fuck forgot how good Messiah is, why did you have to link me to that video the other day Chris

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-prVZR5jAg[/url]

might be another one for your list chris

[url]http://voxinsana.blogspot.com/2009/06/2nd-communication-my-chromosomal-friend.html[/url]

this isn't bad

eww early 3D rendering

oh yes

I sort of like that blocky analogue sound sometimes though

yes me to buddy its great

[url]http://crispynuggets.blogspot.com/2009/04/3-miles-from-here-heroes-until-then-7.html[/url]

love the wealth of EBM and New Wave artists that only ever released one single

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88hZBOmNnNU[/url]

spacesynth rules

7 From Life is a pretty good dark ambient/noise project in the vein of Maurizio Bianchi

Zewizz has a few side projects that weren't on your list too, Chris

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Zewizz[/url]

[quote]Zewizz admits that drugs played a large role in his life from the age of 14. During the 1990s he was addicted to heroin and by 2001 his music career had all but stopped because of this addiction. According to himself he was able to get clean in 2004 through use of "magick". Zewizz claims, "I had to use magick to break the bonds that drugs had on me. It waz part ov my being. Drugs became my world and everything in it. Only magick waz strong enough to focus my will and to direct my will into power."[/quote]

cool

been listening to deathprod like nuts, but cant find any vinyl to buy except a remix 10"

sucks the label only releases it on CD

yeah i've been wanting to get a vinyl and cassette deck set-up for ages, so much stuff I either can't find online or in terrible quality

have you heard 23 skidoo kitsch I remember you looking for post-punk a while back

[I]We're disposable teens
We're disposable teens
We're disposable!!![/I]

lol I remember when Marylin Manson was actually considered "dangerous" and a "moral threat" back in the 90s. Now he is so tame.




Anyways, I may be driving down to NYC in December to see Rammstein with some friends.

Nah I mean his last couple albums were.

Well I mean he was basically blamed for tons of things which was just hilarious. People love to throw blame where it doesn't belong.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hGXqugSdEc[/url]

haujobb heil

[QUOTE=APirate;18282370]the album essentially sounds how the 3D looks

you know like in the 80s when people always tried to be ahead of their time but kind of failed[/QUOTE]

read a book called [I]Software[/I] by Rudy Rucker, written 1987

makes a reference to "memory RNA" at one point

I lulled

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;18286877]Well I mean he was basically blamed for tons of things which was just hilarious. People love to throw blame where it doesn't belong.[/QUOTE]

"What I'm saying is that how big something is matters. How it is portrayed, matters. If it reaches a certain level of influence and is ingrained into the culture, then yes, I think it can have negative outcomes."

Mr. Ron talking about the deleterious effects of jungle ****** music

it's ok when Marilyn Manson does it because he's white

here's some hip hop rap music

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_RbcQVM_k0[/url]

u mad?

lol wait dude, do you have some sort of file with what I say here, because if so that is disturbing.


There is a difference. Manson cannot be blamed for what happened at Columbine because those kids were emotionally disturbed. Just as a rapper cannot be directly blamed for some wannabe gangster emulates their violent lyrics. People who are willing to do such things would probably have done them regardless of the music. It was the kid's fault, not Manson's. Sure, Manson's music probably shaped part of their outlook since music in general does that anyways in varying degrees (not in every instance, though). However, [B]they themselves[/B] and probably their parents are ultimately responsible for their actions.

Rap culture and even metal culture, in certain situations is more or less indirectly responsible for certain culture attitudes since, as I have said before, it is massively popular in the mainstream and it's messages are readily available to be emulated. It is cool to emulate. Different people respond differently to music, since it [I]is[/I] a powerful medium of expression. Now, I'm not saying rap is [I]directly[/I] responsible for what people do, but it only takes a few minutes to look at how the culture does influence certain attitudes. I will say the [I]same[/I] thing for metal. Unstable people who listen to violent metal will probably also be effected in negative ways as well. So when I say people were unjustly putting the blame on Manson, I mean that he cannot be blamed 100% for what those kids did. Neither can you put 100% of the blame on more violent rap music. If you're willing to splatter your classmates across the gymnasium and hurl pipe bombs in the library, there are already serious underlying factors that made you do those things that do not [I]necessarily [/I]involve what you listen to.

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;18287496]lol wait dude, do you have some sort of file with what I say here, because if so that is disturbing.[/quote]

no I just have a beartrap memory

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;18287496]Rap culture and even metal culture, in certain situations is more or less indirectly responsible for certain culture attitudes[/QUOTE]
[list=1][*]show evidence for this claim[*]why do you always whinge about hip hop ****** culture but never about white metal bands[/list]

You seriously want evidence if music can shape subcultures?


really?



wut

Well that goes without saying

What I want evidence for is the claim that it can have pervasive negative effects

I will remind you at this juncture that acting incredulous in the face of such a request is called:

[url]http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html[/url]

If a subculture is centered around or incorporates attitudes/ideals that can result in negative outcomes to an unbalanced person, then that culture breeds negative effects on that person. This is like, sociology 101. Subcultures are an[I] identity[/I] for a lot of people, after all.




But really, lets not fuck up this thread because we both know we're just going to butt heads for pages.

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;18287524]This is like, sociology 101.[/QUOTE]

A-ha

The "every schoolboy knows" fallacy

Sorry I wanted real statistics

In any case

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccuZ-ivf6IQ[/url]

[url]http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.1995.tb00287.x/abstract[/url]


But I'm done here. Happy Thanksgiving. :)

"These findings suggest that misogynous music facilitates sexually aggressive behavior and support the relationship between cognitive distortions and sexual aggression."

well damn, that's almost as solid as Newton's laws

ps thanksgiving is gay who would celebrate the inception of a genocidal invasion like that jeez

also

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA6kVw8O1cE[/url]

woo Laserdance

[QUOTE=Brown Bacterial Paste II;18287506]show evidence for this claim[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLDhISoln64[/url]

so Peter "Sleazy" Christopherson died

[url]http://www.nme.com/news/throbbing-gristle/54012[/url]

That sucks.


Anyone into Cabaret Voltaire? Whats a good album to start with?

[url]http://brainwashed.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8519&Itemid=95[/url]

an in memorium thing of him

[I]Micro-Phonies[/I] is my favourite CV, get[I] Mix-Up, 2x4, Red Mecca[/I] and [I]International Language[/I] at some point too

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtGPFwrZ6Y[/url]

why

why

describe this cultivated mind

not to mention the sheer deviancy of 60's bubblegum pop acts and Martin Denny

Someday I'll take you to Disneyland

[url]http://www.last.fm/user/Realtalkinator[/url]

now that I've figured out how to scrobble jewtube I'm back, I'm back, I'm back, I'm Hitler

[QUOTE=Meatplow;18287868]Someday I'll take you to Disneyland[/QUOTE]

ill buy you a pair of mouse ears

did you listen to any of those power electronics releases Jon

[QUOTE=Brown Bacterial Paste II;18288342][url]http://www.last.fm/user/Realtalkinator[/url]

now that I've figured out how to scrobble jewtube I'm back, I'm back, I'm back, I'm Hitler[/QUOTE]

the sound compression on there sucks balls though. how does the tagging work must be a nightmare

getting the new Death In June album, comes with a second CD called [I]Lounge Corps[/I] which is old songs recorded in modern times

wow [I]Peaceful Snow [/I]is a pile of shit

imagine every Douglas P. lyrical cliche set to solo piano music. I suppose the album art was a fair indicator, lol

[QUOTE=Meatplow;18288732]the sound compression on there sucks balls though[/quote]

great place to listen to spacesynth though

[QUOTE=Meatplow;18288732]how does the tagging work must be a nightmare[/QUOTE]

it's only a bit of a hassle

I have a file that looks like this:
[indent]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fziTZ3m-khE: {artist: And One, length: 305, title: Panzermensch}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EkM8rPcMGE: {artist: Anosphere, length: 309, title: Lasernights at Your Planet}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0bJvq861s4: {artist: Area 51, length: 320, title: End of Line}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2HpR-eEPgk: {artist: Corporation of One, length: 360, title: The Real Life}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olU40fxAXZs: {artist: DAF, length: 240, title: Der Mussolini}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8cEC-g0CGk: {artist: "Friedrich Schäfer", length: 169, title: "Das Fallschirmjägerlied"}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FijBB73oRfg: {artist: Frozen Plasma, length: 276, title: Forgotten Earth}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz3Kk12zDe8: {artist: Grendel, length: 228, title: Harsh Generation}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1pNgYV1XWo: {artist: Jean-Michel Jarre, length: 162, title: Fresh News}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F93bypsXC7k: {artist: Laserdance, length: 374, title: Battle Cry (Remix)}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHeP980Y9EI: {artist: Laserdance, length: 410, title: Fear (Remix)}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGAhSIJat78: {artist: Laserdance, length: 256, title: Goody's Return}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8t5rAIV3WY: {artist: Liaisons Dangereuses, length: 304, title: "Los niños del parque"}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIpk7x0oGzQ: {artist: Macrocosm, length: 398, title: Lightyears to Go}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EETyHUHMh-w: {artist: Nostromo Dept., length: 342, title: Evolution}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDKkRSUrTd8: {artist: Skinny Puppy, length: 237, title: Dig It}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbMiMRjHmxg: {artist: Skinny Puppy, length: 457, title: Testure}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u07F8jMH_VY: {artist: Skinny Puppy, length: 375, title: Worlock}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpyUa2R6R9w: {artist: Symbiotic Faith, length: 270, title: Synthetic Unknown Frequence}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16l2FXTKLIY: {artist: Syntech, length: 337, title: Soundly Computed}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuVwanLQDcY: {artist: Tragic Error, length: 293, title: Tanzen (instrumental version)}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcsyAaXKcz0: {artist: Truart, length: 277, title: Volkssturm II}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pejkQMNxdg: {artist: Vangelis with Stina Nordenstam, length: 472, title: Ask the Mountains}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dA3cpWDi8A: {artist: Velvet Acid Christ, length: 343, title: Ghost in the Circuit}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJtx7tBTgwo: {artist: Velvet Acid Christ, length: 320, title: Rain for 27 Days}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erFJGO50ba8: {artist: X-Fusion, length: 241, title: Leave No Seed}[/indent]
then I have a script that I can paste a jewtube url into and if it's in that database it will scrobble it

I do have to enter these data manually at first but as the data grow it will become a simple matter of copypastaing the url and hitting "run"

I see

seems like more dedication than I am willing to offer though