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PaulSimonon 11-18-2004 04:09 PM

[QUOTE=neal_672]Yeah i've heard great things about it, what's the general plot about??[/QUOTE]
1984 is about communism.
Animal Farm is a satire on the Soviets, I believe.

neal_672 11-18-2004 04:09 PM

I haven't read Animal Farm either

*should read more as he is taking english literature*

I'm reading The Handmaid's Tale by Magaret Attwood for Lit at the moment and it sucks :upset: and The Tempest by Shakespeare which sucks equally :upset: :upset:

Espbassor 11-18-2004 04:09 PM

Reading is a gimmick

Foxfire 11-18-2004 04:09 PM

neal: I posted a reply to what you said to me a bit up on this page, but it got drowned by the replies. :p

PaulSimonon 11-18-2004 04:10 PM

Shakespear? Sucking?


Wtf?!

risbo 11-18-2004 04:10 PM

Anyone read Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance?

peeted 11-18-2004 04:11 PM

ah yes amimal farm is a great book, its good because its an easy read and it manages to criticise comunism from the vew point of a comunist sympathiser so it suports the good things about it but shows how easily comunism can be courupted and turned into somthing that isnt comunism at all and is realy a dictatorship

PaulSimonon 11-18-2004 04:11 PM

The answer was lipids.

PaulSimonon 11-18-2004 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=risbo]Anyone read Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance?[/QUOTE]
My dad has it.... Any good? The title has always intrigued me...

neal_672 11-18-2004 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=PaulSimonon]Shakespear? Sucking?


Wtf?![/QUOTE]

It would suck if the teacher you had for it was so unbelievably bad you nearly fall asleep in lessons...

Ah righto Fox: wish i could get out ot tests i have like a timed test a week for english language, it sucks because we never know what it's on, thus can't revise :mad: college is too much like hard work :(

Foxfire 11-18-2004 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=PaulSimonon]The answer was lipids.[/QUOTE]

I know. :p

I couldn't remember it at first.

risbo 11-18-2004 04:13 PM

[QUOTE=PaulSimonon]My dad has it.... Any good? The title has always intrigued me...[/QUOTE]

Well I'm only about half way through but wow. It's working my mind so much.

PaulSimonon 11-18-2004 04:15 PM

[QUOTE=Foxfire]I know. :p

I couldn't remember it at first.[/QUOTE]
An easy way to remember is that the oil from the breadsticks at Fazzoli's makes the napkins somewhat transparent, a sign of lipids.

Mitchell Royce 11-18-2004 04:19 PM

Aehm, 1984 is not about communism. It's actually more of a critique of dictatorship and government in general. The nations of 1984 are no longer to define themselves without being at war with any of the other two nations. In order for each government to preserve itself it needs to gain the support of the masses and does so by taking away any way to disagree with the government. People are ignorant and are soon no longer able to even express dissatisfaction with the government or even think in terms not dictated by the government. It's fairly general which is why it's still so very poignant to this day.

Foxfire 11-18-2004 04:20 PM

^ I think they meant Animal Farm when they were talking about communism.

risbo 11-18-2004 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=Foxfire]^ I think they meant Animal Farm when they were talking about communism.[/QUOTE]

But animal farm is more of an anarchy society gone dictatorship.

Foxfire 11-18-2004 04:23 PM

I WAS NEVER DISCUSSING THE BOOK! :p

I was just saying what I thought he was referring to was people referring to someone else.

Leave me alone. :upset:

Mitchell Royce 11-18-2004 04:23 PM

That'd be right then. Sorry about that outburst, but I get real pissy when people interpret literature in way too narrow terms. Guess thats why I'm studying it at Uni.

PaulSimonon 11-18-2004 04:25 PM

Big Brother=communist government...?

Maybe I'm wrong.

Your summation was much more precise (understatement), although I didn't put too much weight on the wars, and more on the Work of the Minitruth (Which was most likely my mistake?).


EDIT: I said mork... like from Mork and Mindy....

risbo 11-18-2004 04:25 PM

[QUOTE=Foxfire]I WAS NEVER DISCUSSING THE BOOK! :p

I was just saying what I thought he was referring to was people referring to someone else.

Leave me alone. :upset:[/QUOTE]

Fine, I will leave you alone... for now.

neal_672 11-18-2004 04:26 PM

So what's everybody studying at college/uni/school? (provided you actually are of an age to do this kind of thing)

FUNKNBASS 11-18-2004 04:26 PM

Big Brother just means a watchful maybe even secretive/lurking government, not a communist one.

FUNKNBASS 11-18-2004 04:28 PM

[QUOTE=neal_672]So what's everybody studying at college/uni/school? (provided you actually are of an age to do this kind of thing)[/QUOTE]

In a couple of years if my income allows I'm going to the Robert Venn school of lutherie in Arizona.

PaulSimonon 11-18-2004 04:28 PM

[QUOTE=FUNKNBASS]Big Brother just means a watchful maybe even secretive/lurking government, not a communist one.[/QUOTE]
What about hate week and the rationing? Maybe I'm stupid.

Mitchell Royce 11-18-2004 04:28 PM

Don't forget that 1984 was written shortly after the second world war. Three superpowers fighting against each other sound familiar. With each pounding it's population with propaganda. I think that the nation of Oceania(wait, which one did it play in?) is really a combination of all three sides of the War. So to an extent you're right.

peeted 11-18-2004 04:29 PM

animal farms not about anarchey and has no links whatsoever to anarchey, were did u get that idia?

Mitchell Royce 11-18-2004 04:29 PM

where you learned to spell ;)

PaulSimonon 11-18-2004 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=Mitchell Royce]Don't forget that 1984 was written shortly after the second world war. Three superpowers fighting against each other sound familiar. With each pounding it's population with propaganda. I think that the nation of Oceania(wait, which one did it play in?) is really a combination of all three sides of the War. So to an extent you're right.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it was in Oceania.

neal_672 11-18-2004 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=FUNKNBASS]In a couple of years if my income allows I'm going to the Robert Venn school of lutherie in Arizona.[/QUOTE]

Lutherie?

risbo 11-18-2004 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=peeted]animal farms not about anarchey and has no links whatsoever to anarchey, were did u get that idia?[/QUOTE]

The fact that they had no authority figures anymore until that pig gained control and became the dictator.


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