[QUOTE=Raayl;17270455]idk why this turned into a REASON IS BETTER THAN EVERYTHING argument i was simply bringing up the fact that reason acoustic instruments are [I]not[/I] synthetic[/QUOTE]

No, they're not. Poor choice of wording on my part. What I meant to say is that sampling and sequencing [I]itself[/I] doesn't do it for me all the time.


[QUOTE=honeydutchautopsy;17270461]This ^^^[/QUOTE]

I have Reason 4.0. And it doesn't do everything I want it to, hell [I]no[/I] sequencing technology does. See my previous posts.

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17270430]I like composing with Reason. Most of the sounds are good, and fit well in a mix with other sounds. Here's a piece I just finished the other day:

[url]http://soundcloud.com/ben-lesser/forget-me-not[/url][/QUOTE]

Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=EADGCF;17270623]

I have Reason 4.0. And it doesn't do everything I want it to, hell [I]no[/I] sequencing technology does. See my previous posts.[/QUOTE]

How about learn to read I wasn't agreeing with sade at all I said "this" to answer his question on why we think he thought reason samples are better than real instruments

[QUOTE=honeydutchautopsy;17270680]How about learn to read I wasn't agreeing with sade at all I said "this" to answer his question on why we think he thought reason samples are better than real instruments[/QUOTE]

You can't say I can't read because you quoted the wrong post How about learn to punctuate

And Reason samples aren't better than real instruments, they're more convenient. I don't think Sade would disagree with me on that.

You can't really say a program like Reason and it's sampled sounds come anywhere near to the real thing.

But when you get into the like 320 gig piano sample packs, and $10,000 string packs, it's so ****ing close that it's ridiculous.

to jcs: When you get into the very high end multi-sampled Piano's, they're samlpling every single bloody key at 20 or so different velocities. And also do things like when you put your elbows on a load of different keys it makes that clunking sound. They even sample pedal noises.

There is a way to get all these nuances out of some instruments, but you're gonna have to take out a second mortgage to be able to afford it.

I wish everyone would stop using Reason as the benchmark of all software samplers :/


and just for everyones information: Real synths > soft-synths.

[QUOTE=honeydutchautopsy;17270509]THE MAN WANTED A ****ING HARPSICHORD

if everyone were a negative nancy like you sade we'd just sit around arguing with eachother all day

which is NOT what we do here it's just not[/QUOTE]

lol dude you get mad [I]way[/I] too easy calm down and make some music

[QUOTE=Joelbassman;17270852]You can't really say a program like Reason and it's sampled sounds come anywhere near to the real thing.

But when you get into the like 320 gig piano sample packs, and $10,000 string packs, it's so ****ing close that it's ridiculous.

to jcs: When you get into the very high end multi-sampled Piano's, they're samlpling every single bloody key at 20 or so different velocities. And also do things like when you put your elbows on a load of different keys it makes that clunking sound. They even sample pedal noises.

There is a way to get all these nuances out of some instruments, but you're gonna have to take out a second mortgage to be able to afford it.

I wish everyone would stop using Reason as the benchmark of all software samplers :/


and just for everyones information: Real synths > soft-synths.[/QUOTE]

joel ftw

new reason patches even have a knob for the amount of FRET BUZZ you want. now thats pro.

i still use bass guitar though on some ebm stuff though cause you cant make chugga chugga in reason but im sure there are sequencers and combinators out there that do it just fine

btw the reason its so easy to get hyped up about synth programs like reason and ableton is because they take away the one major obstacle that stands between most people and making decent audio - the recording process

you really dont need thousands dollars of gear anymore, you can have a grand piano, harpsicord, blazing saw synth and theremin all in one beautiful package. lets people get their music down better plus reason is a great place to doodle and come up with stuff

benefits - easy to use, lets you bypass the serious cash flow problem of recording all the instruments acoustically and traditionally

negatives - saturates us with maybe too much music, pretty much 90% of people still suck anyways

[QUOTE=Raayl;17270955]lol dude you get mad [I]way[/I] too easy calm down and make some music[/QUOTE]

Yeah, really.

[QUOTE=Joelbassman;17270852]
I wish everyone would stop using Reason as the benchmark of all software samplers :/
[/QUOTE]

[I]Seriously[/I]. Like most things in this place, hyped up the most by those who don't understand it. :_?

[QUOTE=Raayl;17270961]
you really dont need thousands dollars of gear anymore, you can have a grand piano, harpsicord, blazing saw synth and theremin all in one beautiful package. lets people get their music down better plus reason is a great place to doodle and come up with stuff

negatives - saturates us with maybe too much music, pretty much 90% of people still suck anyways[/QUOTE]

Well yeah it's convenient, but at least when playing an instrument you [I]have[/I] to know what you're doing to make a decent recording. You put the time in or you get nowhere. Nowadays it's almost too easy to throw together a bunch of samples and call it a song.

ya i agree and real instruments are still very important i mean especially for live performance nothing is worse than one guy with a laptop =/

i dont even like EBM bands who do it solo live

Sade, did you see Up?

nah dude looks awesome though

derick loves the 3d movies cause of all his 3d design classes so he brings me along

In other news, maybe it's high time you all went and watched The Proposition.
More Nick Cave soundtracking a la Assassination of Jesse James, plus really good writin' and story.

[QUOTE=Raayl;17270958]joel ftw

new reason patches even have a knob for the amount of FRET BUZZ you want. now thats pro.

i still use bass guitar though on some ebm stuff though cause you cant make chugga chugga in reason but im sure there are sequencers and combinators out there that do it just fine[/QUOTE]
Why thank you :cool:

To EADGC: LOL totally. Until you really get into sampling and synthesis, i.e. making your own sample banks and creating your own patches on a synth, you never really get past 'dialing up a preset'. And that takes no effort at all, and usually equates to a sound you're not very happy with.

If I could give one tip to someone playing around with synths and samplers is to **** around with the ADSR (Attack, Decay, Sustain, Release) section of the sampler and/or synth. You can make some really effin' cool sounds by setting huge attacks and release. Results in these huge swelling sounds :)

ANYWAY.

Chicken is the most holiest of meats.

[QUOTE=Efrim;17271240]In other news, maybe it's high time you all went and watched The Proposition.
More Nick Cave soundtracking a la Assassination of Jesse James, plus really good writin' and story.[/QUOTE]

Awesome movie. Best Australian film ever? Maybe.

There are only two good ones ever, so it is pretty possible.

Jesse, do you know the band Six Finger Satellite?
How about Karp?

So, at the MMVAs, Cohen (as Bruno) pulled a stunt where he landed on Eminem with his almost bare ***.

In typical Cohen style, Eminem was completely clueless and left the show utterly pissed off with his entire entourage.

Eminem also performed and it was pretty horrendous.

dude

[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/2dr5h0m.jpg[/IMG]

more or less my 1000 pt blood angels army

So is it pronounced "rail"?

Cool army. Coolest bit is I have exactly the same cutting mat around here somewhere.

i might be able to squeeze in a land speeder havnt calculated the point cost yet

so far the list reads

Brother Corbulo
Attack bike with multimelta
Furioso Dreadnought
Baal Predator with twin linked Las+las sponsors
1 tactical squad, split into two combat squads
1st combat squad with flamer led by a veteran sgt with a power fist
2nd combat squad with melta gun led by an assault veteran sgt
1 assault squad with jump packs and power axe
5 death company units (2 free for the two troop choices, 3 at 30 pts each)

my strategy will probably read something similar to this:

ill drop the assault sgt in the tac squad for brother corbulo, and they'll hop into the rhino and push up the center. i'll direct assault with my 5 assault troops and 5 death company via jump pack (nothing can stand up to the death company in assault especially not five of them in a 1000 point game) that way, the rhino will be right behind my assault troops. i'll push about halfway up the map before i disembark my tac squad, and they'll provide cover fire + corbulo can heal my death company

and while all this is going on i'll safely walk my furioso and baal pred right up the map - they should be too busy trying to dodge my death company to care about them till its too late

ill also use the bike to rush early with my jump troops to get some early tank kills. any leftovers hopefully can be easily taken care of by my power fist equipped sgt in the assault phase

oh and i just re-inked all my vehicles, so i havnt highlighted them yet. the death company is also awaiting highlights...dont have the charcoal color i want for it yet.

i really hate how good some people are at painting these damn things btw...i cant bring myself to post on the blood angels forum :-(

post moar

Do you have regular battles?

Hey, Mr. Pickle changed his picture... times are a-changin'

[QUOTE=gaslight;17273348]Do you have regular battles?[/QUOTE]

yea

wow nerds

uh oh jcs doesnt approve this is dire