Or maybe try something other than raw war black metal.

what is the best example of "raw war black metal" that I could ever listen to?

nyogthaeblisz

[QUOTE=Meatplow;17875461]what is the best example of "raw war black metal" that I could ever listen to?[/QUOTE]

Nuclearhammer or Blasphemy.

don't **** around. get Burzum's Det Som En Gang Var and Ruumisvaunut's demo.

Justin did you listen to TRONES?

[QUOTE=Meatplow;17875461]what is the best example of "raw war black metal" that I could ever listen to?[/QUOTE]

bestial warlust, blasphemy

i've heard bestial warlust it was pretty tight

i'll check out the others thanks

[QUOTE=christsimpson;17875543]don't **** around. get Burzum's Det Som En Gang Var and Ruumisvaunut's demo.

Justin did you listen to TRONES?[/QUOTE]

Totally forgot, sorry. Will do later.

assuming they count as black metal, anyone know a good place to start with Belphegor?

nowhere

as in they're not black? or they just suck? i heard a bit of them on last.fm radio, and they seemed pretty tight

they suck

Bondage Goat Zombie :lol:

[QUOTE=ck_ck;17875694]they suck[/QUOTE]

maybe i'm asking in the wrong place. i'm looking for solid blackened death that has good song writing, without the black parts becoming overwhelming. like "zos kia cultus" or "ex inferis"

Heiling Bilskirnir all day.

[QUOTE=bloozclooz;17875728]maybe i'm asking in the wrong place. i'm looking for solid blackened death that has good song writing, without the black parts becoming overwhelming. like "zos kia cultus" or "ex inferis"[/QUOTE]

belphegor is way more black than death, they're alot like marduk with better riffs and songwriting

go for pestapokalypse first. their early stuff (blutsabbath etc) is supposed to be good too but i haven't heard it.

Their early stuff is good, the new stuff is lol.

no, there's no good place to start with belphegor
course you could always apply the "older is better" rule of thumb i use

lul

their newest 2 have been god awful, pestapokalypse brings the satan pretty hard though tbh. great riffing.

I've come to the conclusion that bone awl's "all has red" is their best imo

i've come to the conclusion that bone awl is aight

I am glad we have come to our conclusions.

who wouldn't like bone awl

probably [I][B]a gay[/B][/I]

they're okay

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;17875733]Heiling Bilskirnir all day.[/QUOTE]

Heil.

Bone Awl is good.

ill have to check bone awl out then

I couldn't get into them.

Bone Awl rule.