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Merkaba 08-31-2004 11:59 PM

Voice audio samples! ** Updated**
 
hehe, that was to get your attention.

so i got my mic back. and i was wanting to see if any of you are interested in hearing any of the stuff i talk about, like gliss, falsetto, scrape, etc. And dont go throwing a bunch of "do what jason oreantasi does in the song Shooting Blanks in My Hand...that scream that he does at the end" cause i aint gonna know it! I will post a few clips of my favorites, maybe some cornell, some apc, deftones, mudvayne. but since i live in an apartment i cant just be screaming a bunch, at least i'd rather not. So If any of you want anything or something you might not understand, post it. and i'll make a list. I will certain do some rasp because sometimes hearing it done in the raw helps you hear what you need to do. when you hear stuff all the time from studio recordings, its different than hearing it "live". I actually made a big stride by hearing mudvayne live and realizing how he was doing what he was doing just by hearing him have to pronounce it more since its live.
anyways, let me know. im out.

Winter-seed...AKA b&h 09-01-2004 12:14 AM

yea man, that would be super rad an it would help alot of people out....including me :thumb:

j0s1ah 09-01-2004 04:44 AM

can't wait to hear some stuff. btw, what kind of mic do u have?

Danielhm1 09-01-2004 04:55 AM

Merkaba-1, i was wondering if you can post some of your screams up. i have been singin for almost a yr now, and love it. I can inhale scream real good, but only just starting to get the exhale ones (falsetto / whisper). I can do the Come Push the Sun Aside part in my own summer - deftones. id you have msn please add me, [email]danielhm1@hotmail.com[/email]

Merkaba 09-02-2004 04:04 AM

"I think god is moving, its tongue..."

well i dont inhale scream. for my own reasons. if you want, then be careful is all i can say.

I'm sure i'll put a couple of deftones type deals up.

Levitate 09-03-2004 10:17 PM

hope to hear your stuff...I appreciate all the good advice as others do ...rock on!

Danielhm1 09-04-2004 06:29 AM

Merkaba-1, i find that inhale screams do least too me.... i guess its because ive been doing them for ages, but it doesnt have any effect too my singing voice... i want to master the exhaling screams like chino though... i have a pretty good strong falsetto voice, and when we get our demo cd back i will post them up. I just need a bit of help with the exhale screaming... i just need to know the right procedure and perhaps hearing the transition from singing to screaming might help. Please add me if you have msn. Thanks

Merkaba 09-04-2004 02:53 PM

the thing about chino/mudvayne/linkin park screams, you just cant push as hard as i think alot of people think. i mean you can, and keep doing it, but you wont be able to do it for long. but the mic should be your friend. plus you have to find that point where your cords activate with the tone you want. you have to play around with that first. too much or too little air pressure and you lose it.

i was just playing around with my mic and did an inner scream that i think is pretty fukin wicked, i guess. I'm not an inner scream guy, its just not in my genre, though you could really get someones attention with it. perhaps for me it would be in some slow spacey song. for effect. not something i would do alot of.

But i will hopefully have some samples up maybe later tonight. i have to go to work though. We'll see. anyways, hopefully you can hear the transition and figure it out! chow
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here is the link to some samples and a bit of an instruction i guess. I hope it can help. If anyone wants anything else let me know!

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/merkabastarmusic.htm[/url]

Merkaba 09-05-2004 04:14 PM

bump

Levitate 09-05-2004 07:40 PM

dude, you super-rock!

the songs / screams have not cleared, Ill check tommorrow. lookin' forward to em'

Winter-seed...AKA b&h 09-05-2004 11:36 PM

dude your falsetto scream is awsome.
I can scream but wen i scream in falsetto i cant get rasp for some reason........it sucks :upset:

UsefulIdi0t 09-06-2004 01:51 AM

you should do some falsetto screams with words so we can here it a little better. other than that they are awesome

Merkaba 09-06-2004 03:09 AM

yea i thought about that after i did it. i was kinda in a hurry to put something up cause my work schedule is hectic this week. hmmm. I'll try to think up some good falsetto passes to put up. i know soundgarden will give me some ideas... already got some. Limo Wreck.....

funny, i havent written much of my own stuff with alot of falsetto.

yea, if anyone else has any other "requests" let me know.

Merkaba 09-06-2004 03:18 AM

[QUOTE=Winter-seed...AKA b&h]dude your falsetto scream is awsome.
I can scream but wen i scream in falsetto i cant get rasp for some reason........it sucks :upset:[/QUOTE]

keep working. its more about the gut really. I just came up with another thing to listen to to kinda get a feel for it. if i can remember it later i'll put it up.

edit:
ok, i just recorded it, but the upload thing for the site is down for maintenance, so check back to see if i have it up. should be something like falsetto lesson 1.

Merkaba 09-06-2004 03:22 AM

by the way Jos1ah, i use a SureSM58, couldve sworn i put that up but i guess i didnt.

Winter-seed...AKA b&h 09-06-2004 06:34 AM

oh markaba man, ur a legend.
That stuff helped so much already. Im already starting to get a feel for how the scream should be.
Thanks alot for that

Danielhm1 09-06-2004 06:46 AM

Hey, great work on those audio samples, it inspired me to do a quick demo of a new song im testing with the band, i do an inhaled scream in here, im still working on the exhaling ones.
The recording is real dodgy and just done DI guitar and my shure sm58 into my laptop
[url]http://users.cjb.net/boxplot/little%20demo-01.wma[/url]
my band can be found at [url]www.boxplot.tk[/url]
let me know of opinions.... if anyone is looking at help with inhaled screams, let me know.... Mereka-1 awsome screaming man

Levitate 09-06-2004 08:48 AM

Merkaba - legend material - very helpful for screams - interesting stuff. Thanks for the post.

p.s. those screams are insanely ferocious. that is the real deal right there. you got it down :thumb:

j0s1ah 09-07-2004 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]by the way Jos1ah, i use a SureSM58, couldve sworn i put that up but i guess i didnt.[/QUOTE]
check.
you have a deep speaking voice. where are u from?

Merkaba 09-08-2004 12:01 AM

[QUOTE=j0s1ah]check.
you have a deep speaking voice. where are u from?[/QUOTE]

lol...South Carolina

I meant to put up a disclaimer, forbidding you all from making any fun at any southern drawls, slants, rolls and or accent i have. hehe. but it was late. I've noticed that depending on my mood and the emotion, i get really gutty so to speak, or im high pitched other times. I never really thought i had a low voice. maybe because of the mood. who knows. Many people say i sound like i girl when i pick up the phone somtimes, I'm just all over the place i guess.

j0s1ah 09-08-2004 05:22 AM

lol thats weird, anytway, those screams are wicked. good job.

Winter-seed...AKA b&h 09-09-2004 08:59 PM

hey i got a question......
whats the feeling u should get on ur throat when u scream?
cause when u scream it sounds pretty alright but i get a slight scrathy feeling on my throat an im not sure if thats right.
also after practicing for about 1 an half hours my throat felt irriatted .......not sore but irritated so i dunno what im doing wrong.......coud be in not opening my throat enough?

Merkaba 09-10-2004 12:40 AM

^ i just responded in the other thread where you asked. and also, watch for over pushing.

Emery_Walls 09-10-2004 03:31 AM

Merkaba-1 help My Scream needs to get better
 
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Hi,

Merkaba-1 i listened to your recordings and it helped me alot from when i started with nothing. I kinda like the type of scream for the music i play (EMERY, FINCH) those types of screams

What im trying to say is do you think you can give me some tips?, im not too good yet and i wanna get good so bad. I try but i get all this stuff on how to scream but some tips tell me things that i hear is wrong and i get confused.

OR CAN ANYONE HELP ME?

thanks

PS: PLZ be kind

Emery_Walls 09-10-2004 03:34 AM

My Friends Scream
 
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HI this is my friend WINTERSEED tell me what you think

mactabilis 09-10-2004 10:43 AM

Hey, Emery. I like that Winterseed guy, he sounds pretty good. Your's was clipping quite a lot, but sounded decent... maybe a little thin compared to your friend.

Anyway, my purpose of posting here is to once again thank Merkaba for these sound things. I wasn't sure what a scream was supposed to be like. People are always like "from the gut" and stuff, but it's really all in the raspiness I guess.

I hope you post up some more different kind of screams, maybe some non-falsetto ones. Do you have any recordings of you singing in a band or something?

Merkaba 09-10-2004 01:00 PM

[QUOTE=mactabilis]Hey, Emery. I like that Winterseed guy, he sounds pretty good. Your's was clipping quite a lot, but sounded decent... maybe a little thin compared to your friend.

Anyway, my purpose of posting here is to once again thank Merkaba for these sound things. I wasn't sure what a scream was supposed to be like. People are always like "from the gut" and stuff, but it's really all in the raspiness I guess.

I hope you post up some more different kind of screams, maybe some non-falsetto ones. Do you have any recordings of you singing in a band or something?[/QUOTE]

Well over time you might realize that its still ver important to feel as though its coming from the gut. this just means that you throat isnt tense. And nah, i was in a band a few years ago, i've been doing some writing lately, but i havent really looked into trying to get back into a band because i'm concentrating on working on my voice more now. maybe next year! i do want to do some acoustic stuff though but i still havent found anyone. Im gonna do another sample or two later. but my work schedule is killing me now.

outtie

mactabilis 09-10-2004 02:27 PM

Still, am I right that there is simply no way to scream from your gut? I mean, you can get the volume of air coming from deep, but the rasp/scream sound is coming from your throat. I've been trying to scream in my gut without rasping my throat and it just doesn't happen.

shadedlife 09-10-2004 06:06 PM

i loved that inhale scream. the sharpness is absolutely killer.

shortstorieswithtragicendings 09-10-2004 06:09 PM

Merkaba, i cannot thank you enough! I think i have it down-pat, but i'll just check with the master before i go too hard at it. My technique is this: I close my throat a bit, like i'm whispering. I push out the air from my stomach and pull down on the back of my throat like you described. Then i can just alter the tone from replicating something similar to your falsetto scream (ala A Static Lullaby) to a deeper growl (ala Atreyu). There isn't any pain except a slight dryness to my throat (which i think may be because i haven't been practicing for long) and i can still talk and sing perfectly afterwards. Are there any suggestions/improvements you would make?
PS. If you would like i could post something on that soundclick site.


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