True, but I'm sure they'll still kick as[color=white]s[/color]

The problem is that believing that creates a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Take for example, say... The Misfits. When Glenn Danzig left the bad, they wanted to continue, and they picked up Michale Graves. Most of the old fans said that Danzig was The Misfits, and it would not be anywhere near as good without him. Thus far I haven't seen any of them admit they were wrong. Those that approached with curiosity and hope really liked the Graves era.

So to be realistic, Tarja had a distinctive voice, but she isn't the end-all of female vocalists. And according to Tuomas, she had very little creative input in the band, so the main difference will probably simply be a new voice.

But in their case, the voice was about 80% of their sound. I think the vocals are going to make it seem like a completely different band, even if the songwriting hasn't changed.

So long as it isn't Amy Lee or Christina Scabbia, that's good news. I really enjoy [i]Once[/i] as an album, and if for some reason I see Nightwish live in the future, it'll be weird hearing a different vocalist.

Well, now that I think about it, Tarja's voice changed drastically from album to album. I mean, it was full-blown operatic on an album like "Oceanborn" and much more poppy on the newer ones like "Once." So my faith is slightly restored.

It's just that Tarja had a huge fanclub in her own right, especially amongst the female fans.

I think they should hook up with some of the women that have performed on Ayreon albums, they tended to be very emotive and high-quality.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]The problem is that believing that creates a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Take for example, say... The Misfits. When Glenn Danzig left the bad, they wanted to continue, and they picked up Michale Graves. Most of the old fans said that Danzig was The Misfits, and it would not be anywhere near as good without him. Thus far I haven't seen any of them admit they were wrong. Those that approached with curiosity and hope really liked the Graves era.

So to be realistic, Tarja had a distinctive voice, but she isn't the end-all of female vocalists. And according to Tuomas, she had very little creative input in the band, so the main difference will probably simply be a new voice.[/QUOTE]

True enough, but take In Flames as an example, with Mikael Stanne they were pretty good, but Anders Friden fits their music so much better.

Another example would be Linkin Park, Mark Wakefield was a great singer, but Chester Bennington is a lot better of a singer (not as good of a song writer though).

[QUOTE=Jom]death on campus story[/QUOTE]
Wow, pretty scary.

Do you go to a smaller university?

What about Iron Maiden, for another example?

[QUOTE=Kurtz]Wow, pretty scary.

Do you go to a smaller university?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, actually.

But still, hooooooooooooly crap!

I was just told a story that the bridge didn't have as high of barriers as it does now, because in the early '80s some guy in a wheelchair picked himself up and threw himself in his chair off the bridge. Kind of like when the Nazis threw that old guy in his wheelchair off the balcony, except it's a fuc[size=2]king[/size] long way down to the bottom of the ravine (that was me referencing [i]The Pianist[/i] again).

[QUOTE=Jom]Yeah, actually.

But still, hooooooooooooly crap!

I was just told a story that the bridge didn't have as high of barriers as it does now, because in the early '80s some guy in a wheelchair picked himself up and threw himself in his chair off the bridge. Kind of like when the Nazis threw that old guy in his wheelchair off the balcony, except it's a fuc[size=2]king[/size] long way down to the bottom of the ravine (that was me referencing [i]The Pianist[/i] again).[/QUOTE]
How far down do you think?

That was an incredible movie, by the way.

[QUOTE=Cain]What about Iron Maiden, for another example?[/QUOTE]

How about:

Faith No More
Creed/Alter Bridge
Wuthering Heights
Savatage
Helloween
Gamma Ray

[QUOTE=Kurtz]How far down do you think?

That was an incredible movie, by the way.[/QUOTE]

At least 150 feet. I'm not talking Grand Canyon, but I'm saying that it takes a good amount of time for an object (such as an apple, if we're talking about Galileo here) to fall from the top of the bridge to the rocks below.

And yes, although we won't be able to finish the movie, I want to rent it ASAP so I can see what the hell happens.

[url]http://poststuffx.entensity.net/102105/media.php?media=crazybitch.wmv[/url]
rofl

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Some bands have turned out better with new singers though!

[QUOTE]Some bands have turned out better with new singers though![/QUOTE]

Van Halen didn't.

[QUOTE=Mister Blue Sky]Van Halen didn't.[/QUOTE]

Ahem...

[QUOTE=Steerpike]How about:

Faith No More
Creed/Alter Bridge
Wuthering Heights
Savatage
Helloween
Gamma Ray[/QUOTE]

Alex, how's it going with that one girl who you cooked for but then you found out she smokes? Are you still talking to her, or did you move on to another girl?

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Creed/Alter Bridge[/QUOTE]

Good call on this one. Scott Stapp isn't very cool.

Not on and off, but 20 minutes straight?

Where is your brother?

Go wake his ass up!

Let us know how it goes, of course.

Oh, hey, is that long user title page still available?

[QUOTE=Mister Blue Sky]Van Halen didn't.[/QUOTE]

Nothing could save that crap festival.

[QUOTE=Jom]Alex, how's it going with that one girl who you cooked for but then you found out she smokes? Are you still talking to her, or did you move on to another girl?[/QUOTE]

I talk with her now and again, but it's pretty clear she knows I'm not interested anymore.

For now, I'm keeping my eye open.

Don't take the smokers, eh?

[QUOTE=xizoesira]Don't take the smokers, eh?[/QUOTE]

Can't stand it. The smell nauseates me, the smoke irritates me instantly on contact, and the health ramifications scare me.

And though she's cute and all, I don't like her enough to want to put up with her if and when I ever hypothetically convinced her to quit and the withdrawal kicks in.

I enjoy cigarette smoke, but I hate the taste.

Try pipe tobacco, then.

I'm gonna go to sleep.

'Night thread.

[QUOTE=Mister Blue Sky]I'm gonna go to sleep.

'Night thread.[/QUOTE]
Same here

Waiting... is a good movie. I recommend it to anyone with a dirty mind.

[QUOTE=Arucard]
Leicester is so much better than my town, although its very expensive. I spent £5 ($9?) on a vodka martini :\[/QUOTE]

I have to wonder why you would want a vodka martini.

[QUOTE=Bartender]I have to wonder why you would want a vodka martini.[/QUOTE]
It has alcohol in it.

Meh, I suppose you had to Alex...I haven't seen the object of my current affections for a few days now...I don't often say this, but Blast the school holidays!

NP-Tool-Prison sex

Today I bought Evil Dead and The Lost Boys. They were both on sale because of Halloween. Bram Stoker's Dracula was there too, but I want to see it before I buy it.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]It has alcohol in it.[/QUOTE]

So does a regular martini.

I went shopping again :)

I got the new Football manager game, neverwinter nights and Nightwish- [I]oceanborn [/I]and [I]century child[/I]

/had no idea about Tarja at the time...coincidence, eh?

[QUOTE=Bartender]So does a regular martini.[/QUOTE]
But it stands to reason that two drinks would have twice as much alcohol as one.

Poor logic++

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Can't stand it. The smell nauseates me, the smoke irritates me instantly on contact, and the health ramifications scare me.

And though she's cute and all, I don't like her enough to want to put up with her if and when I ever hypothetically convinced her to quit and the withdrawal kicks in.[/QUOTE]

That's pretty silly, I smoke but I hardly ever smoke around my girlfriend, except in pubs, where there is smoke anyway.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]But it stands to reason that two drinks would have twice as much alcohol as one.

Poor logic++[/QUOTE]

Two drinks?

/confused

Neverwinter Nights is a good game, anyway. Except for that psychotic penguin.

i prefer vodka to gin. perhaps he does too.

[QUOTE=Bartender]Two drinks?

/confused[/QUOTE]
Vodka + Martini = Vodka Martini

Like I said, poor logic.

This is about as confusing as the MEAP tests.

The list of "songs everyone likes" is gayer than gay.