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Old 04-25-2012, 04:48 PM   #33181
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and would cushion the blow when my chelsea supporting friend is smug as balls
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:56 PM   #33182
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the John Terry Rule: John Terry is not allowed to lift or touch the European Cup

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/25/john-terry-champions-league-trophy?CMP=twt_gu
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:04 PM   #33183
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:45 PM   #33184
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Am I right in thinking that Fabregas has never beaten a side with Drogba in it?
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:38 AM   #33185
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not sure but you would be right if you said fabregas is a failed cheating coward who has no loyalty
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Old 04-26-2012, 06:14 AM   #33186
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I believe his loyalty was always to Barcelona, so in reality you could say he is extremely loyal.

Had I been born and raised in Barcelona, big fan of the club, biggest dream to play for it... even if I become a star with another team I would still try as hard as I could to go to Barcelona. Fabregas gave his best the time he was at Arsenal, he got his dream chance and he took it. To not follow your dream (and more money) just for some subjective view of loyalty is ridiculous. Credit to Fabregas for not being Nasri about it.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:27 AM   #33187
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Also didn't he achieve more at Barcelona in his brief stint there than he had in 6 years at Arsenal?
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:55 PM   #33188
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well he has won three trophies at barca, he won two at arsenal, so yes

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I believe his loyalty was always to Barcelona, so in reality you could say he is extremely loyal.

Had I been born and raised in Barcelona, big fan of the club, biggest dream to play for it... even if I become a star with another team I would still try as hard as I could to go to Barcelona. Fabregas gave his best the time he was at Arsenal, he got his dream chance and he took it. To not follow your dream (and more money) just for some subjective view of loyalty is ridiculous. Credit to Fabregas for not being Nasri about it.
man, don't be so sensitive, i was having a laugh
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:45 PM   #33189
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is it a bit too much to watch john terry lift the trophy or do people feel that it would be wrong to reward his behaviour
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:49 PM   #33190
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kind of dulled my desire to see chelsea win the whole thing now that i know john terry will get to lift it
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Old 04-26-2012, 03:07 PM   #33191
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he wouldn't have the balls to go up and collect, would he?
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Old 04-26-2012, 03:25 PM   #33192
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It'd be harsh on whoever is captain on the night.
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Old 04-26-2012, 03:28 PM   #33193
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very harsh but the owner wouldn't mind too much. he has stood by terry through everything including most managers
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:48 PM   #33194
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anyway, how sad is this? i hope its not true

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Old 04-26-2012, 04:55 PM   #33195
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Guardioloa is a petulant little bitch.
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not sure but you would be right if you said fabregas is a failed cheating coward who has no loyalty
u dumb.

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Lampard will lift it, but then he'll probably give it to Terry who'll be standing alongside.
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:57 PM   #33196
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should give it to the drog
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:01 PM   #33197
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dunno about that pep stuff but it reminds me of this which was good for a laff

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Old 04-26-2012, 05:07 PM   #33198
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should give it to the drog
yes

and cech, and cole

and back to lampard at some stage

surprised our australian football oracle hasn't showed up
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:19 PM   #33199
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fair play some real players in that chelsea squad

cept terry
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:20 PM   #33200
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As of right now all points to Guardiola leaning to leave, but it's far from a sure thing. Everyone seems to agree that the decisions will come tomorrow. He might yet add a Copa del Rey to that list of trophies too.

I hope he stays, he is the perfect manager for Barcelona right now. Even if he stays I'm pretty certain it'll be his last year though.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:22 PM   #33201
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he can't leave

what other challenge is there?

none of the young managers have staying power
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:26 PM   #33202
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Rumor has it he'd like Italy next since he played there and has some connections. He did say that if he leaves he'll take a year off so for now there's nothing out there for him.

Anyone catch the Athletic Bilbao game? It was excellent, I hope they win the Europa final. Barcelona vs Bilbao final should be a great match too.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:33 PM   #33203
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would like to see teams like bilbao challenge the madrid and barca duopoly
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Old 04-27-2012, 08:39 AM   #33204
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Vilanova to replace him, some will call it risky but it seems like a good decision to give it to someone who already knows the club inside out and will continue guardiola's philosophy
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:04 PM   #33205
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The club already has a style and strategy of play strongly in place, and won them 13 trophies to this point. It wasn't going to change much no matter who they hired as coach. Unless it is a big game, Barcelona is almost autopilot. It's why all the one-trick comments exist.

Tito has been there for all the Guardiola years, knows everything that goes on inside and out. I think it makes sense, he'll give this team a sense of continuity from Pep. If next year goes badly then I can see a new coach coming in to tinker with the system.

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i love barca, i love the way they make such an art of their type of game. it is wonderful to see

but, the one trick pony has been found out and pep was cute enough to leave

the comment exists because they cannot mix it up, are unwilling to mix it up, and they have paid for it this season with the loss of two crowns (the most important ones) and their manager

if next year goes badly, the team breaks up and someone else becomes dominant
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see, I feel like a lot of the time Pep went with a back 3 was just for the sake of demonstrating barca can play another way
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sure, they can switch it defence wise but that really isn't a strength. and that allows them to put an extra player forward to get involved in the same one trick

maybe i have am looking at it wrong. they tried something different with ibrahimovic a couple of years back and that didn't work. i just think that after 75 minutes against a resolute team in the champions league semi final and you are not breaking them down then you have to be able to change it. i don't see them change anything and whilst the way they play is very effective against lesser teams, when it comes to this stage of the season, the inters, chelseas and madrids are ready for them
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Old 04-28-2012, 10:25 AM   #33209
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Yes but after 3 losses it's easy to say that teams like inters, chelseas and madrids are ready for them, but their style of play has completely destroyed Madrid in the past, I think Madrid have had 2 wins in the last 9 against them?

And as resolute as Inter were against them, Barcelona managed to break them down eventually, I know they still lost the tie but generally they play football so quickly and accurately that other teams can't cope.

Chelsea in the second leg played a brilliant defensive tactic with rows of 6 and 4 or 5 and 5 etc. They kept their discipline and it worked, it's not just Barcelona that would struggle to break them down.

They don't have the players to be able to play a long ball system, and if they tried their most suited forward has been injured for months with a broken leg.

I'm not sure what other style of play they could try. As you said they tried with Ibrahimovic but it didn't work out.

I don't think a bad end to one season is cause to try and change the way they play or to develop a "Plan B" as such, their Plan A has worked against the best and world teams in the world. The last week is still fresh in the mind so it's easy to concentrate on it, but over the years it's worked for them.
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:16 AM   #33210
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2 in 10 games i believe.

Premier League is a mess right now, so many crazy score lines this season.

Arsenal held by stoke
Everton 4-0 Fulham
Swansea 4-4 Wolves
and Wigan...

They beat Newcastle 4-0 after beating Liverpool, Man U, and Arsenal. All after being deep in the hole.
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