Hey guys. I've been following a few copies of Salival on ebay for a few days, and they've just started to raise in price (at the last minute :rolleyes: ) What price do you guys think would be too high to pay for it?

Anyone know what equipment is being used by the band on the new album?

I'd like to see what Justin can do with a 5 or 6 string bass, personally. As he's the chording type who isn't afraid to go into mid range or above it seems like a natural extension for him, and what with a lot of songs being played in real low tunings and the like, the low B would be useful. More fretless work would be nice too.

I hear Adam tried out a 7 string once, but didn't like the feel of it? I love the guitars he uses now personally. So I wouln't really want him to change at all. Really great tone and texture.

How about Danny? Any new cool drums or effects or anything anyone's heard about?

I'm not expecting anyone's heard anything, i'm just hoping.

I think it's a little too early to tell at the moment.

[QUOTE=Shadius]Anyone know what equipment is being used by the band on the new album?

I'd like to see what Justin can do with a 5 or 6 string bass, personally. As he's the chording type who isn't afraid to go into mid range or above it seems like a natural extension for him, and what with a lot of songs being played in real low tunings and the like, the low B would be useful. More fretless work would be nice too.

I hear Adam tried out a 7 string once, but didn't like the feel of it? I love the guitars he uses now personally. So I wouln't really want him to change at all. Really great tone and texture.

How about Danny? Any new cool drums or effects or anything anyone's heard about?

I'm not expecting anyone's heard anything, i'm just hoping.[/QUOTE]


Mums the word for the new album, we know next to nothing atm.

Hey, this may have been discussed before, but has anyone else noticed the Hemiola that Maynard plays during one of the verses of Schism? I remember Danny Carey talking about in one of his online demonstrations, but hadn't caught it until the last time I was listening to Lateralus recently. It's the part where he says "I've DONE the MATH eNOUGH to KNOW the DANGERS OF our SECOND GUESSING..." The song is in 5/8 7/8, but Maynard sings a dotted quarter pulse (more of a triple feel, like 6/8...). Very cool. :)

Adam Jones has the most amazing freakin' guitar sound ever! He would definitely not need to change it. His guitar lives and breathes, much more 3 dimensional than any other guitar sound I have heard.

Adam should stick to a dropped D 6 string IMO he uses those D barré chords so well.
Justin's bass is only prominent to me when he goes into the upper ranges, as long as he has a catchy riff he can go as high as he pleases.
I don't think danny's drumming will ever get old so he doesn't need to change, but it has been said his stuff will be more polyrhythm oriented like Meshuggah. Is it just me or does some of the meshuggah drums seem a bit mechanical and boring, I only have I but around 5mins a snare kicks in and i can no longer listen to the song because of the repeated snare, it's all i can hear :confused:

I was expecting this album in spring, but it now seems like its gonna be like Autum :(

[QUOTE=clearvision] Is it just me or does some of the meshuggah drums seem a bit mechanical and boring, I only have I but around 5mins a snare kicks in and i can no longer listen to the song because of the repeated snare, it's all i can hear :confused:
([/QUOTE]

That seems to be a major complaint about them, but from a technical standpoint, the drumming is amazing, and near physically impossible. I like Meshuggah alot, but yes I can only listen to them for a certain amount of time.

I have tried and tried to get into the song, but all i hear is the snare. Maybe it's just the mixing on 'I' but i can only manage to listen to that part for about 20 secs.

I really hope Adam sticks to the same tunings/guitar. Doesn't he have that unique Les Paul Silverburst that gives him his weird tone? I think using deeper tunings would take away from the feel of his playing, which has remained consistent on every album. Of course, there's always Parabola with the B/E tuning, but I can't see a full album of that.

he'll stick to the dropped d. it hasn't failed him yet. i want to hear more synth and guitar at once as on reflections. actually if the whole cd had the general lateralus sound, i would not be disappointed. i have too many things i would like to hear to list so i'm not gonna bother.

almost forgot, right before my previous post tool had the lead by about ten votes. cross your fingers.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Hey, this may have been discussed before, but has anyone else noticed the Hemiola that Maynard plays during one of the verses of Schism? I remember Danny Carey talking about in one of his online demonstrations, but hadn't caught it until the last time I was listening to Lateralus recently. It's the part where he says "I've DONE the MATH eNOUGH to KNOW the DANGERS OF our SECOND GUESSING..." The song is in 5/8 7/8, but Maynard sings a dotted quarter pulse (more of a triple feel, like 6/8...). Very cool. :)[/QUOTE]

its also called Iambic Pantameter
its the emphasis on certing syllable sounds in a sentence, 2 more examples would be

from Romeo and Juliet:

"I'LL look TO like IF lookING likeING move" which is also a perfectly balanced line as well, Shakespeare actually used that method to display the mental state of a charachter, whether they spoke in slurred syllabes and pantameter, or a balanced clean form of words

an other, less sophisticated example is:

"I am A FLAMing HOMOsexUAL"



hmm, Theater Arts 1...

[QUOTE=jamesclelland]almost forgot, right before my previous post tool had the lead by about ten votes. cross your fingers.[/QUOTE]

I voted for Lateralus, because, although I love all those albums, I actually own Lateralus, and I believe its a genious album. (my second choice woulda been The Wall)

[QUOTE=jamesclelland]almost forgot, right before my previous post tool had the lead by about ten votes. cross your fingers.[/QUOTE]

unfortunately, some lesser humans have now given anyone sporting Tool fanship an instant bad reputation on these boards. So be careful what you guys say, you dont want people thinking you're another mindless fanboy.

I hate Tool fans, I really do.

Not you guys though <3

Are we/those who post regularly on here different than the average tool fan? I guess most, if not all of us are musicians and that might have a large bearing...

I dont really like the usage of iambic pentameters and differant stresses in vocals like that alot, gets on my nerves a little.

Dam[COLOR=White]n[/COLOR] the Tool fanboys. I can honestly say I love Tool but I'm anything but a fanboy.

i hadnt listened to Tool in ages

but i like talking about them and speaking my mind in a moderatly friendly atmosphere

the alt. and indie people are pretty understanding for the most part

i steer clear from R and M



anyway, the point was, im not a fanboy either, i was, and now i use the residual knowldge in an intellectual setting






my girlfriend likes Tool, and that made me realize, isnt it sexist to say just fan boy? arnt there female Tool fans as well?

they use the term "fan [I]boy[/I]" mainly not because of gender, but to make them feel small and childish. Though it's just hypocritical because calling names is just as childish as being a "fan boy".

i guess you can start calling them a fan child if you think its sexist.

Who cares if someone calls you a name, this isnt 3rd grade. If you like Tool, and find thier music stimulating call yourself a fan.

I am a Tool fan and proud of it.

[QUOTE=SonorKen]Who cares if someone calls you a name, this isnt 3rd grade. If you like Tool, and find thier music stimulating call yourself a fan.

I am a Tool fan and proud of it.[/QUOTE]

Me too!

[QUOTE=SonorKen]Who cares if someone calls you a name, this isnt 3rd grade. If you like Tool, and find thier music stimulating call yourself a fan.

I am a Tool fan and proud of it.[/QUOTE]

Of course, I'm a huge Tool fan and proud of it. What they were talking about were fan[I]boys[/I]. There's a huge difference.

i always thought fanboy just meant that you were a fan of the band, but w/e, im a Tool fan.

Yup, I can say that I'm a fan because I find 99% of their stuff to be brilliant. They're the best band out there now.

I don't find any need to put up a half-naked poster of Maynard with blue body paint on him.

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]I don't find any need to put up a half-naked poster of Maynard with blue body paint on him.[/QUOTE]
Well then, I suppose we'll just have to get you a poster of him in a wig and bra instead.

[QUOTE=MuDvAyNe3B]i always thought fanboy just meant that you were a fan of the band, but w/e, im a Tool fan.[/QUOTE]

A fanboy is a person (the connotation obviously implying a younger kid) who is overly obsessed with the band, but often times not with the actual music but the image or the idea of being a fanatic of the band.

Fanboys are generally blind followers of a band, and pretty stupid/ignorant/rabid in their profession of love for the band.

I love Tool to death, but I don't go around being an idiot about it.