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[QUOTE=masada;16814585]still talking about this **** jesus christ[/QUOTE]

i no rly talking about things of substance instead of spamming, ****ing hell guys

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go drink some wine baby ur stressed

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;16814483]A few reasons:
1. They are educated by an overwhelmingly liberal teacher base.
2. They are open minded to new ideas because they are inexperienced.
3. Conservatism is bred of lethargy, and young people aren't yet lethargic or jaded.
4. Liberalism is in line more with middle class values which is what everyone in America wants to be until life experiences change them.[/QUOTE]
i would agree with 1 and 2.

3 is wrong period. Liberalism is known to be much more breeding of lazy people, if we appeal to stereotypes. (and slightly personal experience i guess.) And i dont get the jaded part. I find liberal idealists much more "jaded" with indoctrination whilst conservatives are more pragmatic and resistant to change.

4 is somewhat write. I would say that young people find more definition and relation to the lowly individual because they are generally more poor. They see on a surface level and rhetoric level, that liberals are much more appeasing to them (even if its not necessarily true).

I would say liberalism also stems from the fact that younger people are often more idealistic and utopian oriented, as where older people are more pragmatic.

no thx i feel great =)

[QUOTE=McP3000;16814612]i would agree with 1 and 2.

3 is wrong period. Liberalism is known to be much more breeding of lazy people, if we appeal to stereotypes. (and slightly personal experience i guess.)

4 is somewhat write. I would say that young people find more definition and relation to the lowly individual because they are generally more poor. They see on a surface level and rhetoric level, that liberals are much more appeasing to them (even if its not necessarily true).

I would say liberalism also stems from the fact that younger people are often more idealistic and utopian oriented, as where older people are more pragmatic.[/QUOTE]
3 is not wrong period. Liberalism is associated with changing while conservatism is sticking to what is standard. Liberalism is progressive. Conservatism isn't regressive, but it's very much for keeping things as they are.

Middle class isn't "lowly." America is all about the middle class though, which is about change (The American Dream) and equality and things of that nature. Liberalism is focused on all those sorts of ideals in their rhetoric.

That last is what I was trying to cover in 2 and 3.

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814278]we needed bush as our president this past decade dude. we were attacked. on american soil. bush being a militant mother****er pwned the noobs who hit us and took out one of the biggest supporters of al-qaeda.

his policies outside of the war are pretty lol though.
.[/QUOTE]
We didn't "need" Bush at all. Any president at that time would have sent troops into the middle east. The military has A LOT of influence over the president.


[QUOTE=masada;16814284]there are a lot of kids at my school that regurgitate obama rhetoric but dont seem to do anything but that

same for the other side too[/QUOTE]

Yeah same here. I ask Obama supporters why they like him and they give me some bullpoop, vague response. Same for McCain supporters.



[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814354]except mccain's planning on reforming the government and fixing spending issues where obama's just planning on increasing taxes and spending.[/QUOTE]

I wish I had a dime every time a president said that. Face it, everything candidates say is just to make you feel good until they get into the white house. They follow up on some things, but do you really think they're going to change the power structure that got them there and retains their own power in the first place?

not all

I'm reading The Art of War right now and I just keep going like "omg Bush screwed up so bad" as I read it. It pretty much points out everything that went wrong in the entire war.

We get it. Bush screwed up.

[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814394]just saying yeah your point is pretty hilariously ignorant.

[B]if you were to do some historical research, you might find that increased military spending SAVED US FROM THE GREAT DEPRESSION.[/B][/QUOTE]

Thats actually one of the biggest myths ever.

FDR's social reforms started to finally kick in and work around WW2, thats all. Of course WW2 helped, but it didn't end the depression by itself. All WW2 did was solve unemployment, but that was also because over 11 million men were drafted and most were sent overseas, freeing up a lot of jobs.






As for Bush, yes, he's a ****ing terrible President, but I think he gets more stuff blame don him than he actually deserves. A lot of things that went wrong had to do with poor cabinet choices.

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;16814676]Thats actually one of the biggest myths ever.

FDR's social reforms started to finally kick in and work around WW2, thats all. Of course WW2 helped, but it didn't end the depression by itself. All WW2 did was solve unemployment, but that was also because over 11 million men were drafted and most were sent overseas, freeing up a lot of jobs.






As for Bush, yes, he's a ****ing terrible President, but I think he gets more stuff blame don him than he actually deserves. A lot of things that went wrong had to do with poor cabinet choices.[/QUOTE]
Top part of post is win.


Well...he chose his cabinet no? SO still his fault...

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;16814683]Well...he chose his cabinet no? SO still his fault...[/QUOTE]

lol oh snap!

I've been listening to Jane Doe on repeat for 34 minutes and didn't realize it.

I like how we technically aren't even in a war.

lol accidental elitery ftw!

[QUOTE=Angmar;16814729]I like how we technically aren't even in a war.[/QUOTE]

It's the War On Terra!!!

No it's "keeping the peace", even though it is a war, as far as I know war has never officially been declared because bush declared "victory" before the time period where a declaration of war was needed to occupy a country.

Yeah he's very sneaky.

so andrew (paraphilia rhythm guitarist/producer) decided hes quitting the band now too :)

ahahah theyre getting pwned so hard

lol

also raccoon that was in my school today:

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I just made some nachos

[I]cooooooooooool[/I]

Watch them call it quits in a week.

[QUOTE=masada;16814858]lol

also raccoon that was in my school today:

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[QUOTE=hismajestythepope;16814856]so andrew (paraphilia rhythm guitarist/producer) decided hes quitting the band now too :)

ahahah theyre getting pwned so hard[/QUOTE]

You aren't in Paraphilia anymore?

They kicked him :(

myspace link

omg maispace drama

Ok so I can't go to the Fest this weekend, does anyone want 1 (just one) pass to the Fest? It's in Gainesville, Florida and features Municipal Waste and a shitton of other awesome bands.

Why can't you go? that's hella lame.

I don't have a ride or someone who would want to go with me, so I'll have to pass.

****ing my car battery is all ****ed so I HAVE to buy a new battery and it makes it so i just cant afford it. I am trying to scrounge up money (aka i am literally picking up all the loose change I own) but idk if it will be enough

My van battery died so I have to charge it ugh!

Which of these are worth seeing (all are free)?

10/30 Suicide Silence/Emmure/Beneath The Massacre/After the Burial/Architects (Clubhouse)
11/03 Maylene & the Sons of Disaster/A Static Lullaby/Showbread/Confide (Clubhouse)
11/03 Moonspell/Danzig/Dimmu Borgir/Winds of Plague/Skeletonwitch (TBA) (Tickets are super scarce, don't get your hopes up)
11/05 Eyes Set to Kill/Before their Eyes/Love Hate Hereo/A Kiss for Jersey/Oceana/Ice Nine Kills (The Rock)
11/07 Iced Earth (Marquee)
11/09 Mudvayne/10 Years/Snot (Marquee)
11/10 Dragonforce/Turisas (Marquee)
11/13 Minus the Bear/27/Annuals (Marquee)
11/18 The Funeral Pyre/Early Graves (Living Room)
11/19 The Funeral Pyre/Early Graves (The Creephouse)
11/23 Shai Hulud (The Sets)
11/24 In Flames/All That Remains/Gojira/36 Crazyfists (Marquee)
11/25 Gwar/Kingdom of Sorrow/Toxic Holocaust (Marquee)
11/26 Gwar/Kingdom of Sorrow/Toxic Holocaust (Rialto)
11/28 The Human Abstract/Dir En Grey (Marquee)
11/29 Soulfly (Marquee)
12/12 Abysmal Dawn/Sothis (Big Fish Pub)
12/16 Job for a Comboy/Hate Eternal/Animosity (Rialto)
2/13 Cradle of Filth (Marquee)

11/03 Maylene & the Sons of Disaster/A Static Lullaby/Showbread/Confide (Clubhouse)
11/13 Minus the Bear/27/Annuals (Marquee)
11/23 Shai Hulud (The Sets)

danzig gwar and toxic holocaust are the least gay, apparently TH is great live and so is GWAR

GWAR should be mandatory. The most fun I've had at a concert.

wow you guys are overly picky me thinks...these are free shows ^_^

Alternately, I want to start working with more labels too, who else is a good metal label besides:
Roadrunner
Relapse
Metal Blade
Prosthetic
SPV
Nuclear Blast
Century
Napalm
Willow Tip
Bit Riot
Moribund
Volcom
Poison Tree
SMC

gwar is pretty terrible, regardless of how cool their live shows are supposed to be.

Earache has had some good stuff.

[QUOTE=Angmar;16815222]Earache has had some good stuff.[/QUOTE]

cool, will look into.

Oh also add eyeball to that list.


Gwar is supposed to be so much fun live who cares if the music is bad?