Sputnik Music Forums

Sputnik Music Forums (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/index.php)
-   Rock & Metal (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=23)
-   -   Tool (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220438)

Werny 03-13-2005 04:03 PM

Greatest Hits...

Hush
Prison Sex
Sober
Stinkfist
Ænema
Mantra
Schism
Parabol
Parabola

Considering they were the only songs released as singles.

Shadius 03-13-2005 04:04 PM

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]There's an interesting thought to ponder over, what would go on a greatest hits album so far....[/QUOTE]

Tool has had hits? Haha.

I think releasing a greatest hits is a weird concept for Tool as they're not that kind of band. If their record company(ies) did, then the singles would go on from each release.

Adam Jones is GOD 03-13-2005 04:05 PM

[QUOTE=Werny]Greatest Hits...

Hush
Prison Sex
Sober
Stinkfist
Ænema
Mantra
Schism
Parabol
Parabola

Considering they were the only songs released as singles.[/QUOTE]

Careful there. They were released as videos, never singles. To my knowledge, Tool have never released a single (not sure in the States, but in the UK, people still make a fuss over single releases, and its seen to some to be selling out).

However, the number of songs they released to radio is quite large

Dried Muffin Remnants 03-13-2005 04:06 PM

They've had singles, that's the closest they ever came to that type of concept. But yeah, with the exception of a few songs, all of their songs are Greatest Hits material in my eyes.

Adam Jones is GOD 03-13-2005 04:07 PM

[QUOTE=Shadius]Tool has had hits? Haha.

I think releasing a greatest hits is a weird concept for Tool as they're not that kind of band. If their record company(ies) did, then the singles would go on from each release.[/QUOTE]

Im not saying it would ever happen, I cant see the band doing something like that, unless they re recorded every song, and added something new. Its against their mentallity to re release songs. But im saying, as the one full length CD, what would/should be on it?

Werny 03-13-2005 04:07 PM

Here's something else I've been wondering...

Does anyone here have any singles? If so, what is on them?

*EDIT* whoops... guess that question's null and void now.

Dried Muffin Remnants 03-13-2005 04:10 PM

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Careful there. They were released as videos, never singles. To my knowledge, Tool have never released a single (not sure in the States, but in the UK, people still make a fuss over single releases, and its seen to some to be selling out).

However, the number of songs they released to radio is quite large[/QUOTE]

We have a new DJ in Boston who played some Tool songs on the radio that I'd never expect: such as H. and 46 & 2.

This is kind of off topic, but I've heard a lot of Sober lately, even on the lighter alt stations. I'm probably wrong, but I'm thinking that's further proof of a Tool release coming pretty soon ( I know they're in the process, but I'm thinking SOON).

Dude3 03-13-2005 04:15 PM

Yea, on our radio station in Tampa, they play a lot of Tool. I hear a lot of H. and 46&2. Also hear Sober, Prison Sex, Aenima, Stinkfist, Schism, and I even think I heard Pu**** before.

Werny 03-13-2005 04:16 PM

I think it'd have to be a "best of" because they've only had about 3 hits.

Hush
Part of Me
Intolerance
Prison Sex
Sober
Flood
Stinkfist
Eulogy
H.
Ænema
Third Eye [live]
The Grudge
Schism
Parabol
Parabola
Lateralus

Thoughts?

Adam Jones is GOD 03-13-2005 04:18 PM

There's a radio station in London that I used to be able to pick up in my area, with a DJ who was in love with tool. He made sure in one week, he played the entire tool back catalogue (minus filler and debatable filler/song).

But recently, MTV2 here ahs started playing a lot more Tool videos. We even (finally) got the APC 'Passive' video. however, its probably just coincidence, as i've never known a band to be played more just because unofficially the album is soon. Its when an announcement is made that they go nuts

Adam Jones is GOD 03-13-2005 04:20 PM

[QUOTE=Werny]I think it'd have to be a "best of" because they've only had about 3 hits.

Hush
Part of Me
[B]Intolerance[/B]
Prison Sex
Sober
[B]Flood[/B]
Stinkfist
Eulogy
H.
Ænema
Third Eye [live]
The Grudge
Schism
Parabol
Parabola
Lateralus

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Bold are my only debatables. And when I said hits, I didnt mean chart topping really. The term greatest hits is deceiving. I should have said 'Best of...'

Dried Muffin Remnants 03-13-2005 04:24 PM

I'd have to agree, I think that 4 degrees would have a better chance than Intolerance. And Flood wouldn't have a prayer.

Werny 03-13-2005 04:25 PM

Although Flood and Intolerance weren't popular with the public, fans generally consider them absolutely brilliant, especially Intolerance. I myself don't enjoy Flood (apart from the thundering beginning) but it's from what I've gathered.

Dried Muffin Remnants 03-13-2005 04:28 PM

Intolerance was bad@ss, no doubt.

Dried Muffin Remnants 03-13-2005 04:30 PM

Anyone else think that the beginning of Jimmy sounds a lot better when Intermission is played before it? Just because of the light to heavy crescendo?

Dried Muffin Remnants 03-13-2005 04:33 PM

Yeah, sounds interesting. I guess I just like light to heavy.

Werny 03-13-2005 04:33 PM

4 Degrees wouldn't go on there because it's never talked about amongst fans. Very underrated.

Another question; why are Crawl Away, Swamp Song and Undertow ALWAYS forgotten? I think they're the best songs on Undertow, but no one has ever talked about them!

Dried Muffin Remnants 03-13-2005 04:37 PM

Crawl Away has an awesome introduction with Adam's opening riff, but after that it just sounds like the rest. The reason why I mention 4* is that it sounds like a type of song that would go on a Greatest Hits album. It's not very complex or hard to follow. I'm not saying it's bad or that it's good to not be complex, but it's just a Greatest Hits type.

Adam Jones is GOD 03-13-2005 04:38 PM

[QUOTE=Werny]4 Degrees wouldn't go on there because it's never talked about amongst fans. Very underrated.

Another question; why are Crawl Away, Swamp Song and Undertow ALWAYS forgotten? I think they're the best songs on Undertow, but no one has ever talked about them![/QUOTE]

4 Degrees is one of the most talked about songs in this thread

/thinks back to the days of me and deadohiosky9 learning it

Undertow is a classic off that album. Swamp Song and Crawl Away are good, but they lack the hooks.

Werny 03-13-2005 04:40 PM

I guess 4 Degrees would be on a greatest hits. It's kind of an embodiment of Tool (eastern, about realising mankind's full potential).

Dried Muffin Remnants 03-13-2005 04:41 PM

I also think that all of the title tracks should be on the fictitious album. They were all good and are all talked about.

Dried Muffin Remnants 03-13-2005 04:43 PM

Maynard's description of 4* was amusing. "The anus opens 4* wider than the vagina" or something.

Werny 03-13-2005 04:44 PM

Swamp Song, for me, has the most catchy "chorus" of any Tool song.

Werny 03-13-2005 04:47 PM

In Chains, it's "the inside of the anus is 4 degrees warmer then that of the vagina".

Icky.

Dried Muffin Remnants 03-13-2005 04:48 PM

[QUOTE=Werny]In Chains, it's "the inside of the anus is 4 degrees warmer then that of the vagina".

Icky.[/QUOTE]

Hmm, could have sworn I heard different. But yeah, either way... nasty. :lol:

Edit: Yup, you're right.
"Apparently the anal cavity has 8 more working muscles and is 4 degrees warmer than the vagina. This, however, is NOT a song about violation. It is a song about opening up, completely, without reservation."

Werny 03-13-2005 04:51 PM

That's what the FAQ says.

Dried Muffin Remnants 03-13-2005 04:52 PM

It's what Maynard said. But yeah, got it from FAQ.

Adam Jones is GOD 03-13-2005 04:52 PM

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]Hmm, could have sworn I heard different. But yeah, either way... nasty. :lol:

Edit: Yup, you're right.
"Apparently the anal cavity has 8 more working muscles and is 4 degrees warmer than the vagina. This, however, is NOT a song about violation. It is a song about opening up, completely, without reservation."[/QUOTE]

Listen to the lyrics with the idea of anal penetration in mind. Then do the same with APC's 'Thinking Of You'. MJK has some mind issues.

Rounder 03-13-2005 04:54 PM

As far as I'm concerned, undertow is in no way less of a record than Enima or Lateralus. Each album is a completely different. Intolerance, Flood, those are as good as anything on the later records. Sure its got a different sound, they have a different bass player, but I love the production. It's just a heavier version of Tool imo. The songs are a little more straight forward, but really the songs aren't that different from the other records. Eulogy sounds like it could have gone on Undertow, so does Stinkfist. Im glad that they went in the direction they did, but I still love the older tunes. Im glad they change it up each album. Makes me wonder what the hell is coming next.

Some of you guys thinking that Intolerance and Flood arent as good, need to look at those songs from a new perspective. Maybe learning them on guitar. I came to a new understanding and appreciation of Tool after learning how to play most of their songs. Intolerance and Flood are two of my favorites to play off of any album.

Werny 03-13-2005 05:00 PM

Undertow really has no interesting dynamics to keep me interested for long.

But every song on it's own is classic.

Does anyone think Tool are capable of another ballad with the next album? Sober was well recieved.

Everything_and_Nothing_3:15 03-13-2005 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]Maynard's description of 4* was amusing. "The anus opens 4* wider than the vagina" or something.[/QUOTE]
No, it is 4 degrees hotter inside the anus than in the vagina.

BlindWriting 03-13-2005 06:27 PM

[QUOTE=Werny]Undertow really has no interesting dynamics to keep me interested for long.

But every song on it's own is classic.

Does anyone think Tool are capable of another ballad with the next album? Sober was well recieved.[/QUOTE]
Sober was a ballad?

Werny 03-13-2005 06:36 PM

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]Sober was a ballad?[/QUOTE]

It's slow, sensitive, and not very energetic. Yes, I think it's a ballad.

Kage 03-13-2005 06:52 PM

Sober was the first Tool song I heard. It hooked me on them. I loved and still do love that song, it's so dark and the lyrics are awesome. I went out to buy the CD because I loved Sober so much, and I admit I was somewhat dissapointed. The other songs on the CD didn't manage to grab me as much.

A few months later, luckily, I was given Lateralus for my birthday and it blew my mind. I then later was able to look back and appreciate Undertow more, just because I realized where the band was going with their music, and what they were all about.

Intolerance, Flood, 4 Degrees, and Undertow are my favorite songs on it.

Dr. Jake Destructo 03-13-2005 07:02 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Sober was the first Tool song I heard. [/QUOTE]


To tell you the truth, I never heard a Tool song until I purchased Lateralus. :eek:

Kage 03-13-2005 07:06 PM

[QUOTE=kombucha mushroom mofo]To tell you the truth, I never heard a Tool song until I purchased Lateralus. :eek:[/QUOTE]

Then what gave you the inclination to purchase it?

Werny 03-13-2005 07:15 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Then what gave you the inclination to purchase it?[/QUOTE]

Maybe he purchased it because it's widely considered to be the greatest piece of plastic in existence?

Dr. Jake Destructo 03-13-2005 07:15 PM

Good question...Basically I heard a lot about the background of Tool, and how complex their music was, so I was inclined to buy it. Same thing happened with Dream Theater, but I didn't end up liking them that much, so there's some risk involved in aimlessly purchasing albums, but usually it ends up good. :p


EDIT: In a nutshell, what Werny said. :lol:

Kage 03-13-2005 07:55 PM

Same thing happened to me with Dredg, with great results.

bassist-bmxer 03-13-2005 08:14 PM

I actually really like the undertow album, and i think the song 'undertow' is really good.

I have a wierd tool album, it's called Tool- The Ultimate Ultra Rare Trax. My girlfriend got it for me from London for christmas, its definetly fake though, but still quite a decent album.

Its actually more of a Maynard album as most of the songs are other band's songs with guest vocals from Maynard. But it does have some of Tool's early demo's.

playlist:
1)shandi's addiction-calling dr. love (kiss cover by maynard, tom morello, brad wilk and billy gould)
2)Rev 22:20 (Maynard, Danny Lohner)
3)Deftones-Passenger (Maynard guest vocals)
4)santa monica & orange (maynard guest vocals)
5)choked (loads of people but again Maynard guest vocals)
6)muhammad my friend (live duet between Maynard & Tori Amos)
7)The Melvins & Tool-Divorced
8)Sober (demo)
9)Part Of Me (demo)
10)Hush (demo)
11)crawl away (demo)
12)Jerkoff (demo)
13)Cold and ugly (demo)
14)Tool-spasm (live peach cover)
15)Tool-Wrong way (live sublime cover)
16)Tool & Ratm-Kill The Revolution

Track 14 (spasm) is a really good song (Peach is Justin Chancellor's old band)


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:36 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.