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-Superman- 10-18-2005 09:55 AM

Post Hardcore vs. Hardcore
 
I'd like to start out with, what is the difference between the two? And second which do you think is better?

cuts_like_drugs 10-18-2005 11:08 AM

There are quite a few threads giving examples. Just check them out.

I am more of a fan of Post Hardcore myself, its more progressive, has more room for creativity, and more often than not is more melodic.
I love Hardcore too mind.

k1ckthecat 10-18-2005 02:36 PM

PxH baby

Berserker! 10-18-2005 02:37 PM

Post-Hardcore can be great but can also be dead boring. It lacks energy.

skankin'sophr 10-18-2005 03:30 PM

what is considered post-hardcore and what's considered hardcore? i've heard so many bands called post-hardcore that i dont know who actually is.

Wow 10-18-2005 03:48 PM

Listen to Trophy Scars for post-hardcore. <3 them.

A_Perfect_Sonnet 10-18-2005 03:57 PM

Then listen to Bury Your [color=white]Fu[/color]ckin' Dead for some hardcore two-steppin'.

Let's Chop Cats! 10-18-2005 04:05 PM

Joke right?

A_Perfect_Sonnet 10-18-2005 04:13 PM

Yeah.

cbmartinez 10-18-2005 04:22 PM

I need a definition of post-hardcore. I don't understand how Hopesfall, Trophy Scars, Fugazi and Quicksand can be put in the same category.

bottlerocket 10-18-2005 05:00 PM

Random question: what is He Is Legend? Post hardcore? I sorta think so but I'm not too sure what to call them.

Trophy Scars = <3

:thumb:

-Gav

Billy 10-18-2005 05:03 PM

Massive amount of threads on this topic. It's getting ridiculous.

I never really got into post-hardcore, but I might check out Trophy Scars and Fugazi if I ever have the time.

40 oz 2 freedom 10-18-2005 05:04 PM

Quicksand

whiteminority 10-18-2005 05:47 PM

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Random question: what is He Is Legend? Post hardcore? I sorta think so but I'm not too sure what to call them.

Trophy Scars = <3

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]
id call them metalcore with a lot melody that is very common these days... generic.

NewKindofArmy03 10-18-2005 05:53 PM

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]Quicksand[/QUOTE]
Best band in the genre.

SunnyDayRealEstateAM 10-18-2005 06:10 PM

There was a Post-Hardcore thread not to long ago. I like Post-Hardcore better than Hardcore. My favorite Post-Hardcore bands are Glassjaw, Hopesfall, Trophy Scars, and Thursday

bottlerocket 10-18-2005 06:40 PM

[QUOTE=whiteminority]id call them metalcore with a lot melody that is very common these days... generic.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. :thumb:

Yeah, but I still think they can be pretty cool. Some of their songs are just plain boring, but some like The Seduction are pretty cool.

:thumb:

-Gav

Local_Skater 10-19-2005 10:18 AM

[QUOTE=A_Perfect_Sonnet]Then listen to Bury Your [color=white]Fu[/color]ckin' Dead for some hardcore two-steppin'.[/QUOTE]

BYD = mXc

A_Perfect_Sonnet 10-19-2005 10:25 AM

[QUOTE=Local_Skater]BYD = mXc[/QUOTE]

You're just jealous I made a funny, Ethan.

SSSnake... 10-19-2005 11:22 AM

Post Hardcore has more diversity in it, I guess ppl can make their own mind up if that's good or bad.

Fugazi is incredible.

whiteminority 10-19-2005 02:05 PM

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Thanks. :thumb:

Yeah, but I still think they can be pretty cool. Some of their songs are just plain boring, but some like The Seduction are pretty cool.

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]
yeah i like that song too.

-Superman- 10-19-2005 04:55 PM

So all of you are saying theres no definition of "post-hardcore" or "hardcore" its just what the band decides?

Wow 10-19-2005 05:03 PM

There's a definiton. Basically it's bands who took the fundamentals of hardcore and put their own little twist to it to differentiate it enough to not be straight up hardcore.


Like I said, listen to Trophy Scars. They have some very noticable emo influences, but they have their own style.

Anxious 10-19-2005 05:05 PM

I like Post-Hardcore better, but both are good.

Sam 10-19-2005 05:06 PM

Surely you jest?

bottlerocket 10-19-2005 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=Wow]There's a definiton. Basically it's bands who took the fundamentals of hardcore and put their own little twist to it to differentiate it enough to not be straight up hardcore.


Like I said, listen to Trophy Scars. They have some very noticable emo influences, but they have their own style.[/QUOTE]

Exactly...it's like progressive rock, sort of...it's still "rock" but the group put their own spin on things.

:thumb:

-Gav

SGlove 10-19-2005 08:35 PM

The reason all these different bands can be put into Post-Hardcore is that they each took different elements of Hardcore and made it their own.

Neoteric 10-20-2005 07:36 AM

Am I strange to love hardcore but not post-hardcore even the minor differences?

Wow 10-20-2005 12:51 PM

No, not really.

Neoteric 10-20-2005 12:55 PM

Phew...thought I was strange there.

cobert 10-20-2005 01:13 PM

Its wierd, i like barely any hardcore, but most post-hardcore is easy for me to get into and like. Glassjaw, Thursday, and At The Drive-In are some of my favorite bands, and im trying to find stuff from quicksand and texas is the reason in the record stores around here.

Deranged_Drummer15 10-20-2005 04:53 PM

[url]http://www.purevolume.com/acommonexcuse[/url]

Hey, it says that they're post-hardcore, but I listened to some of those bands you guys listed, and they don't sound like them. I think they sound kind of similar, but not close enough to be considered same genre. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. I just want to hear what you guys have to say.

Anxious 10-20-2005 04:58 PM

[QUOTE=Sam]Surely you jest?[/QUOTE]
nope.

A_Perfect_Sonnet 10-20-2005 05:17 PM

[QUOTE=Deranged_Drummer15][url]http://www.purevolume.com/acommonexcuse[/url]

Hey, it says that they're post-hardcore, but I listened to some of those bands you guys listed, and they don't sound like them. I think they sound kind of similar, but not close enough to be considered same genre. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. I just want to hear what you guys have to say.[/QUOTE]

The main reason is that they suck.

cobert 10-20-2005 06:31 PM

[QUOTE=A_Perfect_Sonnet]The main reason is that they suck.[/QUOTE]

I find this to be true.

But to answer his question: As said before, post-hardcore is hardcore with the bands own personal style attached , so you're going to get alot of bands that sound different.

EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN 10-20-2005 06:44 PM

Post hardcore for the most part.

cbmartinez 10-20-2005 07:13 PM

It doesn't make sense that Glassjaw, Fugazi and Quicksand can all be called post-hardcore. THE SYSTEM IS BREAKING DOWN.

fearb4 11-09-2005 04:20 PM

I prefer post-hardcore.


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