grindcorecore
11.16.17 | i was never the biggest fan but he always seemed like a chill dude, rip peep |
Frippertronics
11.16.17 | goddamn |
hal1ax
11.16.17 | where'd you get the information regarding his OD? i couldn't seem to find articles linking any causation |
Vlahka
11.16.17 | @Hal was browsin Hiphopheads and there were a few tweets and messages from his friends at the show. Some articles now are reporting it was fake xans laced with Fentanyl. |
hal1ax
11.16.17 | jesus... fckin awful man. rip |
Frippertronics
11.16.17 | also Lil Tracy can go fuck himself for even trying to clown him right now |
Hawks
11.16.17 | I don't feel any sympathy for this dude (or any of these dudes) at all tbh because all these idiots do is pop xans and drink lean and think it's cool so fuck em. |
hal1ax
11.16.17 | on twitter? @fripp |
Frippertronics
11.16.17 | https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23561605_886220994887904_6975492008349519910_n.jpg?oh=f40a410a453bb794599aaad71460772c&oe=5AAC186A
ye |
CaimanJesus
11.16.17 | you'd be fucking blubbering if some cunt from cradle of filth od'd, if you're just gonna spit on the dudes grave don't comment |
DoofusWainwright
11.16.17 | dude looked so healthy too |
hal1ax
11.16.17 | smh @ the tracy twitter comment |
Hawks
11.16.17 | "you'd be fucking blubbering if some cunt from cradle of filth od'd, if you're just gonna spit on the dudes grave don't comment"
Yeah you're a really big moron. |
Frippertronics
11.16.17 | also his friends were apparently snapchatting the whole thing and didn't notice the dude od'd |
Hawks
11.16.17 | Yeah dude you guys keep talking about "stop glorifying the lean/xan epidemic" and then say "now's not the time." I have a handful of close friends that have overdosed and died on pills and it's sad but these dumbasses know EXACTLY what they're doing.
But yeah you guys kicking it under the rug and have fun with your pity party. |
Dewinged
11.16.17 | I am not a fan of him but it's sad to see someone so young go this way. RIP. |
BlackwaterPork
11.16.17 | @hawks
Yeah they are basically asking for death when doing that sort of shit but it doesn’t take away the fact that people around him must have been hurt. As well as that, he had potential to do something to help everyone. He didn’t deserve to die, and while I’m not personally attached to him or his music, I can’t help but feel shit for such a wasted life and the effects had on those around him. Sad times |
Hawks
11.16.17 | I'm not saying it's not sad, it def is and of course nobody deserves to die. I just don't have any pity because they know they're killing themselves. |
Frippertronics
11.16.17 | fucking yikes
https://twitter.com/zacharyhodson/status/931068935654354949 |
hal1ax
11.16.17 | i mean i see what u mean and why you're angry but drug addiction isn't rly that simple. a lot of long-term addicts don't even enjoy getting high anymore but rather are mired by fear of detox and compulsion and mental disorder. it takes a lot of willpower and discipline and support to get out of some holes man. obviously they're not powerless but i don't think it's as easy as they're doing it for cool points so fuck em yada yada. i know ppl coming off 2-3 years of xanax who had full blown seizures. shit aint easy once u get going like that |
Ovrot
11.16.17 | yikes indeed |
Frippertronics
11.16.17 | so apparently:
he overdosed on xans laced with fentanyl, was left on the bus for four hours then pronounced dead once discovered
dealt a bad, bad card, irregardless of circumstance |
grindcorecore
11.16.17 | that video is disturbing fucking hell |
Deathconscious
11.16.17 | makes me think of some of these kids on sputnik poppin xans and shit. hope they can move past all that before something like this happens. its a shame. |
Hawks
11.16.17 | I completely agree that once you get going you can't stop, but a lot of these kids (not all of course) start doing this shit because they see their favorite rapper doing it and think that's what makes you cool. Then once they get in too deep they can't stop and they die. It's a terrible thing, but nobody told any of them that they had to start in the first place. That's all I'm saying.
I myself had a problem with xanax when my grandfather died and I forgot WHOLE WEEKS at a time. Didn't remember a single thing. I had friends telling me about shit we did or that I did and had absolutely no recollection. That shit isn't a joke and I got off of them before I started doing real damage like this. |
Papa Universe
11.16.17 | Interesting that a lot of the Emo Rappers end up the same way those Emo Rockers did... it's a pattern, lads. |
DoofusWainwright
11.16.17 | Too emotionally pure for this world? |
Papa Universe
11.16.17 | They might be pure, but the amount of narcotics in their blood says otherwise. |
Conmaniac
11.16.17 | fuck... |
unclereich
11.16.17 | Hard rip only 21 drug culture amongst the youth needs to be addressed. overdoses kill more people than guns in america |
Hawks
11.16.17 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
hal1ax
11.16.17 | yea i fully agree. |
BlackwaterPork
11.16.17 | Definitely |
Papa Universe
11.16.17 | Every year people overdose on bullets they inject into themselves from pistols. That's an issue too. |
Hawks
11.16.17 | "In one Instagram post, Åhr proclaimed himself as a "productive junkie" and said "don't do drugs"."
Productive junkie lol this is such a great world to raise children. Glad these are the type of people kids look up to. |
MyShadow
11.16.17 | what did Tracy say? all i can see is a RIP tweet |
hal1ax
11.16.17 | "Is Gus dead? Lmao" |
MyShadow
11.16.17 | whats his handle these days? |
hal1ax
11.16.17 | looks like it's @tracyminajj |
MyShadow
11.16.17 | yeah i thought so hes prolly deleted it |
Keyblade
11.16.17 | "Hard rip only 21 drug culture amongst the youth needs to be addressed. overdoses kill more people than guns in america"
is that true, cuz thats crazy. over 30k ppl die from guns every year...and more die from od's? jeez
RIP to lil peep...what a terrible way to go out. wasnt even a real xan |
unclereich
11.16.17 | Well over 50k my dude. My girl is an alcohol/drug therapist she sees some shit man. Unbelievable amount of youth destroying their lives in the name of fentanyl. So much death so much loss. No one cares tho so nbd |
unclereich
11.16.17 | Every year people overdose on bullets they inject into themselves from pistols. That's an issue too
no one cares about addiction/mental illness like i already addressed |
Papa Universe
11.16.17 | That comment was sarcastic, I think I should address that. |
BlackwaterPork
11.16.17 | Yeah you probably should |
unclereich
11.16.17 | K |
Deathconscious
11.16.17 | Uh oh boys, looks like we have another sowing situation here.
TO THE GALLOWS WITH YOUR ASS. |
Papa Universe
11.16.17 | As a musician, you either die young or live long enough to see yourself become a rapist. |
Futures
11.16.17 | brother of someone i knew od'd on fentanyl. he was 19 or 20. he was such a nice kid. breaks my heart. it's terrifyingly common among this generation. please seek help if you are struggling out there. |
Winesburgohio
11.16.17 | hawks: shut the fuck up eternally about shit you clearly have a limited at best understanding of. ta. |
Hawks
11.16.17 | Yeah you're a moron. [2]
You're probably a junkie yourself so sorry if you're offended by the harsh reality of this whole situation not just with this guy, but with the whole prescription pill/heroin epidemic in general. Limited knowledge? Like I said I've had more than one, more than two, more than three close friends die from overdosing on pills within the last year and a half/2 years so please check your facts. There's a huge difference between not knowing anything and not having any sympathy you stupid fuck. |
osmark86
11.16.17 | over 50k a year is a staggering figure if true. americans really should be addressing this issue. rip lil peep. |
BlackwaterPork
11.16.17 | Drugs are everywhere mate. The other day I was waiting for the bus and this bloke was dancing in the middle of the road off his tits. If someone was speeding or some shit that guy would have been completely wrecked. It’s just stuff like this which should steer people a million miles away from the poison. |
Winesburgohio
11.16.17 | for someone who has has close friends die because of addiction you show a remarkable lack of compassion and also unawareness about what addiction entails. but yeah from what i've read you lack sympathy and knowledge and yet feel comfortable spouting your stupid uninformed shit anyway. eat shit. |
Pajolero
11.16.17 | Dumb little shit |
DoofusWainwright
11.16.17 | How rude
It’s lil shit |
Hawks
11.16.17 | I'm not unaware once again I just have no pity. Who was forcing the xanax down this kid's throat? Probably nobody, it was his choice. As it was the choice of my friends who are now dead. Am I sad about it? Fuck yeah, but they made a choice to do what they did so the consequences have to be dealt with. All of you people in here wanna sweep it under the rug but I won't do that. If that offends you then you can kindly go fuck yourself. |
swipenet
11.16.17 | Rest in peep |
Pajolero
11.16.17 | U right doof, I'm sorry |
ShitsofRain
11.16.17 | what FourthReich said |
Winesburgohio
11.16.17 | "Who was forcing the xanax down this kid's throat?"
honestly if you were as imbecilic as this statement makes it seem i don't think you'd be functionally able to post online (unless u get ur mom / a close friend to do it for you - no judgement!) so i'll bite but you do realise that addictive substances are, by definition, addictive right? and actually when u detox you have to keep taking a consistent amount in a familiar place -- "maintenance using" -- otherwise it can literally kill you because ur body freaks out when it doesn't get what it's used to and basically shuts down. and choice? m8 when ur depressed and a simple pill takes it away and mental health understanding is poor why wouldn't you. there go you but for the grace of god.
so yeah your profound ignorance, stated as comprehensive fact, offends me and i'll fuck myself later but of my own volition. cheers. |
Hawks
11.16.17 | Obviously we have conflicting views on this bud so I'm not gonna keep arguing. It's just sad that so many of these young kids keep dying from this shit and nobody is doing anything about it. More power to you though I guess, y'all keep having your pity party until the next young rapper overdoses and dies then you can move on. |
BlushfulHippocrene
11.16.17 | "Everybody know I numb it with the drugs"
Sad to think these were some of his last lyrics. RIP Peep, upset that we'll never get Pt. 2. I love you all, please get help if you think you may need it. It doesn't mean much, but shoutbox me if you ever feel like you have nowhere else to go. Your life is worth a whole lot more than you'll ever realise. |
swipenet
11.16.17 | Thanks bub, it's nice to have some good vibes |
Winesburgohio
11.16.17 | no i completely agree. 21 is too young. too fucking young. the problem is that a large barrier to breaking a drug cycle is public awareness and stigma, and espousing the kind of rhetoric you're using isn't just incorrect but harmful to people who might be struggling. the difference between 'you have a chemical dependency but shit happens and it can be treated' vs. 'it's your own fault you l0z3r STR8 EDGE' is huge. all i ask is that you consider, if another friend comes to you with addiction problems -- and they will, eventually, because this is life -- take the former approach, not the latter, because you could literally save a life. |
Hawks
11.16.17 | None of my friends ever came to me, or anybody for that matter. Nobody knew until it was too late and that's the scariest part. I mean I obviously didn't know this kid but I'm sure his friends knew that he had a problem and if they didn't try to help him then they weren't his really friends. |
Zig
11.16.17 | So, this's his last video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyKmcQB07YE
Don't do drugs, mkay? |
brainmelter
11.16.17 | didn't give a fuck about his music by this is super disheartening to hear |
DoofusWainwright
11.16.17 | Not heard a peep out of this dude for over 12 hours starting to worry |
luci
11.16.17 | shouldn’t have got “die young” tat’d on his forehead |
onionbubs
11.16.17 | rip lil peep |
BigBlob
11.16.17 | RIPeeps |
Orb
11.16.17 | More air for the rest of us. |
BigBlob
11.16.17 | im more shocked at the fact Shyla Stylez died last week : ( |
swipenet
11.16.17 | Damn, she wasn't a fave of mine but she was also way too young, RIP :/ |
ExecutiveExecuterexe
11.16.17 | 21 is too young |
anarchistfish
11.16.17 | Hard rip he had some tunes |
alienobserver
11.16.17 | this year fucking sucks |
alienobserver
11.16.17 | i was thinking yesterday about how he was probably gonna go young but that was maybe 2-3 years in the future, fucked up |
Nocturtle
11.16.17 | sucks this nigga was litt rip ahrd
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MyShadow
11.16.17 | hawks you're a fucking loser lmao a man lost his god damn life
they found the gal that gave him the shit n knew about it |
CygnusX1
11.16.17 | Why can't we get some rappers to rap about how cool it is to get help for your issues and see a therapist and how lit af it is to volunteer and not OD and die young. There's a drug epidemic and having someone call themselves a "productive junkie" is fucking stupid. |
sixdegrees
11.16.17 | a literal junkie with a rap career might not have the most objective view on that |
hal1ax
11.16.17 | yea some pretty obtuse views itt. addiction is an incredibly complex issue, behaviorally / neurologically. try to understand that, a huge number of people who try opiates / benz don't actually even like them, and a lot of the ones who do like them don't even end up developing dependency to them. feeling that consumed and vulnerable to the feeling a certain substance elicits is largely hereditary. i'm not saying addicts are slaves to their biological propensities but it's really so much more complex than 'they are choosing death over their friends//family so fuck em' type thing. also keep in mind the fact that long-term exposure to substances change much of the neurological wiring in your brain. dopamine pathways become altered, etc etc. to the point where, when the substance is absent your brain is literally unequipped to deal with stressors of the environment. even seemingly immutable qualities like personality get shifted around. but basically your brain conforms to intake of this substance and begins this long and sordid self-manipulative process whereby ppl create illusory reasons to keep using, to keep neglecting the things that used to be important to them. so yea, wines is right tbh, if u don't understand addiction u should really withhold the ignorant and insensitive comments. |
Deathconscious
11.16.17 | nobodys even arguing that he didnt make some dumb decisions or that some of those didnt have a hand in his death. unnecessary comments. |
Slut
11.16.17 | "You're probably a junkie yourself so sorry if you're offended by the harsh reality of this whole situation"
youre retarded |
Winesburgohio
11.17.17 | +1 hal and pjorn, thank you putting it very very well < 3 |
Demon of the Fall
11.17.17 | RIP - didn't know the guy or his music but it's a cruel end for someone so young.
There are some very good points here, I'll echo the above & say hal/pjorn + you Wines have all had constructive, balanced & most importantly, knowledgeable things to say on the subject.
Another thing I'd like to add is the idea that people are thinking clearly when they START taking drugs, I'm not talking about addicts (as that's been covered already)... it's very, very easy to say 'don't start, they know the consequences' etc. Most people don't start with hard drugs, sometimes not even things that are illegal (alcohol) & oftentimes it's to deal with immense difficulties/pain in their lives. Also, a lot of people start young, how many stupid & irresponsible things did you do as a young teen? Yes, the stakes get higher but once you've lost sight of reality & already have that sense of desperation/are part of that mind-set/or inundated into groups of likeminded individuals, it can spiral out of control.
I've had my own experiences & it started with alcohol whilst I was still a school kid, so thought it was something worth saying. Apologies about the formatting, just a stream of consciousness. |
