[Moseph]

Originally Posted by Xomblies

moseph, you can't really argue with the assumption that someone who likes expensive gear is going to pass and go straight to a multi in, interface. there is a reason to have both no matter how "big" you go... and if you buy quality gear from the beginning, you won't find yourself with a bunch of useless gear down the line, rather, awesome gear that you can still use to aid your production. For example, you could have a co engineer edit guitar tracks while you're tracking bass, you could slave the duet to your main interface as a DI and save some of your other tracks for live channels while still maintaining audio integrity. I could go on but i think you get the idea

That wasn't what I was getting at. I was saying that if you're top concern is quality, you're probably passing on the duet and getting 1-2 channels of top-notch specialty stuff instead. If your top concern is getting something that doesn't cost a whole lot, you're probably also passing on the duet and grabbing something with a smaller price tag.

That's literally it: I just don't get who they're really selling to (other than Convectuoso, apparently).

Originally Posted by Xomblies

and come on the 90's? that's your argument?? i can guarantee that those recordings (whatever they may be) that sound so good eventually went through something nice when they were mixed like an api, neve or ssl console. Another thing... a lot of recordings from the 90's sounded like dogshit on a stick still hot from bitch anus; the ones that sounded rad like RATM, STP, Soundgarden etc were recorded on quality gear...

I'm not talking about any particular ones, actually: I'm just playing the odds. The amount of BlackFace ADATs/Mackie 1604s/Shure SM58's that got sold in the last 20 years is a pretty large number. In amassing my own gear collection, I came across some other home recordists who let me hear some stuff they did, and much of it sounded quite good. I reckon there are more than a few dozen folks within 2 hours driving distance of me that have gotten similar results over the years.

If you want a good idea about "more with less" pick up both of the TapeOp compilation books. The fact of the matter is that just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean it doesn't sound good. The inverse of that is also true.

Originally Posted by Xomblies

i'm not sure what you're trying to argue here but god damnit moseph, stop telling people to get shitty gear

You're drawing conclusions that aren't there. I don't recall ever encouraging anybody to buy "shitty" gear (though your threshold for "shitty" is significantly higher than mine). I do recall saying get what you're comfortable getting because it won't matter too much if you're new. Also that I'm not getting the marketing for Apogee's home recording interfaces. Beyond that, I'm pretty sure you're finding nonexistent subtext.