Oh, and with Traffic you also can get to Harrison, since Dave Mason played on Harrison's [b]All Things Must Pass[/b] and from there you can trace it to Clapton again. It's all circles.

[QUOTE=slowhand]Oh, and with Traffic you also can get to Harrison, since Dave Mason played on Harrison's [b]All Things Must Pass[/b] and from there you can trace it to Clapton again. It's all circles.[/QUOTE]

and it goes in circles again, because peter frampton also played on some harrison records. he was in the small faces with ron wood, steve marriot, rod stewart, and some other ppl's (keith moon's replacement among them), humble pie, and the herd. rod stewart was the original singer of the jeff beck group. jeff beck was with the yardbirds w/ clapton and page.

Oh, and Jim Capaldi from Traffic, also played with Harrison.

yea stuff isn't nearly as interesting today

We should get out there and make interesting again!

Someday, Someday.

Hopefully.

Though I'm seeing a bit of it once in a while. John Frusciante and Flea from RHCP appeared on the Mars Volta new CD.

Maybe there's still hope out there.

there are still connections, I get a very different feel though for some reason.

[QUOTE=slowhand]Oh, and Jim Capaldi from Traffic, also played with Harrison.[/QUOTE]

Harrison played with everyone, that slut...

Hey...



.... you're mean.

Let's chit chat about Tom Petty.

Do you guys like him better with or without The Heartbreakers. I think Full Moon Fever album is amazing, dare I say perfect? No, because of song 6 where it pauses for people with records and tapes lol. The only live album I have is at the Plantation, studio stuff I have Full Moon Fever, Into the Great Wide Open*,Southern Accents*, and Wildflowers. * Means with Heartbreakers.

I like Tom Petty. All I have is a greatest hits though.

[QUOTE=RockAndRoll]We should get out there and make interesting again!

Someday, Someday.[/QUOTE]
Maybe someday soon, somewhere.-- [url=http://www.eric-clapton.co.uk/ecla/lyrics/thorn-tree-in-the-garden.html]Thorn Tree in the Garden[/url], Derek and the Dominoes.

Bustin' out the Bobby Whitlock quotage. :)

Whatever happened to Bobby Whitlock? I liked the stuff he did on Layla and OALS.

Although, if good rock became popular, it would probably get pretty bad.

I like him, but have never bought an album so can't really comment.

[QUOTE=RobNY]Maybe someday soon, somewhere.-- [url=http://www.eric-clapton.co.uk/ecla/lyrics/thorn-tree-in-the-garden.html]Thorn Tree in the Garden[/url], Derek and the Dominoes.

Bustin' out the Bobby Whitlock quotage. :)

Whatever happened to Bobby Whitlock? I liked the stuff he did on Layla and OALS.

Although, if good rock became popular,[b] it would probably get pretty bad.[/b][/QUOTE]

That happens to good music when it gets popular. Suits get more interested in making generic bands that sound like that, and don't care about the music. It then just becomse total crap.

Hey anyone know of a good song that sounds cool and is pretty easy to play cause I am a new learner to the guitar and have been playing for about 3 months and have taught myself how to read tabs and play chords but I need to know a good song to play! can you guys tell me one please! It can be any type of classic rock! or any rock!

Mountain Jam by the Allman Brothers.

[QUOTE=slowhand]That happens to good music when it gets popular. Suits get more interested in making generic bands that sound like that, and don't care about the music. It then just becomse total crap.[/QUOTE]
You expect them to care about the music? They're in the industry for profits, and nice music is often simply a bonus.

That's why music can go through such cycles sometimes. Like any other industry, it finds something that is needed, and then mass-produces. Unfortunately, this has a very bad effect. See hair metal.

Currently, selling music is 75% about image. Image which we can divide mainly into sex appeal and "cool" factor. The former primarily for the Brittney Spears type, and the latter primarily for the rap, in my opinion, at least.

The real weakness-- and the real strength-- in the equation is the consumer. Eventually the consumer gets tired of the toxic sludge that is being pumped out and moves on to something else. On the other hand, the consumer is the one that supported that in the first place. Some consumers lead, most of them follow.

Let's be thankful about one thing: this market is big enough to support our own niche as long as we live. And maybe a new niche will be created that is also good. We can hope. That's the one plus about the mass produced music industry. The bigger an industry, the more niches there can be. The unfortunate effect is that the vast majority of the music is lower quality, but, there's still a lot of quality, if you look for it.

Now, this is getting dangerously close to an economics... and from there... a political discussion... so, I'm going to shut up. I don't want a fight over that developing...


MuffinMan: join the legions of guitar players who learned Day Tripper (the Beatles) as their first song. :)

Rather than have us tell you what to play, tell us what you like, and we can pick out an easy song by that artist.

That's precisely what I wanted to say, but in a less-educatic way.

Anyways, there's gonna start an underground movement which goes completely against what its today's popular culture. Or, easier put, a counter-culture movement. It happen with disco (punk) and it gave rise to rock again. It even happened to hair metal (grunge). I'm assuming that's what'll happen with rap music. Rock seems to be always part of counter-cultures.

RobNY, you make some good points.

[QUOTE=slowhand]That's precisely what I wanted to say, but in a less-educatic way.

Anyways, there's gonna start an underground movement which goes completely against what its today's popular culture. Or, easier put, a counter-culture movement. It happen with disco (punk) and it gave rise to rock again. It even happened to hair metal (grunge). I'm assuming that's what'll happen with rap music. Rock seems to be always part of counter-cultures.[/QUOTE]
the problem is rock is also part of the culture now, it'd have to be a new form of rock.

[QUOTE=RockAndRoll]the problem is rock is also part of the culture now, it'd have to be a new form of rock.[/QUOTE]

Yes. That's the interesting part, and why rock music will live forever. It has always been able to expand into many different branches. Rock is a multi-faceted genre which has more longivity and more appeal than any other before it (I mean that in a popular way, since things like jazz, country and blues, as well as classical, is still around and heard by a vast minority <-- don't mind the paradox).

[QUOTE=slowhand]That's precisely what I wanted to say, but in a less-educatic way.

Anyways, there's gonna start an underground movement which goes completely against what its today's popular culture. Or, easier put, a counter-culture movement. It happen with disco (punk) and it gave rise to rock again. It even happened to hair metal (grunge). I'm assuming that's what'll happen with rap music. Rock seems to be always part of counter-cultures.[/QUOTE]
It would be so great if rock came back... oh... and real solos in modern songs too... hah, I guess I have a soft spot for guitar solos. :)

I think the problem is that those of us whose sympathies lie with older music, like classic rock, will never accept modern rock-- even if it is good-- as being legitimate. We'll just rave about the good old days (even though the good old days were decades before I was born). Not that I don't want and hope for a rebirth of rock music...

[QUOTE]RobNY, you make some good points.[/QUOTE]
Thanks.

The great thing is that new rock will be able to cultivate all the best parts of jazz, blues, and classic rock-- if the new musicians are smart-- and make something even better. Man, am I abusing those dashes in my writing today! Yes, we need a musical genius like Hendrix, or a super-talented group like the Beatles to lead a "revolution" though. (I think the innovation of men like Hendrix or groups like the beatles is just awe-inspiring... and there must be a mind somewhere just waiting to ride the wave of change in the right direction...)

So you guys feel that a musical revolution is coming soon? I sure hope so.

Well, I've just listened to the Mars Volta, and have found a new faith in modern rock.

If you are willing to look, good music will always be out there. It's just a shame that most of music on the radio is complete bullshi[size=2]t[/size].

the band that gave me new faith in music is trans-siberian orchestra

*cough*
Any of you want to help me restore my faith in modern music? *cough*

[QUOTE]So you guys feel that a musical revolution is coming soon? I sure hope so.[/QUOTE]
One has to happen-- but how, or what, or when, I don't know.

Get the Mars Volta - [b]Frances the Mute[/b]

You won't regret it. It only cost me 10 bucks for 77 minutes of great progressive music.

[QUOTE=RobNY]*cough*
Any of you want to help me restore my faith in modern music? *cough*


One has to happen-- but how, or what, or when, I don't know.[/QUOTE]

Radiohead restored my faith.

[QUOTE=slowhand]Get the Mars Volta - [b]Frances the Mute[/b]

You won't regret it.[/QUOTE]

How does it compare to Deloused?