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Glitterati 04-10-2005 07:11 PM

I saw an ad in Rolling Stone for an eight-disc Grateful Dead box set. I think I'm going to download more of their stuff, but I might just go for it.

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]That's why I made sure I said bands, not artists. .[/QUOTE]

Isn't someone sneaky:eek:.

Badmoon 04-10-2005 07:11 PM

[QUOTE]And I've never quite figured out whether The Hendrix Experience is considered American or British.[/QUOTE]

The band centers around an American artist.

[QUOTE] So you could argue that he was from Britan or America.[/QUOTE]

He was born in America. His roots are in America; Jimi Hendrix is American.

Walrus Gumboot 04-10-2005 07:13 PM

[QUOTE=jpjrulestheworld]Yea, it took me awhile to get into them too. The odd thing is the first Dead album I liked was Dylan & The Dead, but most people strongly dislike that albulm.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's one of the few that I was forced to listen to for hours at a time when I was a small child, along with dark side of the moon, Old and in the way's "Breakdown" and countless Neil Young albums

lunch998 04-10-2005 07:13 PM

[QUOTE=Badmoon]The band centers around an American artist.



He was born in America. His roots are in American; Jimi Hendrix is American.[/QUOTE]

Yea but Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell are British.

/Devil's advocate for no reason.

pigonthewing82 04-10-2005 07:16 PM

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]I never liked them until a few months ago when I started to like them more and more till the point where I was fighting myself not to become a deadhead, but alas, I gave up. I guess I am a deadhead in training now[/QUOTE]

Yeah once you start down the Deadhead path there is no fighting it. Soon you will be like me who is starting a collection of all the Dead one can find. Since I posted that I was starting my collection I've picked up Dicks Picks 20, they do a pretty good cover of Johnny B Goode.

Badmoon 04-10-2005 07:17 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Yea but Noel Redding and Mitch Mitchell are British.

/Devil's advocate for no reason.[/QUOTE]

Levon Helm of The Band is American, but The Band is mostly Canadian. Jimi's importance overshadows Reddings and Mitchel's greatly. He is American, they are English.

/hopes that made sense

lunch998 04-10-2005 07:29 PM

[QUOTE=Badmoon]Levon Helm of The Band is American, but The Band is mostly Canadian. Jimi's importance overshadows Reddings and Mitchel's greatly. He is American, they are English.

/hopes that made sense[/QUOTE]

Your analogy to The Band makes no sense, because you're saying majority of The Band is Canadian, therefore they are considered Canadian. But the majority of The Jimi Hendrix Experience is British, but you argue that they are American.

I understand in terms of importance that Jimi>Noel+Mitch.

Against Miik! 04-10-2005 07:32 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Your analogy to The Band makes no sense, because you're saying majority of The Band is Canadian, therefore they are considered Canadian. But the majority of The Jimi Hendrix Experience is British, but you argue that they are American.

I understand in terms of importance that Jimi>Noel+Mitch.[/QUOTE]

There is a difference though. Hendrix is essentially a solo artist. He could still be jimi hendrix with any group of musicians. The are truely...well, a band. So it is different.

Walrus Gumboot 04-10-2005 07:32 PM

Canadian=American

Almost culturally identical, except for that whole eh? vs huh? thing

thickasabrick 04-10-2005 07:37 PM

Well let me ask you guys a question...

Is AC/DC classified as a Scottish band or an Australian band? Because tons of places call them an Australian band, or use the term Aussie Rock...despite the fact that they are basically all from Scotland, they just moved to Australia.

And for the record, I consider The Band a Canadian band. Canada hasn't produced an excessive amount of really good bands, don't take The Band from us.

pigonthewing82 04-10-2005 07:39 PM

[QUOTE=i am miik]There is a difference though. Hendrix is essentially a solo artist. He could still be jimi hendrix with any group of musicians. The are truely...well, a band. So it is different.[/QUOTE]

Eh it would be good, but I think I would miss that drum line played at the begining of Voodoo Child, I mean Jimi would still be great with out them, but they add so much to the songs, its just overshadowed by Jimi.

ledpoisoning27 04-10-2005 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]Well let me ask you guys a question...

Is AC/DC classified as a Scottish band or an Australian band? Because tons of places call them an Australian band, or use the term Aussie Rock...despite the fact that they are basically all from Scotland, they just moved to Australia.

And for the record, I consider The Band a Canadian band. Canada hasn't produced an excessive amount of really good bands, don't take The Band from us.[/QUOTE]
Canada also has Rush. And they have Beer and hockey, but thats about it.
[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]Canadian=American

Almost culturally identical, except for that whole eh? vs huh? thing[/QUOTE]
Don't forget aboot.

panasonic youth 04-10-2005 08:00 PM

DONT MESS WIT US CANADIANS EH! OR ILL HAVE TO SHOW U EVERYTHING ABOOT US...god bless our frozen land

Badmoon 04-10-2005 08:03 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]Your analogy to The Band makes no sense, because you're saying majority of The Band is Canadian, therefore they are considered Canadian. But the majority of The Jimi Hendrix Experience is British, but you argue that they are American.

I understand in terms of importance that Jimi>Noel+Mitch.[/QUOTE]

I am saying Jimi Hendrix's importance represents the majority of the band. Without him, there would be no Jimi Hendrix Experience. Without Noel Redding or Mitch Mitchell, there would most certainly still be a Jimi Hendrix Experience.

They are kind of his backing band. If Crazy Horse was American, Neil Young and Crazy Horse would still be Canadian. For the main point is Canadian.

[QUOTE]I understand in terms of importance that Jimi>Noel+Mitch.[/QUOTE]

I missed this, but whatever.

pigonthewing82 04-10-2005 08:05 PM

[QUOTE=panasonic youth]DONT MESS WIT US CANADIANS EH! OR ILL HAVE TO SHOW U EVERYTHING ABOOT US...god bless our frozen land[/QUOTE]

Wow thats probally the most threatening comment to come out of Canada in ages.

RockAndRoll 04-10-2005 08:07 PM

bands don't need nationalities.

JonG 04-10-2005 08:09 PM

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Eh it would be good, but I think I would miss that drum line played at the begining of Voodoo Child, I mean Jimi would still be great with out them, but they add so much to the songs, its just overshadowed by Jimi.[/QUOTE]
What about Fire? That song would blow nutsack without drums..

NP : 5D

pigonthewing82 04-10-2005 08:11 PM

[QUOTE=JonG]What about Fire? That song would blow nutsack without drums..

NP : 5D[/QUOTE]

Oh hell yeah I actually think that at times the drums are more complex then the guitar in that song.

RockAndRoll 04-10-2005 08:13 PM

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Oh hell yeah I actually think that at times the drums are more complex then the guitar in that song.[/QUOTE]
that they are, and at times is a major understatement.

MalcolmYoungRock 04-10-2005 08:16 PM

Here's an interesting analogy. Neil Young once stated in a interview that he divides rock and roll into 2 groups: Beatles, and Rolling Stones.

He labeled Crosby, Stills, Nash, & Young, Buffalo Springfield, Stray Gators (on Harvest) as Beatles.

He labeled Pearl Jam, Dylan, Crazy Horse, and the Mynah Birds on the Rolling Stones side.

What bands do you think should go with the Beatles or Rolling Stones categories?

pigonthewing82 04-10-2005 08:18 PM

[QUOTE=RockAndRoll]that they are, and at times is a major understatement.[/QUOTE]

Very true, but I'm not a drum player so I can only tell by what I hear what is complex or not.

Badmoon 04-10-2005 08:18 PM

How does Dylan go under the Rolling Stones?

MalcolmYoungRock 04-10-2005 08:19 PM

[QUOTE=Badmoon]How does Dylan go under the Rolling Stones?[/QUOTE]

I think he means people that were original went under the Rolling Stones.

I'm not sure though.

Badmoon 04-10-2005 08:20 PM

[QUOTE]I think he means people that were original went under the Rolling Stones.[/QUOTE]

Where do you get that from?

Glitterati 04-10-2005 08:20 PM

Holy crap....tha Arethra Franklin cover of [I]The Weight [/I] was awesome.

MalcolmYoungRock 04-10-2005 08:23 PM

[QUOTE=Badmoon]Where do you get that from?[/QUOTE]

Got it from the book "Shakey" by Jimmy McDonough.

Badmoon 04-10-2005 08:26 PM

[QUOTE=MalcolmYoungRock]Got it from the book "Shakey" by Jimmy McDonough.[/QUOTE]

I mean your assumption, unless that is what you're talking about.

RockAndRoll 04-10-2005 08:29 PM

[QUOTE=Badmoon]How does Dylan go under the Rolling Stones?[/QUOTE]
Ya I don't really understand that either.

pigonthewing82 04-10-2005 08:29 PM

[QUOTE=Badmoon]How does Dylan go under the Rolling Stones?[/QUOTE]

Depending on when he made the comment I can see how that could work, I mean early in his career he and the Rolling Stones were some of the biggest rebles out there.

Here are a few who I think could go under the Beatles: Pink Floyd King Crimson Cream

And bands that go under the Rolling Stones: Led Zep, Jimi Hendrix, The Who (though IMO the Who go under no band, they go under the Who)

Badmoon 04-10-2005 08:38 PM

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Depending on when he made the comment I can see how that could work, I mean early in his career he and the Rolling Stones were some of the biggest rebles out there.

Here are a few who I think could go under the Beatles: Pink Floyd King Crimson Cream

And bands that go under the Rolling Stones: Led Zep, Jimi Hendrix, The Who (though IMO the Who go under no band, they go under the Who)[/QUOTE]

Then how is Crazy Horse rebelous. Plus Buffalo Springfield was a rebelous band; they were politically active. But they get put under The Beatles category. Plus if that were true, John Lennon would be put under the Rolling Stone category, which isn't right.

I was thinking that it was influence, but that would be knocked off due to the Bob Dylan placement.

Then I figured it is genre; Beatles: Pop, Rolling Stones: Blues. But the Bob Dylan comment once again through that idea out.


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