[QUOTE=Wotan;15194660]That's nothing more than opinion.
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I have little doubt there's reseach out there about the effects of internet and phone sociality versus in person sociality. If you really want me to dig up some studies I will.

Or I could even just get back to you Tuesday after my sociology class I'm sure my professor could recommend me some good reading.

Doesn't help your social situation any, does it?

EDIT: To Josh obviously

In almost all ways that you look at it, any source of the internet doesn't promote a social enviornment. Even in a more social game you're still not embracing yourself to society because essentially you're not interacting with a human, you're communicating with another aspect of the internet.

You also don't get the feelings and emotions you get with a human because you have no real communication other than reading the words they type.

[QUOTE=Wotan;15194660]That's nothing more than opinion.[/QUOTE]

no it's definitely not.

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;15194674]In almost all ways that you look at it, any source of the internet doesn't promote a social enviornment. Even in a more social game you're still not embracing yourself to society because essentially you're not interacting with a human, you're communicating with another aspect of the internet.

You also don't get the feelings and emotions you get with a human because you have no real communication other than reading the words they type.[/QUOTE]
Even if you're video chatting it's not as social as in person contact.

Yes, of course.

Well like I said, I don't need people in general to be happy. I'm way past that. I understand what you mean though. There's a girl that i'd do anything to be with right now that lives in Kansas.

[QUOTE=Deth;15194672]Doesn't help your social situation any, does it?

EDIT: To Josh obviously[/QUOTE]

It makes it better.

Well we all want to communicate and be with others because it's human nature, and I haven't yet gained up enough misanthropy to become anti-social, haha.

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;15194722]Well we all want to communicate and be with others because it's human nature, and I haven't yet gained up enough misanthropy to become anti-social, haha.[/QUOTE]

Oh man I have. It's pretty simple.

[QUOTE=Wotan;15194714]
It makes it better.[/QUOTE]

Kay, I see the problem right there. If you don't, there are some MAJOR issues.

[QUOTE=Deth;15194739]Kay, I see the problem right there. If you don't, there are some MAJOR issues.[/QUOTE]

How many times do I have to say it, i'm just flat out not in need of a lot of social interaction. I am perfectly fine just being alone.

[QUOTE=Deth;15194739]Kay, I see the problem right there. If you don't, there are some MAJOR issues.[/QUOTE]

it seems wotan isn't mature enough to deal with people he doesn't like (and rejection, it seems). he'd rather stay in his room his entire life than risk talking to someone who he might not get along with.

[QUOTE=Wotan;15194714]Well like I said, I don't need people in general to be happy. I'm way past that. I understand what you mean though. There's a girl that i'd do anything to be with right now that lives in Kansas.
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I'm not questioning your happiness being disjoint from society I despise people probably even more than you. I'm disputing your claim to be as social as a "normal" person. Because this is a fallacy. It's a fallacy regardless of whether or not you need to be social to be happy.

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15194756]I'm not questioning your happiness being disjoint from society I despise people probably even more than you. I'm disputing your claim to be as social as a "normal" person. Because this is a fallacy. It's a fallacy regardless of whether or not you need to be social to be happy.[/QUOTE]

Whoa, hold on. I never said I was as social as a normal person. I'm far from it and have no reason to lie.

@Illmatic: Haha, i'm a very likeable person in real life and am nice to everyone I meet. Don't try the angry nerd approach on me.

[QUOTE=Wotan;15194766]Whoa, hold on. I never said I was as social as a normal person. I'm far from it and have no reason to lie.
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quoth you: Well I can't say much as i'm fairly agoraphobic and pretty much a teenage hermit, but i'm extremely content with a lack of real friends or friends in general. I fair very well by myself. The thing is though, talking/working with others is always the same even if done in different ways.


If you're not a hermit you sort of imply you're normally social. I forgot the mainthing I took dispute with though was that talking is always the same. Socialization is not the same online.

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15194792]quoth you: Well I can't say much as i'm fairly agoraphobic and pretty much a teenage hermit, but i'm extremely content with a lack of real friends or friends in general. I fair very well by myself. The thing is though, talking/working with others is always the same even if done in different ways.


If you're not a hermit you sort of imply you're normally social. I forgot the mainthing I took dispute with though was that talking is always the same. Socialization is not the same online.[/QUOTE]

I see. What I meant was that it's still socializing. That's it.

It is still socializing but it's not the only social interaction humans need.

I can't imagine raising a kid solely through internet interaction would produce a "normal" child.

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15194822]It is still socializing but it's not the only social interaction humans need.

I can't imagine raising a kid solely through internet interaction would produce a "normal" child.[/QUOTE]

I guess.

Where are you going with that?

[QUOTE=Wotan;15194829]I guess.

Where are you going with that?[/QUOTE]
That internet socialization is not as fulfilling to modern human needs as in person socialization is.

It is on a different level. Me socializing in real like with my parents and a few friends completely fulfills me in a physically face to face way.

Oh don't get me wrong, I think the anonymity of internet socialization covers an entire aspect of human socialization that wasn't ever covered in the past.

If you spend time with family and friends close to daily I don't see why it wouldn't. But if you spent a year in your basement you'd start to feel that lack of human interaction (probably long before a year was up).

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15194877]
If you spend time with family and friends close to daily I don't see why it wouldn't. But if you spent a year in your basement you'd start to feel that lack of human interaction (probably long before a year was up).[/QUOTE]

I generally only see one friend on a frequent basis and that's normally 3-4 times a month. It's good enough.

But you also have family.

I think when you move out you'll find you need to spend more time with friends.

I doubt it, honestly.

That's because you've never lived alone so you take the social interaction inherent in living with someone for granted.

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution;15194950]That's because you've never lived alone so you take the social interaction inherent in living with someone for granted.[/QUOTE]

I've been along for some time periods, though not for a permanent block of time. I still think if I lived alone i'd only hang out with family/friends 4 or 5 times a month.

Being alone for a long time is ok it's when you're perpetually alone that you seek humanity.

But bear in mind that shopping, school, work all add sociality to life so if you're engaging in these activities it's possible you're correct.

Yeah, I agree with that.

sup dogs

np: bone thugs - hell sent

Sad.