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masada 06-15-2006 10:59 PM

true

TojesDolan 06-16-2006 01:02 AM

I'm bad at criticizing because I usually put my personal tastes over objective reviewing.

Cybergasm 06-18-2006 02:32 PM

Hey guys, just dropping in to see how goes it? I'm finished with school so you should expect to see me around more often, giving winded reviews noone will read :p.

Is this place still like the bottom of a truck-stop toilet?

I figure I might as well start off by sharing one thing I learned this year that has greatly impacted my writing- reading short stories is an amazing way to better yourself as a writer of lyrical works. I personally suggest you look at The Love Song of J. Alfred Pufrock by T.S. Eliot. That is a great example of a poetic story. If you're looking for some influence then there is no better then my personal favorite author- Franz Kafka. Some more modern inspiration could come from John Updike and John McPhee.

TojesDolan 06-18-2006 04:03 PM

It comes and goes, man. There are the obviously great pieces and the severely retarded pieces. But it's all part of the equilibrium, I think.

RollerQueen 06-18-2006 09:38 PM

I wrote a paper on "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" and his futility in lack of action as per Chaos Theory in my freshman year of college. The professor gave me a C-.

RunAmokRampant 06-18-2006 10:10 PM

Short stories are great. "The Killers" by Hemmingway is one of my favourites.

masada 06-18-2006 10:16 PM

i've read a lot of volumes of [i]The Year's Best Science Fiction[/i]. some really nice short stories there.

TojesDolan 06-18-2006 11:10 PM

I read a short story once... it was a russian short story, from the realism period about a lottery tickety. I remember it being really good.

masada 06-18-2006 11:24 PM

i bet there's a one in two million three hundred thirty five chance of that story being good

TojesDolan 06-19-2006 02:40 AM

The course it takes is really good. The description is rich.

masada 06-19-2006 05:19 AM

two hours of sleep and summer school in an hour

something tells me that i'll be falling asleep to circle takes the square today

DeadReligion 06-24-2006 07:28 PM

I can't stand Hemingway, personally. If you're looking for a good read, The Night In Question by Tobias Wolff has some excellent stories in it.

RollerQueen 06-24-2006 09:15 PM

Hemingway was a classic meathead. His stuff's not atrocious, though. At least it's not as dry as Melville's.

DeadReligion 06-24-2006 10:23 PM

He was a macho, emotionaless drunk.

slack 06-25-2006 10:36 AM

It's a beautiful day, go out and exercise.

RollerQueen 06-25-2006 02:58 PM

It's a rainy day here. I got 2 hours of sleep, went out, worked for 8 hours, and made $103 in tips. Stupid breakfast/lunch shift.

masada 06-25-2006 03:11 PM

it's nice here i believe.

i may go to a band practice today. have yet to take a shower...

DeadReligion 06-25-2006 07:03 PM

Someone crit my piece's second draft...please.

EmergencyRoom 06-26-2006 03:48 AM

Hello all :wave:

I have to say that i'm really impressed by the "improve your writing" guide. It's well written, very helpful and extremely overdue. So well done subtle and atc for that.

On the topic of short stories (or possibly slightly off the topic), "The Picture Of Dorian Gray" by Oscar Wilde, although not exactly classically short is a beautifully written short novel. Almost every line reads like poetry without being written in any type of form or meter. The prologue by wilde alone is one of the thought provoking things i've ever read. I'd recommend it to anyone intrested in reading to improve their writing.

SubtleDagger 06-26-2006 04:16 AM

The real problem with the writing in this forum, mostly with the better writers, is that no one wants to look outside their idolatries and lyrical/poetic tastes. Too many people gather far too much of what they write from their associated peers, and that isn't constructive.

EmergencyRoom 06-26-2006 10:45 AM

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]The real problem with the writing in this forum, mostly with the better writers, is that no one wants to look outside their idolatries and lyrical/poetic tastes. Too many people gather far too much of what they write from their associated peers, and that isn't constructive.[/QUOTE]

I agree with that. IMO it's the same problem with musicians. Diversity of listening/reading is very important in order to create original/interesting work.

TojesDolan 06-26-2006 01:51 PM

OMG! What's up man.

Hadn't seen you around in a while. How's stuff.

EmergencyRoom 06-27-2006 03:20 AM

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan]OMG! What's up man.

Hadn't seen you around in a while. How's stuff.[/QUOTE]

:wave:

Haven't been here in a while. Busy at uni/writing music/attempting to get a band together. Haven't written lyrics for a while either. How's things with you?

DeadReligion 06-27-2006 08:42 AM

So just so you all know, I'm going to England/France for two weeks. I'll be back in...two weeks.

drumass04 06-27-2006 11:19 AM

Where abouts in England you heading to DR?

I haven't been around much in the last week or so, I've had a sudden loss of inspiration. Though it's beginning to come back, should get some crits in later this evening :)

Timmy

Minus The Flair 06-27-2006 12:31 PM

Don't go to England, you'll lose all your ability to write about bad government because ours is so damn perfect. ............. k

drumass04 06-27-2006 12:34 PM

Haha!!

Tell me some more jokes like that and I'll fall out of my chair!

(I live in England too :p)

Timmy

EmergencyRoom 06-27-2006 12:39 PM

[QUOTE=drumass04]Haha!!

Tell me some more jokes like that and I'll fall out of my chair!

(I live in England too :p)

Timmy[/QUOTE]

Gotta love those piss poor world powers...:p

Subtle: I was looking through your profile when i spotted that you like wolf eyes. You're the only other person that i've had contact with who actually likes them/him other than me. One of my friends actually nearly vomits at the sound of "stabbed in the face" :).

slack 06-27-2006 04:53 PM

Flow is such a dumb word.

misterglitch 06-27-2006 09:41 PM

Hey S&L forum!


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