Voice audio samples! ** Updated**
 

hehe, that was to get your attention.

so i got my mic back. and i was wanting to see if any of you are interested in hearing any of the stuff i talk about, like gliss, falsetto, scrape, etc. And dont go throwing a bunch of "do what jason oreantasi does in the song Shooting Blanks in My Hand...that scream that he does at the end" cause i aint gonna know it! I will post a few clips of my favorites, maybe some cornell, some apc, deftones, mudvayne. but since i live in an apartment i cant just be screaming a bunch, at least i'd rather not. So If any of you want anything or something you might not understand, post it. and i'll make a list. I will certain do some rasp because sometimes hearing it done in the raw helps you hear what you need to do. when you hear stuff all the time from studio recordings, its different than hearing it "live". I actually made a big stride by hearing mudvayne live and realizing how he was doing what he was doing just by hearing him have to pronounce it more since its live.
anyways, let me know. im out.

yea man, that would be super rad an it would help alot of people out....including me :thumb:

can't wait to hear some stuff. btw, what kind of mic do u have?

Merkaba-1, i was wondering if you can post some of your screams up. i have been singin for almost a yr now, and love it. I can inhale scream real good, but only just starting to get the exhale ones (falsetto / whisper). I can do the Come Push the Sun Aside part in my own summer - deftones. id you have msn please add me, [email]danielhm1@hotmail.com[/email]

"I think god is moving, its tongue..."

well i dont inhale scream. for my own reasons. if you want, then be careful is all i can say.

I'm sure i'll put a couple of deftones type deals up.

hope to hear your stuff...I appreciate all the good advice as others do ...rock on!

Merkaba-1, i find that inhale screams do least too me.... i guess its because ive been doing them for ages, but it doesnt have any effect too my singing voice... i want to master the exhaling screams like chino though... i have a pretty good strong falsetto voice, and when we get our demo cd back i will post them up. I just need a bit of help with the exhale screaming... i just need to know the right procedure and perhaps hearing the transition from singing to screaming might help. Please add me if you have msn. Thanks

the thing about chino/mudvayne/linkin park screams, you just cant push as hard as i think alot of people think. i mean you can, and keep doing it, but you wont be able to do it for long. but the mic should be your friend. plus you have to find that point where your cords activate with the tone you want. you have to play around with that first. too much or too little air pressure and you lose it.

i was just playing around with my mic and did an inner scream that i think is pretty fukin wicked, i guess. I'm not an inner scream guy, its just not in my genre, though you could really get someones attention with it. perhaps for me it would be in some slow spacey song. for effect. not something i would do alot of.

But i will hopefully have some samples up maybe later tonight. i have to go to work though. We'll see. anyways, hopefully you can hear the transition and figure it out! chow
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here is the link to some samples and a bit of an instruction i guess. I hope it can help. If anyone wants anything else let me know!

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/merkabastarmusic.htm[/url]

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dude, you super-rock!

the songs / screams have not cleared, Ill check tommorrow. lookin' forward to em'

dude your falsetto scream is awsome.
I can scream but wen i scream in falsetto i cant get rasp for some reason........it sucks :upset:

you should do some falsetto screams with words so we can here it a little better. other than that they are awesome

yea i thought about that after i did it. i was kinda in a hurry to put something up cause my work schedule is hectic this week. hmmm. I'll try to think up some good falsetto passes to put up. i know soundgarden will give me some ideas... already got some. Limo Wreck.....

funny, i havent written much of my own stuff with alot of falsetto.

yea, if anyone else has any other "requests" let me know.

[QUOTE=Winter-seed...AKA b&h]dude your falsetto scream is awsome.
I can scream but wen i scream in falsetto i cant get rasp for some reason........it sucks :upset:[/QUOTE]

keep working. its more about the gut really. I just came up with another thing to listen to to kinda get a feel for it. if i can remember it later i'll put it up.

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ok, i just recorded it, but the upload thing for the site is down for maintenance, so check back to see if i have it up. should be something like falsetto lesson 1.

by the way Jos1ah, i use a SureSM58, couldve sworn i put that up but i guess i didnt.

oh markaba man, ur a legend.
That stuff helped so much already. Im already starting to get a feel for how the scream should be.
Thanks alot for that

Hey, great work on those audio samples, it inspired me to do a quick demo of a new song im testing with the band, i do an inhaled scream in here, im still working on the exhaling ones.
The recording is real dodgy and just done DI guitar and my shure sm58 into my laptop
[url]http://users.cjb.net/boxplot/little%20demo-01.wma[/url]
my band can be found at [url]www.boxplot.tk[/url]
let me know of opinions.... if anyone is looking at help with inhaled screams, let me know.... Mereka-1 awsome screaming man

Merkaba - legend material - very helpful for screams - interesting stuff. Thanks for the post.

p.s. those screams are insanely ferocious. that is the real deal right there. you got it down :thumb:

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]by the way Jos1ah, i use a SureSM58, couldve sworn i put that up but i guess i didnt.[/QUOTE]
check.
you have a deep speaking voice. where are u from?

[QUOTE=j0s1ah]check.
you have a deep speaking voice. where are u from?[/QUOTE]

lol...South Carolina

I meant to put up a disclaimer, forbidding you all from making any fun at any southern drawls, slants, rolls and or accent i have. hehe. but it was late. I've noticed that depending on my mood and the emotion, i get really gutty so to speak, or im high pitched other times. I never really thought i had a low voice. maybe because of the mood. who knows. Many people say i sound like i girl when i pick up the phone somtimes, I'm just all over the place i guess.

lol thats weird, anytway, those screams are wicked. good job.

hey i got a question......
whats the feeling u should get on ur throat when u scream?
cause when u scream it sounds pretty alright but i get a slight scrathy feeling on my throat an im not sure if thats right.
also after practicing for about 1 an half hours my throat felt irriatted .......not sore but irritated so i dunno what im doing wrong.......coud be in not opening my throat enough?

^ i just responded in the other thread where you asked. and also, watch for over pushing.

Merkaba-1 help My Scream needs to get better
 

Hi,

Merkaba-1 i listened to your recordings and it helped me alot from when i started with nothing. I kinda like the type of scream for the music i play (EMERY, FINCH) those types of screams

What im trying to say is do you think you can give me some tips?, im not too good yet and i wanna get good so bad. I try but i get all this stuff on how to scream but some tips tell me things that i hear is wrong and i get confused.

OR CAN ANYONE HELP ME?

thanks

PS: PLZ be kind

My Friends Scream
 

HI this is my friend WINTERSEED tell me what you think

Hey, Emery. I like that Winterseed guy, he sounds pretty good. Your's was clipping quite a lot, but sounded decent... maybe a little thin compared to your friend.

Anyway, my purpose of posting here is to once again thank Merkaba for these sound things. I wasn't sure what a scream was supposed to be like. People are always like "from the gut" and stuff, but it's really all in the raspiness I guess.

I hope you post up some more different kind of screams, maybe some non-falsetto ones. Do you have any recordings of you singing in a band or something?

[QUOTE=mactabilis]Hey, Emery. I like that Winterseed guy, he sounds pretty good. Your's was clipping quite a lot, but sounded decent... maybe a little thin compared to your friend.

Anyway, my purpose of posting here is to once again thank Merkaba for these sound things. I wasn't sure what a scream was supposed to be like. People are always like "from the gut" and stuff, but it's really all in the raspiness I guess.

I hope you post up some more different kind of screams, maybe some non-falsetto ones. Do you have any recordings of you singing in a band or something?[/QUOTE]

Well over time you might realize that its still ver important to feel as though its coming from the gut. this just means that you throat isnt tense. And nah, i was in a band a few years ago, i've been doing some writing lately, but i havent really looked into trying to get back into a band because i'm concentrating on working on my voice more now. maybe next year! i do want to do some acoustic stuff though but i still havent found anyone. Im gonna do another sample or two later. but my work schedule is killing me now.

outtie

Still, am I right that there is simply no way to scream from your gut? I mean, you can get the volume of air coming from deep, but the rasp/scream sound is coming from your throat. I've been trying to scream in my gut without rasping my throat and it just doesn't happen.

i loved that inhale scream. the sharpness is absolutely killer.

Merkaba, i cannot thank you enough! I think i have it down-pat, but i'll just check with the master before i go too hard at it. My technique is this: I close my throat a bit, like i'm whispering. I push out the air from my stomach and pull down on the back of my throat like you described. Then i can just alter the tone from replicating something similar to your falsetto scream (ala A Static Lullaby) to a deeper growl (ala Atreyu). There isn't any pain except a slight dryness to my throat (which i think may be because i haven't been practicing for long) and i can still talk and sing perfectly afterwards. Are there any suggestions/improvements you would make?
PS. If you would like i could post something on that soundclick site.

Also, if it's not too much trouble to ask, could you please also demostrate going from singing falsetto into the falsetto scream so we can see the transition and figure out what's going on when you make that change.

[QUOTE=mactabilis]Still, am I right that there is simply no way to scream from your gut? I mean, you can get the volume of air coming from deep, but the rasp/scream sound is coming from your throat. I've been trying to scream in my gut without rasping my throat and it just doesn't happen.[/QUOTE]

its written that way to give an idea through words. the sounds are generated in one spot only. The support however should come from your diaphragm. Any instructor will tell you that. Dont think about it as being in your gut, jus supported by your gut. if you make a grunt, the feel in your stomach area is what im talking about. Thats basically it. but you learn to hold this behind a note. if you grunt, youre actually rasping the same way. but you cant just grunt an extending note because theres not enough air suupported behind the cords. so grunt and youre rasping! open up and activate the cords more and youre rasping a note.

i gotta get up in three hours, go to work, then drink cord dehydrating alchol at a party. so i'll get back to the rest of you guys soon.

take it easy.

Also bro, what's the most you should practice in a day? Is there a limit?

[QUOTE=shortstorieswithtragicendings]Also bro, what's the most you should practice in a day? Is there a limit?[/QUOTE]
I'd basically assume until you start to fatigue. Practice as much as you can, it can't hurt, unless it starts to physically hurt.

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]its written that way to give an idea through words. the sounds are generated in one spot only. The support however should come from your diaphragm. Any instructor will tell you that. Dont think about it as being in your gut, jus supported by your gut. if you make a grunt, the feel in your stomach area is what im talking about. Thats basically it. but you learn to hold this behind a note. if you grunt, youre actually rasping the same way. but you cant just grunt an extending note because theres not enough air suupported behind the cords. so grunt and youre rasping! open up and activate the cords more and youre rasping a note.[/QUOTE]
I can actually speak and sing while grunting... I've practiced it a lot. I feel like a complete dumbass for not realizing that's what I want. I just was always assuming I was doing it wrong.

[QUOTE=Emery_Walls]Hi,

Merkaba-1 i listened to your recordings and it helped me alot from when i started with nothing. I kinda like the type of scream for the music i play (EMERY, FINCH) those types of screams

What im trying to say is do you think you can give me some tips?, im not too good yet and i wanna get good so bad. I try but i get all this stuff on how to scream but some tips tell me things that i hear is wrong and i get confused.

OR CAN ANYONE HELP ME?

thanks

PS: PLZ be kind[/QUOTE]

both of you guys sound pretty da[SIZE=2]m[/SIZE]n good. Made my eyebrows raise.
the recording is pretty hot, high level sounding. so i cant really tell if all of the distortion is coming from the electronics or your throat. thats good for live situations but not good for me to disect. It sounds like you've got it though. They sound like chest voice, so i think you might be wanting to get a higher scream i guess? i've heard like one song by finch that i can remember and it was falsetto screamin like deftones. i kinda thought about them maybe trying to be like deftones in that song. that was like last year or so ago. something about "how to burn" or something with burn in it.

anyways. it also sounds like you might be pushing pretty hard. just be careful. especially with a chest voice scream. for higher screams you just practice singing the notes first. then relax and bank the air off of your throat its pretty much the same thing except you dont use your cords the same so it takes a bit of a different feel for your brain. this is why i suggest first practicing the isolation stuff and learn to sing the note first. that way youre only using your cords and not tensing up your larynx. then you know that what youre adding isnt a combination of tense actions, but just your normal hard singin note with some throat added. i mean you can try it all in one sitting. it doesnt have to be like two weeks of isolation only. just get the feel of hitting a higher note, then try to rasp it.

sounds good. Its chest voice so be sure not to over do these. but keep at it if there is no pain or affect on your speaking voice.
good job! :thumb:

edt: hot, high level sounding was not a complement. though it does sound good. i was meaning the input was high. just thought i should clarify just incase you read it the other way.

[QUOTE=shortstorieswithtragicendings]Also bro, what's the most you should practice in a day? Is there a limit?[/QUOTE]

If it was up to me i would practice at least two hours a day. maybe four if i had time to get two, two hours sessions in or something like that. i would do this maybe like three times a week. and maybe an hour and half on the other days. one day of lighter singing. i like singing alot of less stressful stuff too, so its not all screaming.

It kinda depends on what youre doing and what youre working on.

Now after a long session you might have more mucous the next day, you might not be able to tell its all mucous, it just may feel like stiff cords. but its often stiff cords and mucous. the next day you might need a longer warm up time to get loosened back up. Like i said, for me, i prefer to have about an hour warm up time. and then some time before i start trying to kill myself. so thats an hour and half right there. just feel yourself out and you know my mottos: no pain/no speaking voice alteration. stay hydrated, use proper technique. and warm down especially after a long session.

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]both of you guys sound pretty da[SIZE=2]m[/SIZE]n good. Made my eyebrows raise.
the recording is pretty hot, high level sounding. so i cant really tell if all of the distortion is coming from the electronics or your throat. thats good for live situations but not good for me to disect. It sounds like you've got it though. They sound like chest voice, so i think you might be wanting to get a higher scream i guess? i've heard like one song by finch that i can remember and it was falsetto screamin like deftones. i kinda thought about them maybe trying to be like deftones in that song. that was like last year or so ago. something about "how to burn" or something with burn in it.

anyways. it also sounds like you might be pushing pretty hard. just be careful. especially with a chest voice scream. for higher screams you just practice singing the notes first. then relax and bank the air off of your throat its pretty much the same thing except you dont use your cords the same so it takes a bit of a different feel for your brain. this is why i suggest first practicing the isolation stuff and learn to sing the note first. that way youre only using your cords and not tensing up your larynx. then you know that what youre adding isnt a combination of tense actions, but just your normal hard singin note with some throat added. i mean you can try it all in one sitting. it doesnt have to be like two weeks of isolation only. just get the feel of hitting a higher note, then try to rasp it.

sounds good. Its chest voice so be sure not to over do these. but keep at it if there is no pain or affect on your speaking voice.
good job! :thumb:[/QUOTE]


Hey Merkaba-1

Thanks for the tips you really have helped me, and yes the song is called [B]what it is to burn[/B]. I will keep at it and post more screams later.


:thumb: Emery

Sorry to bug you but i got another question
 

Hi Merkaba-1

I have another question, when you scream while saying some words like in the song [B]WALLS BY EMERY [/B] how is this done? from what i've heard is it has to have more rasp and needs a lower note then a high pitch scream, and if you could help me out that would be cool.