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Riva 03-01-2005 08:21 PM

DIY: Good Threads In R&M
 
[b]DIY: Good Threads In R&M [/b]

Ok, there have been an influx of stupid threads in R&M. A lot of these new posters seem to think that one thread can gain them instant popularity/fame on these forums. This is true and false. Certain users in the past have gained notoriety for extremely stupid threads, but they were flamed into oblivion during this time as well. An equal number just don’t think before hitting the new thread button. Although the majority of the people I’m trying to reach won’t read this, if you are a new user, and want to settle down into the best forum on MX, then read on.

So, you have just completed your requisite 24 hours and are itching to post a new thread. Here is a checklist to go through first:

1. Have I checked to see if this thread breaks one of the [url=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224003]rules[/url]?
This one is pretty self-explanatory. These rules are common sense, but if you want to double-check, feel free to do so.

2. Have I seen a similar thread on this recently? Hopefully, you have hung around enough to know what the gist of the first two pages of threads are.

[b]EDIT:[/b]Also, now the search function works again, there is no excuse not to use it. It is fairly simple to use, and is a powerful tool if you want to check information, or check whether your thread has been done before. Remember, doubling up on threads encourages the mods and the regulars to flame your arse to hell.
This also applies to [url=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5023976&postcount=3]official threads[/url].

[quote=Quick Tip]
[b]Using The Search Function[/b]
The search function is a powerful tool, when used correctly. Look at the top tool bar of this page. You should see a button called search. Click on it to lower a drop-down menu, which has two options. The first is a textbox called Search. This is a basic search of a keyword (which must be a string of more than 4 letters) across all the forums in MX.

The next option is for an advanced search. Clicking this takes you to the search page, which allows you to do some advanced searching. Here, you can search for threads, ranking by date/number of posts etc, you can search for usernames, or you can do the same old keyword search.

You can also select the individual forums you wish to search. Each of these textboxes work with each other, so by typing in Threads in the keyword search, HeavyRiva in the username search, and R&M in the individual forum search, you should get a few results including this thread.

You know it makes sense.

[b][size=4]UPDATE: 24/8/05[/size][/b]
I've noticed a lot of people have difficulty finding things using the search function. Basically, the search function will not find words of 5 characters or less. So, when searching for System of a Down, you may easily be overwhelmed by the results with System in them. So, why not search for "System Mesmerise" etc. Same applies for searching for the Who. Instead of "The Who", which will return 0 results, go for "Townshend Windmill" in R&M, or "Daltrey Entwistle".

In summary, there is no excuse for not finding the right thread, with a little patience. Just broaden or specify your search, depending on whether you get too many or too few hits back.
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3. So, now you are ready to start your thread. Click on the new thread button, and you are faced with the daunting Create Thread screen. All your tools and tags are at the top, you have the text box in the middle and other functions below. Here is the tough part. You have to make sure your thread is as concise as possible, yet it also has to be informative and interesting. Too many people just write one line, “Zak wyld is awesome wut do u fink lolz”. This kind of thread irritates everyone to no end.

[quote=Quick Tip]
Always use proper English, or as close to it as you want. Unless you don’t want people to take it seriously, don’t express your opinion using |337 5|D34|< [/quote]

Try to aim for at least a paragraph (3-4 lines). Introduce your thread. State your opinion. Offer some evidence. Conclude. Easy, no?

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[b]Example[/b]: Many black metal bands use poor quality recording, or deliberately distort the sound, to make a more “grim” song. I think they sound a lot better when they use proper recording techniques in a real studio. For example, compare Emperor’s Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk with Melechesh – Djinn. Any thoughts on this, or samples of other good quality black metal songs?
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See? Simple and effective.

4. Reply only when you need to. Don’t bump your post, don’t spam up your thread. If you don’t see anyone posting, just leave it overnight. Often peak times occur when you aren’t at the computer. If you have something to add, a bump is sometimes acceptable, but it better be a well-written thread. If no one posts in your thread after a days, chances are it wasn’t interesting, well-written, cosmically aligned enough. :p

[quote=Quick Tip]
If recommending songs, try to make some samples available for download. Either from the bands official site/fan sites, from yousendit.com or offer to transfer it using gmail, soulseek or limewire, etc.

At least make sure that you correctly describe the songs and their titles. If you really want to talk about this band, you’ll put the effort in to show off their stuff. [/quote]

There you have it. Follow these 4 steps, and you should have a successful thread in no time. Good luck, and enjoy these forums.

Jom 03-01-2005 08:22 PM

:applause for the Yogi:

SonorKen 03-01-2005 08:23 PM

Excellent post, very well stated!

Permanent Solution 03-01-2005 08:23 PM

Too much reading, but I make good threads as it is...
>_> <_<

Iron Man 03-01-2005 08:26 PM

Good work, I have been seeing alot of dumb threads around lately.

Distant Echoes 03-01-2005 08:28 PM

This shouldve been posted several months ago. Good stuff, but too much reading. Anybody it should affect probably wont read it though, considering they just click buttons and spam away :( oh well. rep +

Pretty much the only threads that bother me are the ***OFFICIAL*** ones and the ones that are like "have you ever heard of em". I know its good to keep an organized conversation for all fans of the bands, and why people might want to know if others know of a certain band...but i dont know. THeres just too many of em.

I rarely make threads though, on a count nobody really notices me here anyway

Kage 03-01-2005 08:33 PM

I have noticed a great surge of threads that are being closed or just crappy threads lately. Nice job :thumb:

Apocalyptic Raids 03-01-2005 08:34 PM

maybe this should be stickied?

Iron Man 03-01-2005 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=Vio-lence]maybe this should be stickied?[/QUOTE]

It might be helpful, but there's too may stickies as it is...

Kage 03-01-2005 08:38 PM

While we're on the subject of stickies, we need a new Featured artist!

Riva 03-01-2005 08:50 PM

Johnny's posting a new artist soon, and I think it is funny that every post in this thread has been by a regular, yet the threads target audience are yet to be seen. :)

Joe 03-01-2005 08:54 PM

finally. will this be stickied?! and the real thing is, now will people actually read this?

PIGS(1 different one) 03-01-2005 08:57 PM

I sometimes make weak threads. :(

Iron Man 03-01-2005 08:57 PM

[QUOTE=gocaps99]finally. will this be stickied?! and the real thing is, now will people actually read this?[/QUOTE]

Nubbies don't like to read things longer than 5 lines. Duh :p

I think being new is synonymous with having some sort of built in ADD

Kage 03-01-2005 08:57 PM

[QUOTE=gocaps99]finally. will this be stickied?! and the real thing is, now will people actually read this?[/QUOTE]

Well, considering Riva's comment ( :lol: ) that's questionable.

lunch998 03-01-2005 08:59 PM

Lucky for me I never have to make threads and deal with all this pressure.

I just get all my posts in the Community/CR thread. (A.k.a the post count++ quickly threads).

SonorKen 03-01-2005 09:13 PM

I went ahead and stickied this for a few days. I just made a thread in the mod forum for the R&M mods to crack down on people. We have a ton of crap threads and people spamming up threads. Well all work together and make it look killer again in a week or so!

Riva 03-01-2005 09:17 PM

Cool. Thanks SFK.

rising_fury 03-01-2005 11:06 PM

[URL=http://www.trials-shack.co.uk/posting.html]Here[/URL] is also a good place for newbies to learn about posting.

thickasabrick 03-01-2005 11:07 PM

Oh at first I thought it said "Good Deeds In R&M." I got all excited because I thought we were having a contest to see who could perform the most good deeds.

I'm just as happy with this thread, we need to lay down some extra guidlines and hopefully new members (or old ones) read this.

DeusExMachina 03-01-2005 11:58 PM

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to HeavyRiva again.

**** rep rules... Well done!

Freezing Moon 03-02-2005 12:17 AM

This is good. Hopefully it gets read, and used. Rep +.

Paranoidd 03-02-2005 12:33 AM

I think I speak for all the regulars who want to see this place get productive and informative again when I say good job.

br3ad_man 03-02-2005 02:13 AM

[QUOTE=PIGS(1 different one)]I sometimes make weak threads. :([/QUOTE]

Me too :upset:

I don't think many metalheads liked my black metal thread :(

opeth_oasis 03-02-2005 04:32 AM

well done riva, rep++

Iai 03-02-2005 06:02 AM

Riva for mod.

I'm serious.

RideTheSpiral 03-02-2005 06:13 AM

I didn't even see this. I doubt the n00bs will.


Oh well it's the thought that counts.

Josh 03-02-2005 06:49 AM

good job riva, but i dont think many n00bs will read it. at least i know when i can flame them now.

munky_magik 03-02-2005 09:02 AM

[QUOTE=Iai]Riva for mod.

I'm serious.[/QUOTE]
Second'd

IAJP 03-02-2005 09:40 AM

Well done.
And on the subject of Featured Artists, I think it's pretty much in the bag, Johnny is doing one, he won't reveal who it is, (Allthough I have a pretty big idea who it is anyway:p) and I think I might be doing one after him.
:thumb:

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 03-02-2005 11:07 AM

Good job Riva as always! :)

Shred Danson 03-02-2005 11:22 AM

Beautiful guide, man. I would rep you, but this account is worth nothing. There are too many kids who make threads saying "I think ___ is very awesome and is the best band in the world!" but don't say anything else to back it up. Intelligent discussion and conversation skills should be the key to "success" in these Forums.

Stevie 03-02-2005 01:54 PM

Very good. However, n00bs ready to say "omg slipknot is teh pwn" arn't ready to read that beforehand..."the eternal forum problem".

Rep -+-+-+-+-+-

Shred Danson 03-02-2005 01:58 PM

They can't read anyway, but it's still a very good guide.

RiceMonster 03-02-2005 02:40 PM

Good job Riva, rep++.

Let's hope this cuts down on the stupid threads in R&M.

apocalypse13 03-02-2005 02:42 PM

[QUOTE=gocaps99]finally. will this be stickied?! and the real thing is, now will people actually read this?[/QUOTE]
What is "Stickied?"
Isn't it where it stays at the top of the forum for a little while?

Shred Danson 03-02-2005 02:44 PM

[QUOTE=apocalypse13]What is "Stickied?"
Isn't it where it stays at the top of the forum for a little while?[/QUOTE]

Good job, you're catching on.

Thor 03-02-2005 04:47 PM

Well said. Hopefully there wont be as many stupid threads now.

Riva 03-03-2005 01:56 AM

I suppose if I had called this thread "Maynard sux" more noobs would have read it... :)

Josh 03-03-2005 02:29 AM

that could be very true........:lol:


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