Rock and Metal's Black Sabbath Thread
 

So i was looking around at all these "official threads" and noticed someone, no Black Sabbath thread?? I think out of all these bands these guys really need a main thread. They are one of the best rock bands ever. You can discuss anything Black Sabbath in here, but do not spam and flame.

Tony Iommi was the only guitarist in Black Sabbath, and Randy Rhoads had nothing to do with it. Therefore, do not say something like this: [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6836385&postcount=3155[/url]

Here's a very detailed Black Sabbath recommendation post originally made by Lord Brummington.

Ok, seeing as we get alot of people asking in here what albums/songs are good as stepping-stones to the world of Black Sabbath, I figured I'd make this post then get you guys to link it whenever someone makes a post along the lines of:

'' 'sup you funky Sabbath d00dz, whats a good album to get by Black Sabbath?''

So...here we go.

Albums - Ozzy Years

I'm going to keep my opinions out of this part of the thread

Most of the guys in here have said that Black Sabbath and Paranoid are the best albums to get first, to be honest you'd be best buying them in order.

An album to avoid from the Ozzy years is Live at Last, its a crappy bootlegg and you'd be better off buying Past Lives, or Re-union. Also if possibly, try not to buy the 1996 Castle Remasters of the albums, the quality on them is poor, worse than my vinyl copies.

Dio Years

With only a choice of 4 albums, its not hard picking which one to buy. They're all as good as each other, but I'd highly recommend Live Evil as a first purchase from the Dio years, then the rest (Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules and Dehumanizer) in that order.

Tony Martin Years

I've only heard the albums Headless Cross and TYR from the Tony Martin years, he also featured on The Eternal Idol, Cross Purposes, Forbidden and Cross Purposes Live .

I've heard snippets of Cross Purposes Live, I'd recommend it if you're after a live album thats not got Ozzy on it.

From this era I'd highly recommend TYR

The Rest

Born Again

From what I've heard, this album only really appeals to the hardcore Sabbath fans, and fans of anything that contains Ian Gillan. The songs that I've heard are good, but a bit of a let-down from the Dio years.

7th Star

This is actually a Tony Iommi solo album under the Black Sabbath banner, its a bit hit and miss in places, but worthy of being in your collection.

Compilations/Best Of's

This is simple, if you want a good compilation album, buy The Best of Black Sabbath, it gives you alot of Ozzy songs, along with a few Dio and Ian Gillan songs I think.

If you're an Ozzy pureist, I'd recommend We Sold Our Soul For Rock n Roll, although it only covers upto the Sabotage album.

Live Albums

The best live album is probably Re-Union, with Live Evil, Past Lives, Cross Purposes Live and Live at Last coming behind, in that order.

Now then, the moment you've all been waiting for, this is my list for which order to buy the albums in (the ones that I have):

Volume 4
Black Sabbath
Never Say Die!
Live Evil
Heaven and Hell
Master of Reality
Sabotage
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Technical Ecstasy
Headless Cross
TYR
Mob Rules
Dehumanizer
Paranoid

Songs

If you're cheap and lazy, here's a list of songs to download to give you some inspiration for which album to buy: (not in order)

Tomorrow's Dream (Volume 4, Ozzy)
Supernaut (Volume 4, Ozzy)
Neon Knights (Heaven and Hell, Dio)
The Law Maker (TYR, Tony Martin)
Black Sabbath (Black Sabbath, Ozzy)
Iron Man (Paranoid, Ozzy)
The Sign of the Southern Cross (Mob Rules, Dio)
TV Crimes (Dehumanizer, Dio)
Air Dance (Never Say Die!, Ozzy)
Gypsy (Technical Ecstasy, Ozzy)
Headless Cross (Headless Cross, Tony Martin)
Jerusalem (TYR, Tony Martin)
Trashed (Born Again, Ian Gillan)
7th Star (7th Star, Glen Hughes [I think, my memory is hazey at the moment] )
Megalomania (Sabotage, Ozzy)
Sabbra Cadabra (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Ozzy)
The Warning (Black Sabbath, Ozzy)
Hand of Doom (Paranoid, Ozzy)
After Forever (Master of Reality, Ozzy)

Yeh...I could go on for awhile recommending songs.

Well, I hope this post has been usefull for some of you, any questions feel free to ask them, and any of the regulars, feel free to add songs to the song list etc...

-Brum

I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti

they do a little bit, but not too much

I'm surprised there isn't a Black Sabbath thread already, but i'm glad someone finally got around to making one :thumb:

Sabbath is awesome. My favorite Sabbath song would have to be War Pigs or Paranoid.

I would also say Iron Man, but that would give away my secret that the only Black Sabbath album I've heard is Paranoid. :lol:

yeah, i've only listnened to paranoid, plus a couple of other songs that get played on the radio. what are some other good songs/albums?

I have 5 of their Albums. I probably like their S/T one best though.

My favourite song is probably The Wizard

There's no Official Black Sabbath thread for the exact reason this one was started...Official threads are created to keep the number of threads about a band down, and since Black Sabbath doesn't have too many, there's no official thread for it. Or, at least, that's what I gather from it.

[QUOTE=starappletheory]I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti[/QUOTE]

Oh, you're crazy...But anyways some great songs by Sabbath: War Pigs, NIB, Fairies Wear Boots, Paranoid, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Iron Man.

Great Ozzy Songs: Crazy Train, Over the Mountain, No more Tears, Shot in the Dark, Gets Me Through.

Good Stuff, I think I should get into them more. Any album suggestions besides Paranoid?


War Pigs and Paranoid for me too.

i really like symptom of the universe, its a great song, show how black sabbath really liked to go from a metal sound to acustical very smoothly...Black sabbath is definatly on of my favortie bands.

[QUOTE=King David]Good Stuff, I think I should get into them more. Any album suggestions besides Paranoid?


War Pigs and Paranoid for me too.[/QUOTE]


Their Self Titled album alog with Masters Of Reality will get you started. :thumb:

[QUOTE=Livewired]Their Self Titled album alog with Masters Of Reality will get you started. :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Sounds good, I will have to check em out. thanks

Yeah Black Sabbath was one of the bands that made me pick up guitar and for that I thank them. :p

Fairies Wear Boots or Sweet Leaf

I love Black Sabbath, theyre one of those bands like zeppelin that will never die....hell my dad got me listening to it and ill listen to it till the day i die. Sweet leaf and paranoid are my fav. songs. LONG LIVE SABBATH!!!!

Hey all! I dont have any albums of them, but i have plenty of their songs on mix cds. The best songs would have to be war pigs or paranoid.

im surprised there arent a lot more posts by now

They are one of my favourite bands. I especially love all of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and Paranoid. My favourtie album is Master Of Reality, but unfortuneatly I only have it on tape. :upset:

I don't like post-Ozzy Sabbath that much though.

yeah black sabbath they are may favorite band, im starting to get into sabbath after ozzy and dio, its really good, martin is a great singer, hes the only one ive really listened to.

all their songs are great

I really like Sabbath, especially the more bluesy/groovin stuff like The Wizard. It just shows how metal originated as sort of a fusion of blues and rock with a fair heap of attitude thrown in. Of course, they're rockin stuff is awesome as well.
LONG LIVE SABBATH!

My favorite would be Paranoid. You should get the "We Sold Our Soul To Rock n Roll" CD.

sabbath are the reason i picked up guitar, my fav song by them is probably war pigs, but there are many a awesome song... like the wizard, nothing like ozzy on harmonica :p

[QUOTE=rising_fury]sabbath are the reason i picked up guitar, my fav song by them is probably war pigs, but there are many a awesome song... like the wizard, nothing like ozzy on harmonica :p[/QUOTE]
same here about the guitar part

black sabbath - iron man, nib, paranoid

ozzy - crazy train, mr crowley, no more tears

Sabbath - Wizard, Supernaut, NIB, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Heaven and Hell

Ozzy - Too many to name really, I'm more familiar with Ozzy than Sabbath as I have more of his albums.

i changed the thread title, i hope its ok

i dont have a favoritesabbath song because i love all of them and you cant go wrong with ozzy

Good Black Sabbath albums - Vol.4, Heaven and Hell, Sabotage, Never Say Die!

Good Sabbath songs:

Air Dance (Never Say Die!)
Megalomania (Sabotage)
Supernaut (Vol.4)
Tomorrow's Dream (Vol.4)
Its Alright (Technical Ecstasy)
N.I.B (Black Sabbath)
Planet Caravan (Paranoid)
Solitude (Master of Reality)
Swinging the Chain (Never Say Die!)
Fluff (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)
Who Are You (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)
The Writ (Sabotage)
You Won't Change Me (Technical Ecstasy)
Sabbra Cadabra (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)
Sleeping Village/The Warning (Black Sabbath)

I've only included the Ozzy-era songs, seeing as I'm feeling lazy and most people like the Ozzy-era of Black Sabbath.

the wizard rules

[QUOTE=starappletheory]I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti[/QUOTE]


sabbath make zeppelin sound light, but they both used to play more bluesy based styles

favourite sabbath song is probably the origional version of war pigs that is on ozzy's "the ozzman cometh"

ozzy - hellraiser

Paranoid - the first Black Sabbath song i heard

[QUOTE=Lord Brummington]I've only included the Ozzy-era songs, seeing as I'm feeling lazy and most people like the Ozzy-era of Black Sabbath.[/QUOTE]

I think thats because most people havent heard anything but ozzy era sabbath. :(

My five favourite Sabbath songs are: Symptom Of The Universe, Sign Of The Southern Cross, The Shining, Computer God and Children Of the Grave.... Mainly for the reason that they all have balls that are comparable to the size of large oranges.

i love sabbath but i don't like ozzys solo career

I like Sabbath better than solo, but I gotta say no more tears had some good tracks on it, highlight of his solo career in my opinion

you can't beat black sabbath, sweet leaf, a national acrobat or iron man

I bought a 2 disc cd called "The Best of Black Sabbath" last week. It's this best thing I've bought for ages:thumb:

i really think for anyone interested in sabbath should find a great song for what they like musically, for the usual slow but heavy riffs , listen to master of reality, for the more epic and ambitious, give sabbath bloody sabbath and sabotage a go, for power-ballads, listen to anything from after ian gillan left up until before dio came back, for the faster stuff, try heaven and hell, mob rules, and dehumanizer,

key tracks

black sabbath (black sabbath)
n.i.b (black sabbath)
paranoid (paranoid)
iron man (paranoid)
war pigs (paranoid)
electric funeral (paranoid)
children of the grave (mor)
sweet leaf (mor)
lord of this world (mor)
into the void (mor)
snowblind (vol4)
tomorrows dream (vol4)
supernaut (vol4)
sabbath bloody sabbath (sbs)
a national acrabat (sbs)
who are you (sbs)
looking for today (sbs)
killing yourself to live (sbs)
hole in the sky (sabotage) - kick a$$ riff, sounds sort of like slower powerslave era iron maiden, real slower.
symptom of the universe (sabotage)
am i going insane (sabotage)
dirty women (technical ecstasy) - lol i think tony was using too much on this album but still a good record.
never say die (nsd)
johnny blade (nsd)
shock wave (nsd) - one of my favs- killer intro, great lyrics, goes get a bit bowie-ish after a while.
air dance (nsd)
heaven and hell (hah)
die young (hah)
neon knights (hah)
children of the sea (hah) or is that on mob rules ???????
the mob rules (mob rules) - even though it says KILL OZZY, on the front cover-.
turn up the night (mob rules) really strange for a band that done somethinglike war pigs or spiral architect- but straight up rock.
computer god (dehumanizer)
tv crimes (dehumanizer)
I (dehumanizer)
kiss of death (forbidden)
psycho man (reunion)

sorry for the long post but i get worked up about sabbath and when i saw this thread -WOW- P.S. you can tell i'm not really a fan of much of the 80's stuff.

^Wow, I think I've found someone who's on the same level as me for being a Sabbath fan.

:)