Native
Wrestling Moves


2.5
average

Review

by joshuatree EMERITUS
January 23rd, 2010 | 49 replies


Release Date: 2010 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Solid, but mostly showcases the band's promise rather than their skill and talent.

What may be unfortunate to a listener of Wrestling Moves, especially considering whether or not you’ve heard their promising EP, is that this debut full-length from these Indiana natives isn’t all that shocking of a statement. Native do skew their post-hardcore stylings with a healthy dose of progressive and math rock influences, but there’s nothing here that you couldn’t find similarly done on a Kidcrash or a These Arms Are Snakes album, among many others. Here, Native choose to be the influenced instead of attempting to be the influencers. But that doesn’t mean that this record isn’t fun as hell to listen to, or that Native isn’t staggeringly talented, and this is why Wrestling Moves never falls into modern post-hardcore’s seemingly endless pool of monotony. This is a band that can run through gaping crescendos, blistering technicality, and numerous paces - key examples being the titular track and “Five Year Payoff” - and do it all with the effortlessness of a band that’s been at it for years. On songs like “Ponyboy” and “Legoland” is where they really shine, however. These tracks are progressive and ambitious, starting and stopping momentum at the turn of a fly, and lasting a few minutes longer than they should - but never becoming uninteresting.

Sure, originality is kept at bay throughout, and the heavy-handedness of “Marco Polo” and “Mason Jars” shows the band’s lack of subtlety, and is also the only time when Native’s inexperience becomes glaring. But these are really, really minor things in my book; no, my main gripe with Wrestling Moves is mostly how banal and vanilla vocalist Bobby Markos sounds. Mind you, he’s not bad, and his vocals never sounds insincere or forced. But they’re terribly forgettable, and they unbalance Native’s sound, all but forcing the listener to focus more on Native’s instrumental side just simply to stay entertained. And, despite how progressive Native can get, that's simply not enough, especially since how much the band particularly derives from obvious influences. Ultimately, ambition can get you a far way - but, as far as Native goes, it's not enough.



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joshuatree
Emeritus
January 23rd 2010


3744 Comments


i swear i'll write a negative review someday, anyways sputnik should be all over this

Kyle
January 23rd 2010


667 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Yeah, I was expecting this to be better after hearing their EP. Still pretty solid, but I never listen to it.

SeaAnemone
January 23rd 2010


21429 Comments


one of my favorite 09ers discovered in 2010.

Prophet178
January 23rd 2010


6397 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Markos said he wanted his vocals to differentiate Native from other post-hardcore bands. I guess they

achieved that goal, but split their would-be fans in half in the process. I don't mind them myself.

joshuatree
Emeritus
January 23rd 2010


3744 Comments


but his vocals are boring and don't differentiate from anything?

Prophet178
January 23rd 2010


6397 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

I think they're fairly unique. I can't really think of another post-hardcore band that has vocals like his.

joshuatree
Emeritus
January 23rd 2010


3744 Comments


i mean i just find them boring. sure they're not exactly like *insert post-hardcore guy here* but they're really nothing special. but to each his own you know

kingsoby1
Emeritus
January 24th 2010


4970 Comments


another record w/ hand on cover

joshuatree
Emeritus
January 24th 2010


3744 Comments


yes they're nothing alike though

Mendross
January 24th 2010


650 Comments


The singer sounds like the guy from Off Minor.

shablaman54
January 25th 2010


288 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

i remember playing a show with these doodz

TRMshadow
January 25th 2010


5119 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Agree with the summary 100%

Tulannical
January 25th 2010


2051 Comments


Same. Good review, Cam.

Lions
January 27th 2010


1015 Comments


The singer sounds like the guy from Off Minor.

sort of. my problem with the vocalist is that every shout or scream or whatever sounds the same. there's little to no variety or dynamic.

ebay
February 5th 2010


501 Comments


this whole post-hardcore thing is just getting so monotonous. so many of these bands just blend together for me now and Native sounds like they would not help my problem at all.

FigNewtns
February 17th 2010


777 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

not really into this at all. maybe another listen...

musicConsumer
February 17th 2010


494 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I hope on there next release we find out that the singer can really sing. Or atleast vary his voice up a bit. Or ditch the vocals all together and rise the instrumentation to an even more uber technical echelon. Or maybe venture into some post-rock territory.

thediamondcanopy
March 12th 2010


521 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I really, really disagree. Especially the part about the vocalist. Good review I guess.

McConkey
June 12th 2010


7 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Some good songs but "What Are You Dylan In My House" is still there top song and i felt all the songs sounded the same :L

dcha
August 31st 2010


990 Comments


His vocals are insanely unique..... FOR ME TO POOP ON.



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