[QUOTE=Aakon_Keetreh;17732942]whats the matrix then? thats original. or at least the idea itself

btw im really high. **** ya[/QUOTE]

the matrix takes a lot of cues from elsewhere, both stylistically and in theme

it was not an anomaly that just appeared in 1999

[QUOTE=Meatplow;17732949]the matrix takes a lot of cues from elsewhere, both stylistically and in theme

it was not an anomaly that just appeared in 1999[/QUOTE]

but if everything is copied off of something else HOW DID STUFF APPEAR IN THE FIRST PLACE

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elim post

philip k dick wrote it

philip k dick wrote nothing but immature pathetic nonsense

huh

im going to read do androids dream etc soon

I really liked Philip K. Dick's [i]A Maze of Death[/i]

[QUOTE=illmitch;17732951]but if everything is copied off of something else HOW DID STUFF APPEAR IN THE FIRST PLACE

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natural selection

also Scanners was the work of a hack

A HACK

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17732955]philip k dick wrote nothing but immature pathetic nonsense[/QUOTE]

lol you said dick

[QUOTE=AA-12;17732959]im going to read do androids dream etc soon[/QUOTE]
its like an awkward science fiction story a twelve year old would write

hate if you want but the man pretty much invented every sci fi topic/cliche/idea/plot ever

you calling people awkward and immature is also funny let it be noted

asimov, stanislaw lem

[quote=Nepenthe;17732966]hate if you want but the man pretty much invented every sci fi topic/cliche/idea/plot ever

you calling people awkward is also funny let it be noted[/quote]

i was going to say something along these lines but jaundice is my brosef

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;17732966]hate if you want but the man pretty much invented every sci fi topic/cliche/idea/plot ever

you calling people awkward and immature is also funny let it be noted[/QUOTE]

i never once called any one awkward and immature. nice try tho.

also lets not forget the influential work of L. Ron Hubbard

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asimov isnt really as influential if you ask me. you can honestly draw parallels to a dick story from ANY sci fi work from the past 40 years.

Dick is the Kerouac of science fiction

oooh look at me i'm an amphetamine addict my mind moves too fast for me to put any thought into my fiction just hurry up and get the idea down in the sloppiest way possible and send it off to the press without revisions

i'm not going to doubt you there

all three are pretty big juggernauts the sci-fi world owes a lot to though

hpl is as far into scifi as i go

yeah fantasy is a much more intricate and exciting genre

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hey they are both wearing virtually the same hat what gives

idk if anthony is being wry and witty but i like me some fantasy

dragonlance george rr martin tolkien wheel of time and eddings yeeeeah nigga

i was being wry and witty

figured you were

all i really read nowadays is the aeneid in latin anyhow

what do you freaks know about literature

i've probably written more books than any one of you has read

and most of them were [I]complex[/I]

fantasy is one of the most cliche ridden genres ever but i'll be damned if I don't like that formula

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"No sir I do not snort cocaine from the buttocks of 8 year old ethnic boys on my boat"

[QUOTE=Jaundice;17732990]what do you freaks know about literature

i've probably written more books than any one of you has read

and most of them were [I]complex[/I][/QUOTE]

nigga i BEEN read books

you couldnt pay me any amount of money to read through an entire jaundice book

and for the record, cormac mccarthy is by and far the greatest author ever

ive read great works of fiction but generally i get more pleasure reading fantasy and lovecraft than anything else

lovecraft is #2. mccarthy is just amazing. blood meridian is the greatest piece of literature ever graced upon paper.

ill have to give him a good read

his style is incredible. its like reading forum posts by somebody who actually has something interesting to say, theres no punctuation, sentences can be an entire paragraph long, and theres no quotations or 'he said' and 'she said's. sounds like itd be a chore (or bore) to read but my god is it ever the opposite.

**** tolkien, nobody describes landscapes better than mccarthy

its fantasy, but have you read the song of ice and fire series

**** is seriously amazing, george r r martin is (at least in terms of construction of plot) one of the best authors ive ever read

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;17732996]you couldnt pay me any amount of money to read through an entire jaundice book[/QUOTE]

:lol:

i don't think the average person could handle a jaundice book , it's like a jaundice post but a thousand times worse

and yeah pretty sure 120 Days of Sodom is the best piece ever written, this is established

[QUOTE=illmitch;17733010]its fantasy, but have you read the song of ice and fire series

**** is seriously amazing, george r r martin is (at least in terms of construction of plot) one of the best authors ive ever read[/QUOTE]

i've been chipping away at the graphic novel I downloaded ages back

its really good

i think Haz is the only one here who can claim to have read Jaundice fiction

that was for school though so it was kind of like a pop single to get airplay

i'm what you might call a camp appreciator though I imagine some other people may have been a little more critical

no the only fantasy ive ever read is salvatore and a few random dragonlance books when i was like 11. tried to read tolkien but i just cannot stand the constant pointless allusions. my main gripe with fantasy is how focused on, like you said about that guy, plot and the construction of plot. its all about yknow 'whats going on' or what the main event of action is and follows such contrived structures.

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i think this is a pretty good deconstruction of the worst of fantasy cliches even if it is a little long and written by a complete snob