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Magicaltroll 02-14-2005 11:42 PM

Nine Inch Nails
 
Wow... i cant wait for this album! they released the tracklist on nin.com if you didnt know :thumb: also a teaser... the teaser is very... teasy, but it sounds like a pretty cool song.

what do you guys think this album will be like?
i thought it was very weird that they have two songs with the word "love" in the song titles... nothing wrong with it, its just kind of weird, and should be interesting to hear.

well if anyymore news comes out, it would be cool of you to post it here, thanks in advance :)

Magicaltroll 02-15-2005 04:55 PM

wow, no ones looking forward to this album? i thought everyone would be excited about it (well the NIN fans...)

Bartender 02-15-2005 05:08 PM

I'm looking forward to hearing the album, but a tracklist isn't really much to go on. None of the titles particularly strike me, anyway, but then I never thought lyrics were his strong point.

Kage 02-15-2005 05:59 PM

I'm extremley excited. When I think of it, I act like a giddy little girl.

But seriously, it's awesome that he posted the tracklist. That just confirms that it's getting down to the final period of waiting after five years of doing so. The teaser was really cool, and that song just sounds awesome, though I have no idea how it will fit into the album (or even the song) based on what The Fragile's teasers turned out to be. The word is that the clip on the teaser is from The Hand That Feeds, which will be the first single planned for an April release, I believe.

In the mean time, I'll just keep binging on the other NIN albums.

Also, does anyone know if the Closure DVD is going to be coming out with the new album?

The other thing I'm waiting to hear about is if he's going to release the 5.1 mix with the album, or wait until later (as the album was mixed in both stereo and 5.1)

BlindWriting 02-15-2005 06:45 PM

With Teeth will be released with both stereo and 5.1 surround sound. I simply cannot wait for this album. I second Bartender about none of the song titles looking to intruiging... but hey, at least it's a total of thirteen songs as opposed to the rumored track list of twelve.
And no, the Closure DVD will not be released with the new album. Trent Reznor says that it has been done for some time, but due to legal issues, he can't get it out to the public just yet.
I'd definitely like to see them live, because when Trent performs his music with a band, it rocks really, [i]really[/i] hard.

Kage 02-15-2005 06:55 PM

I think The Collector is a really cool name. Despite what Trent has been saying ("twelve punches to the face" (although as we know now, it would rather be 13)), I hope the album is at least somewhat conceptual, as TDS and The Fragile were both very intriguing with their concepts and thematic material, such as the recurring motifs in both albums.

Magicaltroll 02-15-2005 07:02 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]I'm extremley excited. When I think of it, I act like a giddy little girl.

But seriously, it's awesome that he posted the tracklist. That just confirms that it's getting down to the final period of waiting after five years of doing so. The teaser was really cool, and that song just sounds awesome, though I have no idea how it will fit into the album (or even the song) based on what The Fragile's teasers turned out to be. The word is that the clip on the teaser is from The Hand That Feeds, which will be the first single planned for an April release, I believe.

In the mean time, I'll just keep binging on the other NIN albums.

Also, does anyone know if the Closure DVD is going to be coming out with the new album?

The other thing I'm waiting to hear about is if he's going to release the 5.1 mix with the album, or wait until later (as the album was mixed in both stereo and 5.1)[/QUOTE]


yeah i know what you mean about the NIN binging, ive been listening to the fragile and TDS nonstop ever since about November, i just cant wait for this album... the tracklist i think is pretty cool, im looking forward to hearing "only" because it sounds like a song like "hurt" or "great below" or "something i can never have". and i just love those songs...

and to the guy who said lyrics arent his strong point, i completely disagree, he has some of the best lyrics in my pinion, i mean, the music helps it ALOT, but the lyrics are jsut plain awesome to me :thumb:

Kage 02-15-2005 07:05 PM

I do hope there are some Hurt/Great Below/Something...-style songs on the new record. I mean, I love the fast-paced, heavy stuff, but I'd say the best moments are the slower and more beautiful ones. I doubt Trent will let us down, as he hasn't yet. The clip in the trailer sounds [I]very[/I] promising. It's very atmospheric and dark, which is exactly what I hope the album is.

Magicaltroll 02-15-2005 07:09 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]I do hope there are some Hurt/Great Below/Something...-style songs on the new record. I mean, I love the fast-paced, heavy stuff, but I'd say the best moments are the slower and more beautiful ones. I doubt Trent will let us down, as he hasn't yet. The clip in the trailor sounds [I]very[/I] promising. It's very atmospheric and dark, which is exactly what I hope the album is.[/QUOTE]
yeah I agree, I think the teaser thing is awesome.
i couldnt say which songs i like more by him, between the faster and the softer ones, all i know is i just wanna weep everytime i hear "Something I Can Never Have" that song rules. i also want to see closure very badly, i just love the DVD "And All That Could Of Been"... its just incredible :thumb:

Bartender 02-15-2005 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=magicaltroll834]
and to the guy who said lyrics arent his strong point, i completely disagree, he has some of the best lyrics in my pinion, i mean, the music helps it ALOT, but the lyrics are jsut plain awesome to me :thumb:[/QUOTE]

He does have his moments with lyrics (the opening lyric of Hurt, for example, is still very powerful), but;

"pleading and, needing and, bleeding and, breeding and, feeding, exceeding"

"She shines
in a world full of ugliness
she matters when everything is meaningless"

Two of the more extreme examples, yeah, but his lyrics aren't always great. Lots of day-ray-may, cat-sat-mat rhyming. I'm not saying they're bad, but they're not his strong point. His strength, I think (aside from the experimental nature of the music, which can be amazing) is his ability to make lyrics like that work. He's very good at songwriting outside of lyricism, making lyrics, whatever they are, flow incredibly well and catchily (witness; the outro of Somewhat Damaged; "The me that you know.." and following, from The Becoming).

Anyway, my point was that only The Collector, if any, really stands out as anything close to an interesting song title, to me.

Burdcheese 02-16-2005 04:57 AM

While the Fragile isn't, I'd say TDS (listening to it now) is a lyrical masterpiece.

With Teeth is my most-looked forward to album and has been for some time.

/heads to NIN website in search of taster

skinnypuppy 02-16-2005 07:57 AM

not many people got ahold of this, but the delux version of "and all that could have been" has a bonus cd called "still", and on it is a song called "and all that could have been" - that my friends, is probably the best nin song ever recorded. it's simply beautiful.

clearvision 02-16-2005 09:03 AM

I have listened to TDS a couple of times after people said it was amazing..

am i the only one that doesn't find it great? Hurt is a good song, other than that :confused:

shane italian 02-16-2005 09:05 AM

I'm ready for it.

Mitchell Royce 02-16-2005 09:22 AM

I absolutly cannot wait. 2005 is tunrning out to have a bunch of great stuff lined up so far( at least IMO). New QOTSA, new Trail of Dead, (lets hope) new Tool and a bunch of others.

clearvision 02-16-2005 10:02 AM

THERE WILL BE NEW TOOL. Maybe as soon as july *drool*

3074326 02-16-2005 11:49 AM

I'm anticipating the NIN album. I have faith that Reznor still has songwriting ability.

munky_magik 02-16-2005 11:57 AM

*joins the excitment*

It had better come out on time.

Burdcheese 02-16-2005 12:15 PM

The date seems fairly solid - 3rd May

Unless you're talking about Tool in which case - ???

munky_magik 02-16-2005 12:18 PM

Despite my usual tendency to slip off topic, I was talking about NIN.
I'm interested as to what the new Tool release will be like, but I'm not that excited about it.

BnG_DJ 02-16-2005 06:53 PM

[QUOTE=clearvision]I have listened to TDS a couple of times after people said it was amazing..

am i the only one that doesn't find it great? Hurt is a good song, other than that :confused:[/QUOTE]

though personally, i really liked that album, i know what you mean about everyone being like "such and such is the best blah ever" abd then you listen to it and it isnt that great because you were expecting so much out of it.
this happened to me with led zepplin and a few other things considered great

vashts80 02-16-2005 07:32 PM

I'm as giddy as a 13 year old girl on crack.

NIN > *

.

Kage 02-16-2005 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=clearvision]I have listened to TDS a couple of times after people said it was amazing..

am i the only one that doesn't find it great? Hurt is a good song, other than that :confused:[/QUOTE]

Perhaps someone built it up too much for you. Luckily for me, I bought that album on a whim, so I wasn't really expecting anything.

But TDS, for me in a very extreme case, is something I had to listen to many many times to get into. After that, it just hit me and I realized how amazing it is. It is now one of my favorite albums ever.

If you haven't listened to the teaser, it's available at nin.com as well as the tracklist. That song sounds really good, from the thirty seconds we got of it.

And about Reznor's lyrics, I've always liked them a lot, but never considered them of any huge greatness until I read in a little on them and realized that when you take them at face value, sometimes they might not seem so great, but there's really a lot more to it than most people think. This goes for the instrumental parts as well, which most people who don't like NIN or like them just for the face "heavy rock" value often overlook.

Magicaltroll 02-17-2005 09:31 PM

[QUOTE=Burdcheese]While the Fragile isn't, I'd say TDS (listening to it now) is a lyrical masterpiece.

With Teeth is my most-looked forward to album and has been for some time.

/heads to NIN website in search of taster[/QUOTE]
man, i actually think The Fragile is his best work... but alot of other people like TDS better than the fragile also, so i guess its just me.

Magicaltroll 02-17-2005 09:38 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]He does have his moments with lyrics (the opening lyric of Hurt, for example, is still very powerful), but;

"pleading and, needing and, bleeding and, breeding and, feeding, exceeding"

"She shines
in a world full of ugliness
she matters when everything is meaningless"

Two of the more extreme examples, yeah, but his lyrics aren't always great. Lots of day-ray-may, cat-sat-mat rhyming. I'm not saying they're bad, but they're not his strong point. His strength, I think (aside from the experimental nature of the music, which can be amazing) is his ability to make lyrics like that work. He's very good at songwriting outside of lyricism, making lyrics, whatever they are, flow incredibly well and catchily (witness; the outro of Somewhat Damaged; "The me that you know.." and following, from The Becoming).

Anyway, my point was that only The Collector, if any, really stands out as anything close to an interesting song title, to me.[/QUOTE]


theres a few lyrical... peices, that i just cant stand really. like in Where is Everybody?" when he says

"god **** i am so tired of pretending, wishing i was ending"

that line just annoys the crap outta me! i love that song, but the lyrics arent that good on it.

and also in "The Big Comedown", i love the music, but the lyrics just arent appealing to me, but i love the way he sings it, it makes the song 100x better for me. so i see what your saying about the lyric "flowing" with the music very well

Kage 02-17-2005 09:48 PM

Like I said before, there's more to Reznor's lyrics than a lot of people think, which is why a lot of people often criticize them without sufficient knowledge on his reasons for writing them.

I think he has some guts for saying some of the things he does. Granted, there are a few points where I think he must have had a momentary lapse of reason or something.

deadinholywood 02-17-2005 09:57 PM

I very rarely listen to TDS anymore, i find it to be a bit cold for my liking, Its the left side of The Fragile that does it for me!

Kage 02-17-2005 09:59 PM

I think I over-listened to the Left side at some point, so now i listen to Right more, even though I think Left is superior in terms of conceptual flow, lyrics, and songs in general.

And anyone who only knows/has listened to only NIN's three (four if you count the EP Broken) main albums is missing out on some good stuff. He has some B-Sides and remixes that are pretty good, most of which can be downloaded via P2P programs if you don't want to buy all the Halos.

Recommended songs are "Adrift and At Peace" and "And All That Could Have Been" from the limited edition Still cd.

deadinholywood 02-17-2005 10:16 PM

Yeah the remix albums are fairly hit and miss for me, i mean things falling apart is quite good but i dont think i need to hear 6 different versions of closer (cough.. Halo 9)

Kage 02-17-2005 10:18 PM

[QUOTE=deadinholywood]Yeah the remix albums are fairly hit and miss for me, i mean things falling apart is quite good but i dont think i need to hear 6 different versions of closer (cough.. Halo 9)[/QUOTE]

haha, yeah, of course a few of the Halos are a bit superfluous, but there are some [I]really[/I] good ones. A lot of it is more of a collector's thing than it is for the actual music.


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