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Soul_Under_Arrest 05-17-2006 01:39 PM

When I get home I'll pull the article out of my Guitar World with Kirk on it. Kirk says something about it. If I remember correct, MoP wasn't even written (song and lyric wise) before they entered the studio and Kirk said Mustaine wasn't even in the same country so he couldn't have written any part of it. Kirk said he and James played parts of it in a different key as a warm up joke.

Aw3someman 05-17-2006 05:31 PM

[QUOTE=Soul_Under_Arrest]When I get home I'll pull the article out of my Guitar World with Kirk on it. Kirk says something about it. If I remember correct, MoP wasn't even written (song and lyric wise) before they entered the studio and Kirk said Mustaine wasn't even in the same country so he couldn't have written any part of it. Kirk said he and James played parts of it in a different key as a warm up joke.[/QUOTE]
Umm... I remember Mustaine saying something like he showed James how to do the riffs that eventually became MOP. The whole thing is that MOP has a distinctly different sound compared to the rest of the album (i.e. the riffs and the speed) And Mustaine claims that he wrote it before he got kicked out.

Soul_Under_Arrest 05-17-2006 06:34 PM

Kirk is saying in GW that he and Hetfield made those riffs up.

heavy metal kid 05-17-2006 07:10 PM

[QUOTE=Aw3someman] The whole thing is that MOP has a distinctly different sound compared to the rest of the album (i.e. the riffs and the speed) And Mustaine claims that he wrote it before he got kicked out.[/QUOTE]

actually, MOP sounds like some songs in AJFA, and that was Mustaine-less.
MOP also doesn't sound to Megadeth or anything written by Dave at any era.

Jev 05-18-2006 04:34 AM

Dave never claimed to writing the actual song Master of Puppets.
He claimed writing part of Leper messiah, only because it used his spider riff technique that he claimed to had invented.

Squirrel 05-18-2006 05:49 AM

No, he later claimed part of MoP were his.

Jev 05-18-2006 05:53 AM

Oh okay.
I never heard about that.

Enlighten Me 05-18-2006 09:09 AM

You're telling me Dave wrote part of MoP?
Kinda crazy since it's around 4 years after he left..

Jev 05-18-2006 12:24 PM

I like Mustaine but there's no way I believe it.

Rattlehead 05-18-2006 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=Enlighten Me]You're telling me Dave wrote part of MoP?
Kinda crazy since it's around 4 years after he left..[/QUOTE]
the riffs obviously extend far beyond publishing. they were seemingly revived in the making of MOP.

Stormrider 05-18-2006 01:18 PM

What the hell is this Spider riff anyways ?

Jev 05-18-2006 01:20 PM

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]What the hell is this Spider riff anyways ?[/QUOTE]

Say the song goes like this

D-9--
A-7--10
E-----8

Instead of using fingers 1&3 or 1&4 on both chords, you use 1&3 on the E5 and 2&4 on the C5.
It's quicker and cleaner once learnt properly.



I think I may be wrong but i swear Dave said it was this.

Stormrider 05-18-2006 01:25 PM

Oh, it sounds harder really :-/

I only use 1&3 for power chords.

Quickdrop 05-18-2006 05:35 PM

[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8916578642569432354&q=kirk+hammett[/url]

i assume this is Deep Purple they're covering. Anybody know what song?

Britton 05-18-2006 05:36 PM

[QUOTE=Flower Dance]Say the song goes like this

D-9--
A-7--10
E-----8

Instead of using fingers 1&3 or 1&4 on both chords, you use 1&3 on the E5 and 2&4 on the C5.
It's quicker and cleaner once learnt properly.



I think I may be wrong but i swear Dave said it was this.[/QUOTE]



I think that's right. I'm sure we could find a lesson on youtube.

I want to learn another Tallica song. I have basically all the classics down so if ya'll would name some of the lesser known songs that are fun to play I would be very greatfull

heavy metal kid 05-18-2006 06:18 PM

[QUOTE=Quickdrop][url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8916578642569432354&q=kirk+hammett[/url]

i assume this is Deep Purple they're covering. Anybody know what song?[/QUOTE]


The song's name is Mistreated.

Jev 05-19-2006 09:51 AM

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Oh, it sounds harder really :-/

I only use 1&3 for power chords.[/QUOTE]
It's difficult for me because I use 1&4 for powerchords, but I guess if I took some time to learn it properly It would be easier than having to move my 1st&4th to another string.


Britton - tried metal militia?

Joe 05-19-2006 01:41 PM

The only role Dave played in MOP is the "spider riff" that he "invented." Speaking of that, I'm now in charge of the recording studio at my school and the first thing i recorded was MOP. How are you guys doing?

Jev 05-19-2006 04:01 PM

Doing good here.
Any recordings of it?

PepsiMetal 05-19-2006 07:41 PM

Not sure if it's been talked, but Kirk said they have 15 songs done. So I guess maybe a couple more and they're ready to choose which ones go on the album?

[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2614025375927358696&q=metallica[/url]

Chu 05-20-2006 01:53 AM

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]Not sure if it's been talked, but Kirk said they have 15 songs done. So I guess maybe a couple more and they're ready to choose which ones go on the album?

[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2614025375927358696&q=metallica[/url][/QUOTE]
Dude, that's awesome, thanks :)

ever eeking always rupert 05-20-2006 03:36 AM

Who want's to see my new song? It is influenced by songs from the MOP-AJFA era, structure-wise, but it isn't very dark. Feels more like a TBA song. Opinions?
[url]http://actor.loquendo.com/actordemo/ausiliari/waveforms/2005_898757042_111927_5820.wav[/url]

Rattlehead 05-20-2006 04:25 AM

[QUOTE=ever eeking always rupert]Who want's to see my new song? It is influenced by songs from the MOP-AJFA era, structure-wise, but it isn't very dark. Feels more like a TBA song. Opinions?
[url]http://actor.loquendo.com/actordemo/ausiliari/waveforms/2005_898757042_111927_5820.wav[/url][/QUOTE]
wtf, either a bad link or a bit of spammage.

Jev 05-20-2006 05:05 AM

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]Not sure if it's been talked, but Kirk said they have 15 songs done. So I guess maybe a couple more and they're ready to choose which ones go on the album?

[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2614025375927358696&q=metallica[/url][/QUOTE]
Why can't they give us all 15 :angry:

Apocalyptic Raids 05-20-2006 06:03 AM

because a couple probably aren't that great.

Jev 05-20-2006 07:04 AM

True...
Anyone know where you can get ahold of fan cans?

Joe 05-20-2006 08:41 AM

[QUOTE=Flower Dance]Doing good here.
Any recordings of it?[/QUOTE]

Well I might post it, but probably not. The other guy that I'm playing with can't play it that well... I might just go in and change everything and then post it.

15 songs? Remember, they had something like 23 for St. Anger.

Jev 05-20-2006 08:48 AM

They had that real sucky one that they kept playing before James left on SKOM.
I'm glad they didn't use that one.

timmySmi 05-20-2006 11:09 AM

I've recorded the whole bass tracks of AJFA, Black Album, Load, Reload currently working on RTL but need to get my Wah pedal fixed so I can play Bellz and Ktulu. If anyone needs a bass track from any of those albums I've recorded just tell me.

Stormrider 05-20-2006 07:32 PM

NP Fight Fire With Fire

Ahh, havn't listened to this in a while... :)

carr 05-21-2006 09:26 AM

why are dragonforce so bad
 
im so angry am i the only one in the world that thinks that all there songs sound that there from a video game :angry: :angry: :angry:

Jev 05-21-2006 09:32 AM

[QUOTE=carr]im so angry am i the only one in the world that thinks that all there songs sound that there from a video game :angry: :angry: :angry:[/QUOTE]
What does that have to do with Metallica?

MRDuCran 05-21-2006 02:26 PM

[QUOTE=timmySmi]I've recorded the whole bass tracks of AJFA, Black Album, Load, Reload currently working on RTL but need to get my Wah pedal fixed so I can play Bellz and Ktulu. If anyone needs a bass track from any of those albums I've recorded just tell me.[/QUOTE]

That's pretty awesome, could we hear some samples?

PepsiMetal 05-21-2006 02:56 PM

Anyone seen this Mustaine CNN interview? I thought it was interesting.

He says there are 2 rhythm guitar players that play as good as him, guy from metallica (James doh), and guy from AC/DC (M. Young?).

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuMBKNfiYvg&search=dave%20mustaine[/url]

Here's Nickelback playing the four horsemen. :amaze:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QSBD9EZT34&search=james%20hetfield[/url]

Kickflip_Burrito 05-21-2006 06:34 PM

[QUOTE=Flower Dance]True...
Anyone know where you can get ahold of fan cans?[/QUOTE]
They're extremely rare, ebay if you're lucky. A record store if you're very lucky. I once saw one in HMV in Oxford Street, London, a couple years ago or so. It was summin like 60 quid or so.

[QUOTE=Flower Dance]They had that real sucky one that they kept playing before James left on SKOM.
I'm glad they didn't use that one.[/QUOTE]
It was called 'Temptation' wasn't it?

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]
Here's Nickelback playing the four horsemen. :amaze:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QSBD9EZT34&search=james%20hetfield[/url][/QUOTE]
That was actually pretty darn awesome, the drummer played it better than Lars!

MRDuCran 05-21-2006 07:08 PM

I liked that.

Sadbutrue16 05-21-2006 08:59 PM

Nice cover by Nickelback

Chu 05-22-2006 12:46 AM

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]He says there are 2 rhythm guitar players that play as good as him, guy from metallica (James doh), and guy from AC/DC (M. Young?).[/QUOTE]
Mustaine is so pro.

I'm Charming 05-22-2006 01:11 AM

[QUOTE=Kickflip_Burrito]They're extremely rare, ebay if you're lucky. A record store if you're very lucky. I once saw one in HMV in Oxford Street, London, a couple years ago or so. It was summin like 60 quid or so.


It was called 'Temptation' wasn't it?


That was actually pretty darn awesome, the drummer played it better than Lars![/QUOTE]


Almost anyone can play better than Lars. That's a fact.

I heard that song on SKOM DVD, I actually thought it was better than most of St. Anger.

Lionheart1827 05-22-2006 01:36 AM

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QSBD9EZT34&search=james%20hetfield[/url][/QUOTE]

I thought that was awesome. Kroeger's voice seems like it could be awesome for metallica songs. I'd love to see them cover some of their songs in full.:thumb:


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