That's crazy. I think I saw that book at the library today.

It's really good so far. Apparently Jim Morrison says he was sexually abused by a man (who remains nameless) who is very close to the family and his mom didn't beleive him. There's also a bit about his dad raping him. But the family lawyers deny all this.

i just bought the cream farewell dvd and the best of the faces. theyre both quite good.

That Cream Dvd is pretty cool. I got a copy free from my some promotional thing at my Brother's work.

the 60's rock we just recorded. Helion Magister:Vaquero. [url]www.helionmagister.com[/url]. but there's some strange raplike stuff and a slow song too. all on the same record but by the same people

this dvd is an instant return of faith in my belief that cream was the greatest ensemble ever.

I wish the quality was a little better, but I really can't ask for anything more than what it is. The music itself is amazing, I love watching those guys play.

[QUOTE=Lunch]I wish the quality was a little better, but I really can't ask for anything more than what it is. The music itself is amazing, I love watching those guys play.[/QUOTE]
yeah, im watching toad right now and its llike the editors were on drugs. random parts in slow motion?

Yea, and is it also on that Dvd where during the extended solos they cameras zoom in and out repeatedly? If so, that's really annoying.

[QUOTE=Lunch]Yea, and is it also on that Dvd where during the extended solos they cameras zoom in and out repeatedly? If so, that's really annoying.[/QUOTE]
it is indeed. haha.

Yea, oh well. I'm just glad there is some form of video documentation from Cream's years. Plus the music is outstanding.

Yeah I saw that farewell concert too, on a VHS. Directors in that day loved extreme closeups of the face and of different players other than the spotlight, and by zooming in and out and all that weird jazz that they thought was cool back then, but now its just dumb and stupid.

The thing that irked me most was that during all of Clapton's solos, the camera was on Bruce the whole time except for maybe 4 seconds total.......urg!

I'd like to see the Crossroads DVD with all the guitarists on it.

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]this dvd is an instant return of faith in my belief that cream was the greatest ensemble ever.[/QUOTE]

Why do you say 'ensemble' instead of band?

what would your definition of classic rock be anyway? Is it from the 70's?

[QUOTE=MyDarkRomeo]what would your definition of classic rock be anyway? Is it from the 70's?[/QUOTE]


I would say from 50's (Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, Elvis etc.) rock through the 70's and some of the 80's (80's being artists from the 60's 70's who kept making albums, like The Who or Pink Floyd, but not, for example, Madonna)

Everyone has a different opinion on this, though

[QUOTE=MyDarkRomeo]what would your definition of classic rock be anyway? Is it from the 70's?[/QUOTE]
A broad classification of highly diverse Rock made from 1965 to 1973. (<--IMO) Again this is a classification of Rock it really has no particular sound nor can it really have the title of being called a genre.

Examples of Classic Rock:

The Doors (Psychedelic, Blues Rock)
Grateful Dead (Psychedelic, Country Rock, Jam Rock)
Rolling Stones (Blues Rock)
Pink Floyd (Psychedelic, Progressive)
Bob Dylan (Folk, Blues Rock, Country)
The Beatles (Pop Rock, Psychedelic, Folk Rock)
The Who (Arena Rock, Hard Rock)
Black Sabbath (Hard Rock, Metal)

[QUOTE=clown_phobia]Why do you say 'ensemble' instead of band?[/QUOTE]
They don't mean the same thing. He likely said ensemble because he means they were the greatest ensemble, not the greatest band.

[QUOTE=clown_phobia]Why do you say 'ensemble' instead of band?[/QUOTE]
like rockandroll said, they mean different things to me. cream is not, in my opinion, the greatest band ever but they ARE the greatest ensemble ever. meaning that the way they interact with each other and the way they mesh is superior to me.

Would Blackfoot be considered a classic rock band, cause they have some kick *** songs? Not saying that kick *** songs make classic rock bands, just my opinion intertwined in a question.

Just bought-

Jefferson Airplane-Bless its Pointed Little Head
The Grateful Dead-Working Man's Dead
The Grateful Dead-Shakedown Street
Bob Dylan-Blood on the Tracks
Led Zeppelin-III

oooo, essentials in my opinion.

*'cept the 1st and 3rd which I do not own.

[QUOTE=Schyma]A broad classification of highly diverse Rock made from 1965 to 1973. (<--IMO) Again this is a classification of Rock it really has no particular sound nor can it really have the title of being called a genre.

Examples of Classic Rock:

The Doors (Psychedelic, Blues Rock)
Grateful Dead (Psychedelic, Country Rock, Jam Rock)
Rolling Stones (Blues Rock)
Pink Floyd (Psychedelic, Progressive)
Bob Dylan (Folk, Blues Rock, Country)
The Beatles (Pop Rock, Psychedelic, Folk Rock)
The Who (Arena Rock, Hard Rock)
Black Sabbath (Hard Rock, Metal)[/QUOTE]
Only to '73? Cutting it short a little, don't you think?

Also, though there are blues influences in a lot of Dylan songs I would never call him blues rock.

[QUOTE=jpj]Only to '73? Cutting it short a little, don't you think?[/QUOTE]
Not really but that's all opinion anyway I do think there was Classic Rock music being made after that but Classic Rock bands were created between those 2 years with very few exceptions. Can the [I]Division Bell[/I] be considered Classic Rock? It was made in the mid-90's but it was made by a Classic Rock band making it Classic Rock. It's really all opinion based though.

[QUOTE=jpj]

Also, though there are blues influences in a lot of Dylan songs I would never call him blues rock.[/QUOTE]

"Down The Highway" comes to mind, but I can't think of a ton of blues-ish Dylan songs.

[QUOTE=Livewired]Just bought-

Jefferson Airplane-Bless its Pointed Little Head
The Grateful Dead-Working Man's Dead
The Grateful Dead-Shakedown Street
Bob Dylan-Blood on the Tracks
Led Zeppelin-III[/QUOTE]

I thought you had BOTT :confused:

And Dylan had many blues influences, mainly John Lee Hooker whom he used to open for before he became big. However, his music was folk-rock with some blues influences, some of his songs have some blues guitar scales in them.

np- The Band- Don't Do It (Rock Of Ages) Robbie Robertson kicks ***.

[QUOTE=robo2448]I thought you had BOTT :confused:

And Dylan had many blues influences, mainly John Lee Hooker whom he used to open for before he became big. However, his music was folk-rock with some blues influences, some of his songs have some blues guitar scales in them.

np- The Band- Don't Do It (Rock Of Ages) Robbie Robertson kicks ***.[/QUOTE]
You should know that in this day and age you don't have to own an album to have it.

Using blues scales doesn't make you blues rock, just for the record.

[QUOTE=jpj]You should know that in this day and age you don't have to own an album to have it.

Using blues scales doesn't make you blues rock, just for the record.[/QUOTE]

Yea, but I thought Livewired said he owned it a while ago :confused:

I was saying that Dylan is folk-rock, but has blues influences which are somewhat shown in blues scales in some songs. I know Dylan is not blues-rock.

Edit- I'm listening to Surrealistic Pillow now, so I thought I'd ask, how's Bless It's Pointed Little Head?

its live isnt it?

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]its live isnt it?[/QUOTE]

Really? Airplane live must be great. Did they play at Woodstock?

Yes

[QUOTE=robo2448]np- The Band- Don't Do It (Rock Of Ages) Robbie Robertson kicks ***.[/QUOTE]

I have that on some other live Band album, "The Night they drove old dixie down". I like the Who's version of it better, though they're both good.

[QUOTE=jpj]You should know that in this day and age you don't have to own an album to have it.

Using blues scales doesn't make you blues rock, just for the record.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Pink Freud sent it to me awhile ago, but today I bought it fo' real. Anyways, live Airplane = teh [COLOR=White]s[/COLOR]hit

[QUOTE=Livewired]live Airplane = teh [COLOR=White]s[/COLOR]hit[/QUOTE]

That's what I hear.

Yea, I still want that live Airplane album, I'll get it after I get After Bathing at Baxter's.

All I have is Surrealistic Pillow. I think Volunteers will be next.

Volunteers is great, you should definitely get it.

Right now "Today" is is my favourite song.

I can't believe I missed the Final Poll! And how the hell could Cliff Burton win!? Poor Jack Bruce.

Jefferson Airplane are great live, although their studio work is wonderful as well. The only real problem with hearing live bands recorded from the 60's is it's usually pretty bad recording quality. Plus they didn't really have a lot of the things bands have these days (I don't think bands used monitors back then). The Jefferson Airplane were one of the best bands to see live in the sixties mainly because they played so many gigs, usually with the Grateful Dead. I can imagine a band would learn a thing or two about playing live if they've gigged with the Dead as much as Jefferson Airplane did.

[QUOTE=robo2448]Really? Airplane live must be great. Did they play at Woodstock?[/QUOTE]

Yeah they did, I saw it on the dvd!

Some good stuff on the dvd... Hendrix and The Who were my favourite and my favourite song was "See Me, Feel Me / Listening To You" by the who - the climax to their set that was played just as the sun rose on sunday morning.

:thumb:

Also, can someone please upload something by the Grateful Dead? Thanks in advance.