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Lord Abortion 10-26-2005 12:22 PM

I just got live scenes from new york on DVD for £8.99 :D

the2stranger 10-26-2005 12:38 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]I just got live scenes from new york on DVD for £8.99 :D[/QUOTE]

good
the normal cd still costs 21€(!) in my area :(

Triangle 10-26-2005 01:10 PM

[QUOTE=nowitzki]Words cannot do justice the shows I witnessed Monday and Tuesday night.

Best shows ever, no question.

I might post a full review later, don't have time right now.[/QUOTE]
They were mindblowing weren't they. :p Learning To Live live = omfg :eek:

Jev 10-26-2005 01:11 PM

[QUOTE=the2stranger]good
the normal cd still costs 21€(!) in my area :([/QUOTE]
Yeah the Euro's yet to enslave us here :cool:

GenuineImitation 10-26-2005 02:05 PM

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]Tonight (second London show). Me bro said they played a song off every album last night which would be cool at Wolverhampton.

Haha, I'm watching the making of TOT, and it's awsome. JR hits the last note of the album after ITNOG with his nose. It makes me laugh every time....ahhhh....Rudess, what a guy.[/QUOTE]


Can you send it to me please?

My AIM is rock15guitarist

Lord Abortion 10-26-2005 02:11 PM

I'm sitting here thinking of reasons why I'm not going to see them...

I have none- I suck:(

shamed-angel 10-26-2005 02:21 PM

Aww bless... You can have my memory :)

A quick topic for people to discuss. if you could see Dream Theater perform a cover of any album in it's entirety at a gig, which album would it be?
Mine is definately In The Court of The Crimson King by King Crimson.

Lord Abortion 10-26-2005 02:22 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]Aww bless... You can have my memory :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to shamed-angel again.[/QUOTE]
Blast it!

Uh... Something wicked this way comes by Iced earth.

shamed-angel 10-26-2005 02:23 PM

You're a really nice guy. Albeit a bit stupid for not seeing DT, you could at least HAVE a reason not to go. :p

GenuineImitation 10-26-2005 02:24 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]Aww bless... You can have my memory :)

A quick topic for people to discuss. if you could see Dream Theater perform a cover of any album in it's entirety at a gig, which album would it be?
Mine is definately In The Court of The Crimson King by King Crimson.[/QUOTE]


Mine would either be In the Court of The Crimson King, 2112, The Wall or The Number of the Beast.

shamed-angel 10-26-2005 02:25 PM

They did TNOTB a while back. [url]www.ytsejamrecords.com[/url] has it on sale.

GenuineImitation 10-26-2005 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]They did TNOTB a while back. [url]www.ytsejamrecords.com[/url] has it on sale.[/QUOTE]


I know, I just want to see them do it in person.

Lord Abortion 10-26-2005 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]You're a really nice guy. Albeit a bit stupid for not seeing DT, you could at least HAVE a reason not to go. :p[/QUOTE]
I kinda do, I would find it difficult to get to Wolverhampton, I have been to alot of gigs this year and I'm short of cash, and my lack of people to go with but I know in my heart of hearts I could have gone if I had really made the effort.

Reywas 10-26-2005 02:30 PM

I would love seeing Dream Theater do some Opeth songs live.James the Growler.

shamed-angel 10-26-2005 02:32 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]I kinda do, I would find it difficult to get to Wolverhampton, I have been to alot of gigs this year and I'm short of cash, and my lack of people to go with but I know in my heart of hearts I could have gone if I had really made the effort.[/QUOTE]

I went from Cardiff, on my own, by train. And then the next day I saw Westminster Abbey, it was amazing. Then I came home cause I had work this morning 9 til 9.
[QUOTE=Nobuo>>>>=God]I would love seeing Dream Theater do some Opeth songs live.James the Growler.[/QUOTE]
No. Just No.

GenuineImitation 10-26-2005 02:40 PM

I dont think James could pull off singing Opeth. Maybe the mellower parts, but then again, I have never heard him growl.

Reywas 10-26-2005 02:41 PM

I think he has potential.

Darkness 10-26-2005 03:06 PM

[QUOTE=Nobuo>>>>=God]I would love seeing Dream Theater do some Opeth songs live.James the Growler.[/QUOTE]
They would fail, and not just James. Petrucci couldn't do both guitar parts (let alone only one part, and have the same feel as Mikeal or Peter) Myung could do the bass, and Portnoy would have a hell of a lot of trouble doing some of Martins parts.

Cain 10-26-2005 03:09 PM

Basically, Dream Theater trying to do Opeth would have similar results to a Magna Carta label prog-metal band trying to do Rush.

Lord Abortion 10-26-2005 03:11 PM

Speaking of Rush, perhaps they could do 2112 or test for echo well...

shamed-angel 10-26-2005 03:13 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Speaking of Rush, perhaps they could do 2112 or test for echo well...[/QUOTE]
They did 2112 last year in Paris... Only the song though.

Lord Abortion 10-26-2005 03:17 PM

I know a few Rush fans that would swear on Geddy's life that Test for echo is the best thing they ever did.

Eddie-the-trooper/Heavy Bass Dude for one...

Cain 10-26-2005 03:21 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]I know a few Rush fans that would swear on Geddy's life that Test for echo is the best thing they ever did.[/QUOTE]

That's bulls[size=2]h[/size]it, Test for Echo sucks.

Lord Abortion 10-26-2005 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]That's bulls[size=2]h[/size]it, Test for Echo sucks.[/QUOTE]
I dunno, I have just heard Exit...stage left.

I'm just going off a certain young Norwegian's reccommendation.:p

Cain 10-26-2005 03:34 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]I dunno, I have just heard Exit...stage left.

I'm just going off a certain young Norwegian's reccommendation.:p[/QUOTE]

I mean, a few songs on it are ok, but in general, the lyrics are bad and the vocal melodies are worse, and it's falsely marketed as a return to Rush's hard-rocking days complete with better solos, but that's not really true: "Counterparts" did those things much better. The lyrics still stunk and the vocal melodies were still iffy, but the band played like crazy. Lifeson even shredded, something he almost never did.

nowitzki 10-26-2005 03:58 PM

Sorry about the big post, hopefully some of you can be bothered to read it.

OK then. Monday night was the best gig I had ever been to. Tuesday was even better.

The apollo was almost full, I hear the shows were sold out both nights.
When the house lights went the place was electric. The opening drums from The Root Of All Evil were played, with flashes of huge 3D octavarium balls. Then the song kicked in and we were rolling, a great opener. They then followed with Panic Attack, John Myung starting it off with the bass intro, that guy is so unbelieveably cool.

The screen then showed ToT tour intro video (its a bonus feature on the Budokan DVD), but it was in reverse and went back through all the years, to 1985 and the Majesty days. They then played a song from that period, and a song from each album in chronological order up until the intermission. Highlights included Peruvian Skies which contained instrumental sections from Floyd's WYWH, and Metallica's Wherever I May Roam.

After the intermission they came back with 2 songs from ToT, which went down excellently (tatically replacing the chorus "Take me as I am" with "Eat my *** and balls.)

They then finished the 2nd set with the final 3 songs from 8VM, concluding with the title track itself, which was breathtaking. The intro to this was JR soloing on what looked like a red pad which he ran his fingers across kind of like a keyboard but with no keys (sorry for the crap explanation of it, some one probably knows what it is.)

They then left the stage to a huge ovation, just to return for the encore of Pull Me Under and Metropolis (they started metropolis from the instrumental section and played it right through).

Incredible.

At the end MP spoke on the mic and said "We'll be back tomorrow with a completely different set", so I knew we were in for a treat.

On the 2nd night they opened with TROA once again, but other than that the set was completly different. They followed TROA with The Mirror and Lie. The first set also included the unreleased "Raise The Knife" which went down very well considering most people had probably never heard it. The first set finished with In The Name Of God, on of my personal favourite DT songs, superb.

Then it came, the moment we had been waiting for, DT covering DSOTM in full. Musical ecstasy. They played the whole album superbly, JP's playing really captured the mood of the songs like few other guitarists could do. Theresa Thompson (from LSFNY) came on to do Great Gig In The Sky. Her voice is just stunning, her performance couldn't have been better.
During Money we got a guest sax-player for the solo who is apparenlty is in Roger Water's band. The whole performance was flawless.

With the whole crowd reeeling from what they just witnessed it would seem impossible for them to come back with anything to match it. They managed however when the encore started with Theresa back out for the Spirit Carries On. The place was absolutely electric, the performance was superb, Labrie and Theresa both delivering stunning vocal perfoamances.

I could have gone home then and been happy to say I had seen the greatest night of music in my life. But then we hear the keyboard intro of Learning To Live. IMO this is possibly DT's greatest song, and this performance was definitely my highlight of the shows. The whole band were on top form, absolutely flawless.

People seem to criticise DT shows for two reasons generally 1- James' voice, and 2- they are too static on stage.

Well at these shows there were no signs of either of those points.
James' voice was absolutely incredible. Admitedly on some live albums his voice has been a bit sketchy, but in London it was just flawless. He also acted as a great fontman, getting the crowd involved and entertained (although he was off stage for the long instrumental sections.)

As for the band being static, while they obviously don't run around like Maiden they are moving around and seem to be genuinlly enjoying what they are doing. JM and JP would wander over to each other to jam during certain songs, and they would take the centre stage for solos etc, (notably JM walking right to the front of the stage ready for the Metropolis bass solo :cool: .)

Sorry if I sound like a huge fanboy who worships the band, but.... well I guess I am :D

GenuineImitation 10-26-2005 04:05 PM

[QUOTE=nowitzki]Sorry about the big post, hopefully some of you can be bothered to read it.

OK then. Monday night was the best gig I had ever been to. Tuesday was even better.

The apollo was almost full, I hear the shows were sold out both nights.
When the house lights went the place was electric. The opening drums from The Root Of All Evil were played, with flashes of huge 3D octavarium balls. Then the song kicked in and we were rolling, a great opener. They then followed with Panic Attack, John Myung starting it off with the bass intro, that guy is so unbelieveably cool.

The screen then showed ToT tour intro video (its a bonus feature on the Budokan DVD), but it was in reverse and went back through all the years, to 1985 and the Majesty days. They then played a song from that period, and a song from each album in chronological order up until the intermission. Highlights included Peruvian Skies which contained instrumental sections from Floyd's WYWH, and Metallica's Wherever I May Roam.

After the intermission they came back with 2 songs from ToT, which went down excellently (tatically replacing the chorus "Take me as I am" with "Eat my *** and balls.)

They then finished the 2nd set with the final 3 songs from 8VM, concluding with the title track itself, which was breathtaking. The intro to this was JR soloing on what looked like a red pad which he ran his fingers across kind of like a keyboard but with no keys (sorry for the crap explanation of it, some one probably knows what it is.)

They then left the stage to a huge ovation, just to return for the encore of Pull Me Under and Metropolis (they started metropolis from the instrumental section and played it right through).

Incredible.

At the end MP spoke on the mic and said "We'll be back tomorrow with a completely different set", so I knew we were in for a treat.

On the 2nd night they opened with TROA once again, but other than that the set was completly different. They followed TROA with The Mirror and Lie. The first set also included the unreleased "Raise The Knife" which went down very well considering most people had probably never heard it. The first set finished with In The Name Of God, on of my personal favourite DT songs, superb.

Then it came, the moment we had been waiting for, DT covering DSOTM in full. Musical ecstasy. They played the whole album superbly, JP's playing really captured the mood of the songs like few other guitarists could do. Theresa Thompson (from LSFNY) came on to do Great Gig In The Sky. Her voice is just stunning, her performance couldn't have been better.
During Money we got a guest sax-player for the solo who is apparenlty is in Roger Water's band. The whole performance was flawless.

With the whole crowd reeeling from what they just witnessed it would seem impossible for them to come back with anything to match it. They managed however when the encore started with Theresa back out for the Spirit Carries On. The place was absolutely electric, the performance was superb, Labrie and Theresa both delivering stunning vocal perfoamances.

I could have gone home then and been happy to say I had seen the greatest night of music in my life. But then we hear the keyboard intro of Learning To Live. IMO this is possibly DT's greatest song, and this performance was definitely my highlight of the shows. The whole band were on top form, absolutely flawless.

People seem to criticise DT shows for two reasons generally 1- James' voice, and 2- they are too static on stage.

Well at these shows there were no signs of either of those points.
James' voice was absolutely incredible. Admitedly on some live albums his voice has been a bit sketchy, but in London it was just flawless. He also acted as a great fontman, getting the crowd involved and entertained (although he was off stage for the long instrumental sections.)

As for the band being static, while they obviously don't run around like Maiden they are moving around and seem to be genuinlly enjoying what they are doing. JM and JP would wander over to each other to jam during certain songs, and they would take the centre stage for solos etc, (notably JM walking right to the front of the stage ready for the Metropolis bass solo :cool: .)

Sorry if I sound like a huge fanboy who worships the band, but.... well I guess I am :D[/QUOTE]



I wish I could have seen them. Especially two nights in a row.

Ad Absurdum 10-26-2005 04:07 PM

[quote=nowitzki]People seem to criticise DT shows for two reasons generally 1- James' voice, and 2- they are too static on stage.

Well at these shows there were no signs of either of those points.
James' voice was absolutely incredible. Admitedly on some live albums his voice has been a bit sketchy, but in London it was just flawless. He also acted as a great fontman, getting the crowd involved and entertained (although he was off stage for the long instrumental sections.)[/quote]
I totally agree an Jame's voice. He was incredible when I saw him (only the first night unfortunately, couldn't afford two nights away), notably in 'Under A Glass Moon'. He also pulled off the screams in 'Octavarium' pretty d[i]a[/i]mn well as I thought this could be tricky for him live (and that part was a huge musical orgasm for me :D)

shamed-angel 10-26-2005 04:19 PM

I loved the way JM bowed after the Metropolis bass solo. My girlfriend told me off for singing too loudly for the whole thing. Her words being "Why can't you just listen." I was shocked. If I wanted to just listen, I'd have stayed at home, or outisde with my iPod.

Fu[COLOR="Black"]c[/COLOR]king amazing band. My favourite ever, have been for the last 4 years. They played Another Won, then A Fortune in Lies. The instrument JR was playing was a continuum.
Not the best time I've seen them play, but still incredible.

Ad Absurdum 10-26-2005 04:25 PM

[quote=shamed-angel]I loved the way JM bowed after the Metropolis bass solo. My girlfriend told me off for singing too loudly for the whole thing. Her words being "Why can't you just listen." I was shocked. If I wanted to just listen, I'd have stayed at home, or outisde with my iPod.

Fu[COLOR=Black]c[/COLOR]king amazing band. My favourite ever, have been for the last 4 years. They played Another Won, then A Fortune in Lies. The instrument JR was playing was a continuum.
Not the best time I've seen them play, but still incredible.[/quote] I couldn't believe that JR managed to play the continuum with his right hand and accompany himself on keys with his left (without looking, it was during 'Never Enough' if I remember right). I caught his eye just after it and he gave me the biggest grin whilst I picked my jaw up from the floor.

Edit - Just got my pictures on my computer now :)

nowitzki 10-26-2005 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=Ad Absurdum]I couldn't believe that JR managed to play the continuum with his right hand and accompany himself on keys with his left (without looking, it was during 'Never Enough' if I remember right). I caught his eye just after it and he gave me the biggest grin whilst I picked my jaw up from the floor.

Edit - Just got my pictures on my computer now :)[/QUOTE]

Feel free to share :thumb:

shamed-angel 10-26-2005 05:05 PM

I have a few, but my girlfriend is in canada, and they're on her camera. I went up on my own, saw the show with her, stayed the night at a hotel, and then saw her off at about 8 in the morning. I then travelled around London and [B]I CROSSED ABBEY ROAD![/B]It was a great experience.

nowitzki 10-26-2005 05:08 PM

[QUOTE=shamed-angel]I have a few, but my girlfriend is in canada, and they're on her camera. I went up on my own, saw the show with her, stayed the night at a hotel, and then saw her off at about 8 in the morning. I then travelled around London and [B]I CROSSED ABBEY ROAD![/B]It was a great experience.[/QUOTE]

Me and my mate were thinking of doing that while in London, but weren't sure where abouts Abbey Road was :( . However we still managed to check out a lot of sights and also many pubs :chug:

Ad Absurdum 10-26-2005 05:49 PM

[url]http://photobucket.com/albums/a299/beneaththefoldsofflesh/London%202005/?sc=1[/url]
(anyone who gets the Insision reference is cool)

There's a few pics from the gig. I'm the spotty kid in the No Fear hat, the rest are my drunken friends. The pics of the band kinda suck because a) had to be fly taking the photos and b) I suck at taking photos anyway.

Lord Abortion 10-26-2005 06:02 PM

Is Mike seriously wearing an England shirt with the majesty symbol on it?!

That is beyond cool...

shamed-angel 10-26-2005 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=Ad Absurdum][url]http://photobucket.com/albums/a299/beneaththefoldsofflesh/London%202005/?sc=1[/url]
(anyone who gets the Insision reference is cool)

There's a few pics from the gig. I'm the spotty kid in the No Fear hat, the rest are my drunken friends. The pics of the band kinda suck because a) had to be fly taking the photos and b) I suck at taking photos anyway.[/QUOTE]
That was you? dude, I'm the guy that kept coming and going to the place diagonally infront of you. With the Images and Words Tshirt and long hair. The one with the Czechoslovakian Guy.

nowitzki 10-26-2005 06:07 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Is Mike seriously wearing an England shirt with the majesty symbol on it?!

That is beyond cool...[/QUOTE]

I think it's just a normal England shirt, that majesty symbol is on one of the durms. It was really cool seeing him wearing that.

Here's a great selection of photos from both Monday and Tuesday:
[URL="http://www.woodee.co.uk/cgi-bin/dt_gallery/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_sub&path=Gigs&tn=1"]http://www.woodee.co.uk/cgi-bin/dt_gallery/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_sub&path=Gigs&tn=1[/URL]

Ad Absurdum 10-26-2005 06:07 PM

[quote=Lord Abortion]Is Mike seriously wearing an England shirt with the majesty symbol on it?!

That is beyond cool...[/quote] Unfortunately he was :upset:
Edit - Just an England shirt sorry, my eyesight sucks.

[quote=shamed-angel]That was you? dude, I'm the guy that kept coming and going to the place diagonally infront of you. With the Images and Words Tshirt. The one with the Czechoslovakian Guy.[/quote] Hmm... you had long hair, your friend had short hair?

shamed-angel 10-26-2005 06:12 PM

Yeh, my I&W Tshirt had a black heart on the back. I was diagonally to your left.

Lord Abortion 10-26-2005 06:20 PM

Ah, I see, it's the fact that the drum looked the same colour as the shirt and camoflauged him.


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