[QUOTE=The Depressed]It's a play on words, the things that Portnoy enjoyed/has been influenced by in his life, hence -

[url]http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php[/url]

Down near the bottom, all the lyrics and their origins.[/QUOTE]

very interessting stuff, thanks for this :thumb:

[QUOTE=Mizuzack]Dream Theater are very talented, but I just don't like the singer.[/QUOTE]

I don't like the singer that much, either, but it grows on you after a while. I don't think any other singer would fit with their music...

I love James' vocals
I always did, from the first time I heard them

[QUOTE=The Depressed]It's a play on words, the things that Portnoy enjoyed/has been influenced by in his life, hence -

[url]http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php[/url]

Down near the bottom, all the lyrics and their origins.[/QUOTE]

omg that's good. thanks, but on Never Enough, they clearly ripp off Muse's Hysteria. even the vocal part has Ballamy written all over it. Portnoy even admitted that Absolution was his favorite album at the time. silly

[QUOTE=The Depressed]
[url]http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php[/url]

Down near the bottom, all the lyrics and their origins.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the link. It tells alot about the album. I dont have time to read the whole thing now, so i'll just bookmark it.

wow, that's going to take me a long time to read.

on a different note, has anyone heard about a play/musical about the SFAM album. My brother told me a few weeks ago and I didn't know if he was lying or not.

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]wow, that's going to take me a long time to read.

on a different note, has anyone heard about a play/musical about the SFAM album. My brother told me a few weeks ago and I didn't know if he was lying or not.[/QUOTE]


it's true, there will be two shows, but only in the states :upset:

[QUOTE=the2stranger]it's true, there will be two shows, but only in the states :upset:[/QUOTE]


It's gonna blow. Altough I am quite eager to see if they can pull it off.

is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?

[QUOTE=bodger]is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?[/QUOTE]

There are plenty more genres still around other than death metal. Don't listen to death metal if you don't like it.

And with other bands sounding like Dream Theater...well, Dream Theater are prog, so try to get into other prog bands.

Dream Theater - Metropolis pt. 1 and Rush - YYZ got me into prog.

quite a lot of underground death metal is prog/technical anyway. i like death metal because you get a lot of good drummers, but some of the vocals like early Cannibal Corpse are funny.

[QUOTE=bodger]is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?[/QUOTE]
You clearly know nothing about death metal.

[QUOTE=bodger]is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?[/QUOTE]

please note that death metal is a genre that has a lot of skilled and studied musicians.

just because you don't appreciate it, doesn''t mean it's bad, or that it will be the downlfall of metal.

a top of genres with most skill:

Classical
Jazz
Progressive metal
(technical) Death metal

you could argue to fit Blues in there too

[QUOTE=bodger]is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?[/QUOTE]

Although I'm no fan of Death Metal, you shouldn't dismiss a genre like that. Also, I'd recomend learning how to type...

[QUOTE=bodger]is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?[/QUOTE]
i disagree :)

that is, the death metal part. i still think DT are talented, but there are many more bands you havent heard of that are as talented as them.

Jazz is sometimes technical but thats if its learned
it kind of defeats the point though because its really all about improviseation what happens in Jazz sometimes is technical but it depends on what there feeling i think its a insult to Jazz to say it has the most skill when alot of it happens by accident.......
Classical is a hard one some of it i don't think merits much skill because its about following set rules and can be primitive because of the lack of instruments of the time
But on the contrary Classical composers such as Schubert broke the rules and strove for something unique as well as being very technical
i think prog is joint 1 with classical maybe
Classical has more technical note choice
but progs time sigs and ignorance of key sigs (and still sounding good) also deserve merit
guess we'll never know........

[QUOTE=the2stranger] a top of genres with most skill:

Classical
Jazz
Progressive metal
(technical) Death metal

you could argue to fit Blues in there too[/QUOTE]

Some blues definitely belongs in there. I wish I could play like SRV (I consider him blues, although some don't).

I just got Falling into infinity

It's great at first listen, lines in the sand is incredible,

anyone have when dream and day unite?
I can't find a copy, I have all DT's studio albums bar that one, also would you recommend me a live album?
as I have always balked at the price of LATB.

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]I just got Falling into infinity

It's great at first listen, lines in the sand is incredible,

anyone have when dream and day unite?
I can't find a copy, I have all DT's studio albums bar that one, also would you recommend me a live album?
as I have always balked at the price of LATB.[/QUOTE]

Once in a Livetime is good, but it costs about the same as Live at Budokon. I like Budokon better though.

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]I just got Falling into infinity

It's great at first listen, lines in the sand is incredible,

anyone have when dream and day unite?
I can't find a copy, I have all DT's studio albums bar that one, also would you recommend me a live album?
as I have always balked at the price of LATB.[/QUOTE]
I've got a copy of it, I can send it to you sometime if you like.

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]I just got Falling into infinity

It's great at first listen, lines in the sand is incredible,

anyone have when dream and day unite?
I can't find a copy, I have all DT's studio albums bar that one, also would you recommend me a live album?
as I have always balked at the price of LATB.[/QUOTE]

Definitly Live Scenes in New York. The setlist is almost perfect.

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]I've got a copy of it, I can send it to you sometime if you like.[/QUOTE]
Cheers man, I'm going to get all the live albums eventually, I might well get live at the marquee for it's heavily I&W themed set.

Do we have a bassist in here who can do the solo in Metropolis Pt. 1?

Because if we do, help me out!

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Cheers man, I'm going to get all the live albums eventually, I might well get live at the marquee for it's heavily I&W themed set.[/QUOTE]
I meant WDADU by the way. What's your AIM?

[QUOTE=MAthiAS]I meant WDADU by the way. What's your AIM?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I know you did... :p

LordOllie6

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Yeah, I know you did... :p

LordOllie6[/QUOTE]
Now copying, AIM's Zephyr2k3.

In this thread is there a post where someone has explained the whole 'Metropolis Pt. 2 (Scenes From A Memory)' saga????

can anyone play instrumedly, i cant memorize the **** thing cuz its so random and everythings different

hey Jred250. got your message.

sure we'd love to do an interview via email. it would be best though if we could do it when we get back in late october as we're swamped with europe stuff right now. is that ok?

as far as bands, i have a lot of non-metal stuff to recommend: Ben Harper, Lyle Lovett, The Pogues, North Mississippi All-Stars to name a few. i try to be well rounded, you know?

I'm writing Mike Portnoy from DT tonite. i'll tell him you say hi!

talk soon, jaymz

An e-mail I recieved from BTallica a day or so ago.

Any questions for Portnoy you need answers to??? I will bring them up in the interview Thanks

[QUOTE=kidthatplaysguitar91]can anyone play instrumedly, i cant memorize the **** thing cuz its so random and everythings different[/QUOTE]

wow, i find it really easy to memorise the instumedly, i just can't play it. I wouldnt be able to play it in about 10 years more of guitar playing probably. can you actually play all the different sections but not all together.