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mandan 03-25-2013 06:11 PM

Is Dream Theater overrated?
 
How many sputnikers believe Dream Theater is overrated?

Mardy 03-25-2013 07:52 PM

you could probably call them one of the pioneers of the genre
they have some cool tracks
very technically talented musicians

but simply not that interesting after a while

JaySpiral 03-25-2013 08:20 PM

I like Dream Theater, but I do believe they get a bit too much credit.

mandan 03-25-2013 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=JaySpiral;19020406]I like Dream Theater, but I do believe they get a bit too much credit.[/QUOTE]

I'm somewhat along those lines. I dug [i]Images & Words[/i] and [i]Awake[/i], but didn't enjoy other works such as [i]Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence[/i] and [i]Systematic Chaos[/i]. Plus, their riffs just don't do it for me and the keyboards often feel over-the-top. Not to mention that Portnoy's drumming often feels rather average and Petrucci's solos rather devoid of feeling.

Again, that's just my opinion. They have Mangini on drums now, but I could care less.

Mardy 03-25-2013 10:01 PM

heh yeah, portnoy didn't expect that treatment, ka-pow

lukeskywalkertakingadump 03-26-2013 11:11 AM

yeah they fucking suck

HighandDriving 03-26-2013 12:26 PM

Thy our no woe is me.

SugarCoatedSour 03-26-2013 02:07 PM

they all play satan's skin flute with blistering precision

mandan 03-26-2013 09:52 PM

Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks they're overrated.

Det_Nosnip 03-27-2013 02:08 AM

Is the pope Catholic?

Firecracker 03-27-2013 04:11 AM

If the credit is given to their newer stuff: yes.
older stuff: hell no

CK 03-27-2013 06:24 AM

Images and Words is most certainly not. Like it or not, it's one of the most influential prog-metal albums of all time. Scenes From a Movie and their other works, however, are. They barely add any variation from album to album

Mardy 03-27-2013 01:56 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip;19020835]Is the pope Catholic?[/QUOTE]

no, but he shits in the woods, right?

Mardy 03-27-2013 02:10 PM

is the bear catholic?

mandan 03-27-2013 06:40 PM

[QUOTE=ckreticeland;19020861]Images and Words is most certainly not. Like it or not, it's one of the most influential prog-metal albums of all time.[/QUOTE]

It is indeed, but I'd like to mention that Queensryche's first 3 LPs, Watchtower's first 2 and Fates Warning's first 3 (with Ray Alder) all preceded it (though I've only listened to [i]Paralells[/i] from FW; all the others mentioned I've already heard). But yes, I won't deny it was influential. I simply don't consider it the masterpiece many say it is.

mandan 03-27-2013 10:10 PM

Only 11 votes. I expected more...

mandan 03-29-2013 12:59 AM

Still needs more votes, I'm not satisfied.

tempest-- 03-29-2013 01:55 AM

Dream Theater were one of the first metal bands I listened to and really liked, so they have a ton of sentimental value for me. [I]Images and Words[/I] is an undisputed classic of the genre and it's easily my favourite, however I can't help but enjoy their later, more wanky and pretentious stuff as well. I can't answer the poll because it'll be too biased.

Jeffs Carrot 03-29-2013 02:12 AM

I always liked dream theater but it can get cringe worthy when you catch how much they "borrow" from artists. I'm not talking light inspiration, but direct lifting and using it as their own.

Jordan seems like the coolest guy in the band, anything he does I try to keep up with. His open mindedness to work with new instruments and try new things makes him extremely cool.

Det_Nosnip 03-29-2013 04:36 AM

Yeah, I've always respected him.

SugarCoatedSour 03-29-2013 08:07 AM

[QUOTE=dannyboy89;19021171]It is indeed, but I'd like to mention that Queensryche's first 3 LPs, Watchtower's first 2 and Fates Warning's first 3 (with Ray Alder) all preceded it (though I've only listened to [i]Paralells[/i] from FW; all the others mentioned I've already heard). But yes, I won't deny it was influential. I simply don't consider it the masterpiece many say it is.[/QUOTE]

correcto. Here's one of me likeable Fate's Warning songs you may not have heard.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_w9kpBYl0g[/url]

SugarCoatedSour 03-29-2013 08:09 AM

Dream Theater was collapsed even from the get go with them vying for crossover potential. Not to say their first major album wasn't good, its just that it was stretching to be something more accessible and safe from misrepresentation to the listeners who weren't as into core metal bands of the times.

Mardy 03-29-2013 09:51 AM

[QUOTE=Jeffs Carrot;19021976]I always liked dream theater but it can get cringe worthy when you catch how much they "borrow" from artists. I'm not talking light inspiration, but direct lifting and using it as their own.

Jordan seems like the coolest guy in the band, anything he does I try to keep up with. His open mindedness to work with new instruments and try new things makes him extremely cool.[/QUOTE]

jordan labrie? He's the vocalist, right?
They're all very talented for sure, and they deserve a listen if you play an instrument yourself, as to see what also exists and soforth

FluxCapacitor 03-29-2013 11:35 AM

[QUOTE=Nadinus;19022143]I think they're awful.[/QUOTE]

yeah but you probably listen to the xx which is even worse.

mandan 03-29-2013 12:05 PM

[QUOTE=SugarCoatedSour;19022002]correcto. Here's one of me likeable Fate's Warning songs you may not have heard.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_w9kpBYl0g[/url][/QUOTE]

Hearing it right now, good stuff.

Mardy 03-29-2013 12:05 PM

btw, anyone here know Spiral Architect?

mandan 03-29-2013 12:08 PM

[QUOTE=Jeffs Carrot;19021976]I always liked dream theater but it can get cringe worthy when you catch how much they "borrow" from artists. I'm not talking light inspiration, but direct lifting and using it as their own.

Jordan seems like the coolest guy in the band, anything he does I try to keep up with. His open mindedness to work with new instruments and try new things makes him extremely cool.[/QUOTE]

Yes, they definitely lack an original style. Fans may chide me for it, but unlike bands such as Queensryche and Watchtower, they sound too much like their influences.

mandan 03-29-2013 12:08 PM

[QUOTE=Mardy;19022188]btw, anyone here know Spiral Architect?[/QUOTE]

Nope, haven't listened to them.

Mardy 03-29-2013 12:25 PM

prob the most technical music I've ever heard together with spastic ink, it's fun to listen to

spiral architect
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXYp-vjR5Cs[/URL]
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp9qMqQiEj4[/URL]

spastic ink
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WjdpG7e2zg[/URL]

SugarCoatedSour 03-29-2013 03:53 PM

if you like Ron Jarzombek's style listen to Watchtower:Control and Resistance. And he was in another group....oddly enough with Myung(DT bassist) and Sean Malone + Sean Reinhert(the rhythm section of Cynic)


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