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fretfriend 10-18-2005 11:17 PM

Bob Dylan
 
He is labled one of the best poets of all time if you have anything more to say plz do. I want to know all about him.

Merridew 10-19-2005 12:36 AM

listen to Hurricane by him, its amazing, not to mention a true story too

JonM 10-19-2005 07:43 AM

Yup. He's good.

Glitterati 10-19-2005 09:06 AM

Uh, fanboy here?

In my opinion, he's tied with The Beatles for greatest songwriter of 20th century. His lyrics are so stunningly real. Everything makes so much sense and is so relevent.

And he's got so many great songs. Mississipi, Tangled Up In Blue, Blowin' In The Wind, It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding), Masters Of War, Bob Dylan's 115th dream, A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall, If Not For You, Hurricane, I Shall Be Released, Gotta Serve Somebody....

He's amazing. He seems so humble, too. Cool guy. One of my biggest role models.

thickasabrick 10-19-2005 01:47 PM

Yeah Bob Dylan is definitely (in mine and many other peoples opinion) the greatest songwriter of all time. I'm listening to him right now actually. If you haven't heard the song The Times They Are A-Changin', I suggest you listen to it. He is amazing.

Gypsy Campervan 10-19-2005 02:01 PM

Anyone what 'No Direction Home?' He seemed really fake.

Broken Arrow 10-19-2005 02:28 PM

Why is that?

thickasabrick 10-19-2005 03:12 PM

Really fake? Bob Dylan?

robo2448 10-19-2005 07:34 PM

If you want some background info on him, I wrote a profile for another site a while ago that might help a little- [url]http://entertainmentforums.greatboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=221[/url]

Reading it again, it's not very good but it should give you some info. His book, Chronicles Vol, 1, and No Direction Home (the DVD) are awesome. And then you get to the music. I'd get Highway 61 first if I was you, even though I prefer Blood on the Tracks. Highway 61 is a great introductory album.

thickasabrick 10-19-2005 08:44 PM

I also suggest Blood on the Tracks for an introductory album.

rockinbass17 10-20-2005 09:08 PM

[QUOTE=EightMilesHigh]
And he's got so many great songs. Mississipi, Tangled Up In Blue, Blowin' In The Wind, [B]It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding), Masters Of War[/B], Bob Dylan's 115th dream, A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall, If Not For You, Hurricane, I Shall Be Released, Gotta Serve Somebody....[/QUOTE]

Those songs give me chills every time I listen to them. They back up the claim that he is the lyrical master.

My favorite part of "No Direction Home" was when you see him taking pictures of the journalists. Quite funny.

Daniel! 10-20-2005 09:18 PM

[QUOTE=rockinbass17]My favorite part of "No Direction Home" was when you see him taking pictures of the journalists. Quite funny.[/QUOTE]

That's actually from another documentary called Don't Look Back, which I recommend to all Bob fans.

Kurtz 10-20-2005 09:26 PM

I'm really starting to get into him, mainly because of No Direction Home.

He's incredible.

I bought Highway 61 Revisited as my introductory album, I can't put my hands down on it. My dad's a huge fan, so I'm gonna ask him for recommendations for Bob too.

Ishy 10-20-2005 09:50 PM

hes so awesome man i enjoy every bit of his music his song "Like a Rolling Stone" is so real so original

novembercocaine 10-20-2005 10:48 PM

he is awesome, he gave the beatles marijuana

Robert Crumb 10-20-2005 11:50 PM

Bob Dylan beat up Batman in hand-to-hand combat.

Walrus Gumboot 10-21-2005 07:49 AM

A few minutes ago I was in a state of hypnosis from Desolation Row


I always took him for granted, but now I see the light

robo2448 10-21-2005 05:00 PM

Anyone in here like Love And Theft? It's from 2001, but it's still an excellent album. I own No Direction Home, I feel like watching it again sometime this weekend.

Ulysses 10-21-2005 05:40 PM

Great lyricist, great ability to tell stories, he influenced the Beatles and they influenced him, he got them into marijuana. They were into Purple Hearts and the like and he said marijuana was better because it was natural. They soon changed their mentality in regards to the drug. John Lennon was stoned when he wound the tapes on backwards and produced the song Rain. Very nice.

Glitterati 10-21-2005 05:43 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]Anyone in here like Love And Theft? It's from 2001, but it's still an excellent album. I own No Direction Home, I feel like watching it again sometime this weekend.[/QUOTE]

Love & Theft is great.

masada 10-21-2005 06:56 PM

Bob Dylan [i]is[/i] God (sorry Med, you're close). The [i]No Direction Home[/i] documentary definately made me respect the man even more, and he truly is a wonderful figure to watch as he performs in concert. I love how he leans sideways towards the microphone with a blank expression on his face, and just everything about him. I'm obsessive now.

Ned 10-22-2005 03:41 AM

[i]Blood on the Tracks[/i] is actually a mediocre Dylan album, certainly no better than the one that immediately preceded it, [i] Planet Waves[/i], and clearly inferior to the one that immediately succeeded it, [i]Desire[/i]. This is what happened: Dylan left for Columbia Records for Asylum Records. In 1974 Dylan embarked on his first concert tour in eight years just as he was about to release his first Asylum album, [i]Planet Waves[/i]. Naturally the tour made a big media splash, cover of Time Magazine, etc. Columbia retaliated by getting the jump on [i]Planet Waves[/i] with a Dylan album called [i]A Fool Such as I[/i] assembled from refuse left in the studio vaults and released without Dylan's consent and in direct competition with [i]Planet Waves[/i]. Time Magazine and pretty much the rest of the media were fooled. They reviewed [i]A Fool Such as I[/i] assuming it to be the real new Dylan album, initially neglecting [i]Planet Waves[/i], a neglect from which it never fully recovered. [i]A Fool Such as I[/i] was simply dreadful, and [i]Blood on the Tracks[/i] seemed in comparison a great relief. It's significant that Dylan never mentions it in [i]Chronicles[/i]. In order to avoid more Columbia retaliation Dylan returned to his old label and Columbia gave his first return release, [i]Blood on the Tracks[/i], a great promotional push--and again the media sheep fell in line.

The greatest Dylan album by far--his masterpiece--is [i]Blonde on Blonde[/i]. An often neglected very good Dylan album is [i]New Morning[/i] (which Dylan does mention, at length, in [i]Chronicles[/i]). [i]Time Out of Mind[/i] is one of his very worst.

robo2448 10-22-2005 07:16 PM

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]well hello opinions how are you today well not so good in fact ned has decided he doesnt want me hed rather have the facts instead :([/QUOTE]

I agree with you that Time Out of Mind is an excellent album. Dylan has released some bad albums, but Time Out of Mind is not one of them. I really love that album, and think it's better than Love And Theft.

Blood on the Tracks is my favorite, but that's just my opinion.

I'd say bad Dylan albums are- Self Portrait, Street Legal, Saved, Shot of Love, Knocked Out Loaded, and Empire Burlesque. He has a few other albums that aren't great, but aren't bad. And then they're some that are rated as bad but I enjoy, like Dylan and the Dead.

Ned 10-23-2005 02:05 AM

[quote=robo39678472]Blood on the Tracks is my favorite, but that's just my opinion.[/quote] If you were the only one saying this and the others saying it were not obviously saying it for the reasons I've outlined above, I would find it much easier to believe you. I'm inclined to believe, rather, that you heard or read that it's [i]supposed[/i] to be your favorite.

[quote]I'd say bad Dylan albums are- Self Portrait, Street Legal, Saved, Shot of Love...Knocked Out Loaded[/quote] [i]Self Portrait[/i] is [i]intentionally[/i] bad, and then we have the "born again" phase. I'll give you [i]Street Legal[/i], although it has one song approximately equal to any song on [i]Blood on the Tracks[/i] (which, by the bye, is probably a record for worst name for a record).

Ned 10-23-2005 02:10 AM

[quote=robo2343678]I agree with you that Time Out of Mind is an excellent album.[/quote]And [i]Time Out of Mind[/i] should win an award for "most gratuitous abuse of echo". None of the "musicians" seem to have the vaguest notion where [i]one[/i] is. Another big promotional push for the sheep.

Bartender 10-23-2005 02:42 AM

I like [i]The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan[/i] the most so far, actually.

Ulysses 10-23-2005 02:55 AM

I quite like Blood on the Tracks, Highway 61 Revisited is solid but in my opinion maybe a touch overated. The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan is a great album also. I've got Street Legal on vinyl, can't say I'm a huge fan although "Changing of the Guards" is alright.

thickasabrick 10-23-2005 05:36 PM

My Top 6 Dylan albums in any sort of order:

Blood on the Tracks
Blonde on Blonde
Bringin' It All Back Home
Highway 61 Revisted
The Freewheelin Bob Dylan.
The Time's They Are A-Changin'

edit- Now that I look at this, I put it in quasi-alphabetical order without even noticing.

robo2448 10-23-2005 06:28 PM

[QUOTE=Ned]If you were the only one saying this and the others saying it were not obviously saying it for the reasons I've outlined above, I would find it much easier to believe you. I'm inclined to believe, rather, that you heard or read that it's [i]supposed[/i] to be your favorite.

[i]Self Portrait[/i] is [i]intentionally[/i] bad, and then we have the "born again" phase. I'll give you [i]Street Legal[/i], although it has one song approximately equal to any song on [i]Blood on the Tracks[/i] (which, by the bye, is probably a record for worst name for a record).[/QUOTE]

Well I own at least 19 Dylan albums and I've heard pretty much album he's ever recorded, so yeah, I think you're wrong when you say that I've never heard it. That's a pretty dumb assumption to make. I know Self Portrait was intentionally bad, but that doesn't excuse it from being a bad album. He just made it to get the media and fans off of his back. And the "Christian" albums are definitely not purposely bad. It's just a different sound for him that I don't really enjoy.

I don't really care what your opinion is about Blood on the Tracks, I'm just saying it's my favorite Dylan album. It's only an opinion Jeez. And stop trying to shove your opinion down my throat.

Kurtz 10-24-2005 11:26 PM

Okay, so I love Highway 61. Where should I go now? Further into his less folk stuff like Blood on the Tracks, or his more traditional sound such as Bringing it all Back Home and The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan?

Glitterati 10-25-2005 09:23 AM

[QUOTE=Kurtz]Okay, so I love Highway 61. Where should I go now? Further into his less folk stuff like Blood on the Tracks, or his more traditional sound such as Bringing it all Back Home and The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan?[/QUOTE]

If you like Highway, check out Blood On The Tracks, and maybe Blonde On Blonde.

robo2448 10-25-2005 01:53 PM

[QUOTE=Kurtz]Okay, so I love Highway 61. Where should I go now? Further into his less folk stuff like Blood on the Tracks, or his more traditional sound such as Bringing it all Back Home and The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan?[/QUOTE]

Blonde On Blonde is the album most similar to Highway 61. Bringing It All BAck Home is half acoustic, half electric, so it's a good way to get into his acoustic stuff. Both albums are brilliant, I'd just buy whichever is cheaper. As I already said, Blood on the Tracks is my personal favorite, but those 2 albums along with Highway 61 are probably easier for somebody new to Dylan to get into.

Ned 10-25-2005 05:44 PM

[quote=robo385746]Well I own at least 19 Dylan albums and I've heard pretty much album he's ever recorded, so yeah, I think you're wrong when you say that I've never heard it. That's a pretty dumb assumption to make. [/quote]

Come again? I never asserted that you "never heard" [i]Blood on the Tracks[/i]. I said, rather, that I'm inclined to believe that you (as representative of any random person who makes the same claim, considering I know you not at all) heard or read that this record is [i]supposed[/i] to be your favorite, and that this is why you say it's your favorite. I may be wrong in your particular case; you may be the odd exception, but for any given person who makes this claim, the odds are greatly in my favor.

Ned 10-25-2005 05:47 PM

[QUOTE=Kurtz]Okay, so I love Highway 61. Where should I go now? Further into his less folk stuff like Blood on the Tracks, or his more traditional sound such as Bringing it all Back Home and The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan?[/QUOTE]

[i]Blonde on Blonde[/i] BUILDS on Highway 61 and [i]Bringing it All Back Home[/i]. It's the CULMINATION of the potential intimated in these earlier records. It's Dylan's masterpiece.

Alive 10-25-2005 07:04 PM

[QUOTE=Ned]Come again? I never asserted that you "never heard" [i]Blood on the Tracks[/i]. I said, rather, that I'm inclined to believe that you (as representative of any random person who makes the same claim, considering I know you not at all) heard or read that this record is [i]supposed[/i] to be your favorite, and that this is why you say it's your favorite. I may be wrong in your particular case; you may be the odd exception, but for any given person who makes this claim, the odds are greatly in my favor.[/QUOTE]

So, in conclusion, you think that most people whos favourite Dylan album is Blood on the Tracks are lying?

robo2448 10-25-2005 07:30 PM

[QUOTE=Alive]So, in conclusion, you think that most people whos favourite Dylan album is Blood on the Tracks are lying?[/QUOTE]

That's what it sounds like to me:confused:

I misinterpreted what he was saying before so I guess I could be misinterpreting it again. And I don't think Blood on the Tracks is his most popular album. I think Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, and Blonde On Blonde are all more critically acclaimed. Blood on the Tracks gets a lot of praise too, but just because it gets praised doesn't mean it can't be somebody's favorite albums. I don't really care how much praise an album gets, and I don't let that affect how I like the album. I like an album just because everyone else likes it, and don't like an album just because people overlook it. I judge albums strictly on how I view the quality, and popularity or critical acclaim has nothing to do with my opinions.

CantBuyAThrill 10-28-2005 12:06 AM

[QUOTE]Okay, so I love Highway 61. Where should I go now? Further into his less folk stuff like Blood on the Tracks, or his more traditional sound such as Bringing it all Back Home and The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan?[/QUOTE]

If you like Highway 61, go with Bringing It All Back Home and Blonde on Blonde. They were all recorded within about a year of each other, and have a similar feel, yet a distinctly different... uniqueness (I don't know how to describe it) that makes them all really good in their own ways. Also, check out Blood on the Tracks. Alot of Dylan fans love that album, and it's considered to be one of his best. I still haven't "gotten" it yet, I guess, it's not as good for me as the three above. I prefer his earlier folk stuff, like Freewheelin' and Times They Are A-Changin' to Blood on the Tracks, and then the Electric Folk Rock era with Blonde on Blonde, Highway 61, and BIABH to that.

Ned 10-28-2005 03:12 AM

[QUOTE=Alive]So, in conclusion, you think that most people whos favourite Dylan album is Blood on the Tracks are lying?[/QUOTE]

No. They let others dictate to them. They have no taste of their own. They have no critical judgement of their own. They think favorites have to do with fashion. That's not "lying".

Ned 10-28-2005 03:17 AM

[QUOTE=CantBuyAThrill]Also, check out Blood on the Tracks. A lot of Dylan fans love that album, and it's considered to be one of his best. [/quote]

And I've already explained the misapprehension.

[quote] I still haven't "gotten" it yet, I guess, it's not as good for me as the three above.[/quote] You [i]have[/i] got it. It's "not as good for you" because it's not as good [i]period[/i] (although, like [i]Planet Waves[/i] it's perfectly okay), because you're listening with your own ears and evaluating with your own mind.

Tomahawk 10-28-2005 05:50 AM

You're quite the douche, sir.

Anyway, my favourite Dylan album is [I]Blood on the Track[/I]s, because apparently I'm a mindless puppet of the evil media, with their relentless BOTT agenda.


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