Out of the current topic:

I've just finished reading this review for [b]Dark Side of the Moon[/b], since I have nothing better to do now, and this guys from NME compares it to Harrison's [b]All Things Must Pass[/b]. He says: "[b]Dark Side of the Moon[/b] is the unhappy son of [b]All Things Must Pass[/b]." Then he goes on to explain why.

I posted this because it's really weird seeing the connections between musicians that I like. And Harrison seems to be in the middle of all of it. It was basically Harrison who introduced me to Eric Clapton, and then Clapton went on to introduce me to other things. And now, with Pink Floyd, things seem to have come around full-circle.

... Yeah.

[QUOTE=slowhand]Out of the current topic:

I've just finished reading this review for [b]Dark Side of the Moon[/b], since I have nothing better to do now, and this guys from NME compares it to Harrison's [b]All Things Must Pass[/b]. He says: "[b]Dark Side of the Moon[/b] is the unhappy son of [b]All Things Must Pass[/b]." Then he goes on to explain why.

I posted this because it's really weird seeing the connections between musicians that I like. And Harrison seems to be in the middle of all of it. It was basically Harrison who introduced me to Eric Clapton, and then Clapton went on to introduce me to other things. And now, with Pink Floyd, things seem to have come around full-circle.

... Yeah.[/QUOTE]
I picture Harrison just coming up to you and saying "ey mate this ere's a guy named clapton, shake hands meet im, and I'll be on me way.

but ya there are tons of connections between musicians back then. Ringo + Keith = mates.

[QUOTE]ey mate this ere's[/QUOTE]

He's English, not Austrailan :p

Yeah, that's one of the things I like about that era in music. Musicians seem to be interested in others and help each other out. Today it seems that they're just competing against each other.

And I would have love that Harrison would have introduced me to Clapton personally. I mean, two of my idols in person. That would have been awesome.

But of course, what I meant with Harrison introducing me to Clapton is that I read a few biographies about Harrison, and Clapton's name always came up, along with his superband, Cream. And it made me curious, so that's how I got into Cream.

[QUOTE=slowhand]Yeah, that's one of the things I like about that era in music. Musicians seem to be interested in others and help each other out. Today it seems that they're just competing against each other.

And I would have love that Harrison would have introduced me to Clapton personally. I mean, two of my idols in person. That would have been awesome.

But of course, what I meant with Harrison introducing me to Clapton is that I read a few biographies about Harrison, and Clapton's name always came up, along with his superband, Cream. And it made me curious, so that's how I got into Cream.[/QUOTE]
hahaha I know. I dream of somehow bringing those days back. Well not the exact same ones ofcourse, just ones that I can love like those.

[QUOTE=RockAndRoll]top 100s are stupid anyways.


<-- has voted and is being hypocritical.[/QUOTE]

I can't remember how the last 100 poll turned out, I just know it wasn't terrible. This one will determine how much faith I have in the top 100s on MX.

The problem with top 100s is everybody has a different idea of what makes the best. In classic rock there are so many different things that make a group great (skill, influence, lyrics, instrumentals, live preformace, etc). The only reason they exist really is so people can dissagree with them (well the ones on MX seem to be more for fun)

[QUOTE=slowhand]Yeah, that's one of the things I like about that era in music. Musicians seem to be interested in others and help each other out. Today it seems that they're just competing against each other.

And I would have love that Harrison would have introduced me to Clapton personally. I mean, two of my idols in person. That would have been awesome.

But of course, what I meant with Harrison introducing me to Clapton is that I read a few biographies about Harrison, and Clapton's name always came up, along with his superband, Cream. And it made me curious, so that's how I got into Cream.[/QUOTE]
Ah, I like how these musicians were all connected in some way. Imagine seeing any two of these great guitarists at once?

I always think that, the day Stevie Ray Vaughan died, he had just been playing with Clapton and other greats. Imagine getting to see both of them playing together live... whoo... makes me shiver.

Why do so many good artists have to die... either they choke on their vomit or fly into a mountain. ("I dunno Chuck, the mountain just jumped out of nowhere!")

[QUOTE=RobNY]Ah, I like how these musicians were all connected in some way. Imagine seeing any two of these great guitarists at once?

I always think that, the day Stevie Ray Vaughan died, he had just been playing with Clapton and other greats. Imagine getting to see both of them playing together live... whoo... makes me shiver.

Why do so many good artists have to die... either they choke on their vomit or fly into a mountain. ("I dunno Chuck, the mountain just jumped out of nowhere!")[/QUOTE]
thats why i like the clapton crossroads dvd. blues greats jamming together. clapton, buddy guy, bb king, jimmy vaughan, robert cray. all together. good times.

How about how Jack Bruce was in the Bluesbreakers, and later Clapton joined. Then Bruce and Ginger Baker were both in the Graham Bond Blues Band, then they left, and Baker invited Clapton and Bruce into a new band, forming Cream. And even after that, Clapton and Baker formed Blind Faith.

And that's only those three.

They were all enemies too. And wasn't Jack Bruce with Manfred Mann after he left John Mayall?

Yea but I left that out because I wasn't sure if any of the other two were involved in Manfred Mann's band. But I guess that was before he joined Graham Bond.

I wasn't trying to correct you, I was just wanting to make sure I was right with my assumption. :)

No, I understand. Actually that presents another trivia oppurtunity :thumb: :

The Bluesbreaker's song "Double Crossing Time" was originally called "Double Crossing Mann" after Jack Bruce, who left the band for Manfred Mann's band. (Notice the spelling of "Mann" in the title ;) )

Guys, just don't look back to the yardbirds or you'll really get cardiac arrest at all the connections. :)

[QUOTE=RobNY]Guys, just don't look back to the yardbirds or you'll really get cardiac arrest at all the connections. :)[/QUOTE]

indeed you will. Its like a heart attack of euphoria

I was lookin at the yardbirds greatest hits CD today, and its amazing how young clapton beck and page look on the back cover. They all still looked like they were teenagers.

I bought Live-Aid DVD today for cheap. 4 DVDs of great bands playing live. I was reading the list...and theirs so many great ones I didnt know performed their, but theres some it couldve used too, But whatever. Has anybody seen the whole thing in its entirety?

[QUOTE=magicbus]No, I understand. Actually that presents another trivia oppurtunity :thumb: :

The Bluesbreaker's song "Double Crossing Time" was originally called "Double Crossing Mann" after Jack Bruce, who left the band for Manfred Mann's band. (Notice the spelling of "Mann" in the title ;) )[/QUOTE]

Imagine how John Mayall felt when his star guitarist, Eric Clapton left? It was double crossing time all over again for John Mayall. And the worst part is how he was informed.

This appeared suddenly on [i]Melody Maker[/i] on June 11, 1966:

"A sensational new 'groups' group' starring Eric Clapton, Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker is being formed. Top groups will be losing star instrumentalists as a result. Manfred Mann will lose bassist, harmonica player, pianist and singer Jack Bruce; John Mayall will lose brilliant blues guitarist Eric Clapton; and Graham Bond's Organisation will lose incredible drummer Ginger Baker. The group say they hope to start playing at clubs, ballrooms and theatres in a month's time. It is expected they will remain as a trio with Jack as featured vocalist."

Just imagine you receiving such information in this way. I mean, Mayall must have been a bit mad about this, specially after seeing that Bruce was involved in it too. He must've thought that Bruce was the one who took Clapton from him.

[QUOTE=B0nz0]ok ok, i admit it, i'm a classic rock nut. i love led zeppelin, the beatles, the who, eric clapton, the doors, and so on. most of the bands i listen to broke up years before i was born. at 17, nearly every song on my playlist is older than me. but is it just my imagination, or is classic rock experiencing sort of a revival. i am running into an increasing number of classic rock fans my age. at my school (an all boys high school), the school newspaper took a poll of everyone's favorite genre and band. led zeppeling got 5th and the beatles got 6th, behind that rap crap. classic rock made up a large percent of ppls favorite genre. is this just by me, or are other ppl noticing this too?


This is the thread for general classic rock discussion.[/QUOTE]

- I know what you mean dude, I love all those bands too. But there have been people who started liking them at my school cause I introduced Classic Rock to them.....

[QUOTE=slowhand]Imagine how John Mayall felt when his star guitarist, Eric Clapton left? It was double crossing time all over again for John Mayall. And the worst part is how he was informed.

This appeared suddenly on [i]Melody Maker[/i] on June 11, 1966:

"A sensational new 'groups' group' starring Eric Clapton, Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker is being formed. Top groups will be losing star instrumentalists as a result. Manfred Mann will lose bassist, harmonica player, pianist and singer Jack Bruce; John Mayall will lose brilliant blues guitarist Eric Clapton; and Graham Bond's Organisation will lose incredible drummer Ginger Baker. The group say they hope to start playing at clubs, ballrooms and theatres in a month's time. It is expected they will remain as a trio with Jack as featured vocalist."

Just imagine you receiving such information in this way. I mean, Mayall must have been a bit mad about this, specially after seeing that Bruce was involved in it too. He must've thought that Bruce was the one who took Clapton from him.[/QUOTE]


i would be pissed. i still can't believe cream formed to begin with, i mean with baker and bruce's history together. i remember hearing about one incedent when they were both with the graham bond organization that jack bruce screwed up on stage. his reward was ginger's stick hitting him rather hard in the face. bruce retaliated by smashing his upright bass over baker's drum set, destroying both. they then had a fist fight and had to be seperated. I WANNA SEE A CONCERT LIKE THAT!

And all these connections are just in the blues rock British scene. There's a whole different world of them in the San Francisco/California scene. I'm sure Badmoon can tell everyone all about it.

[QUOTE=B0nz0]i would be pissed. i still can't believe cream formed to begin with, i mean with baker and bruce's history together. i remember hearing about one incedent when they were both with the graham bond organization that jack bruce screwed up on stage. his reward was ginger's stick hitting him rather hard in the face. bruce retaliated by smashing his upright bass over baker's drum set, destroying both. they then had a fist fight and had to be seperated. I WANNA SEE A CONCERT LIKE THAT![/QUOTE]

Yeah, I think that happened because Jack told Ginger he was playing too loud. Ginger got pissed at that, and he also thought that Jack's bass playing was too 'busy.' So, to make him stop, and to liberate his anger, he threw the stick at Jack.

The only reason that Cream formed was because they both were excited to start a band with Clapton. Ginger wanted it, and Clapton asked who would be the bassist, Ginger told him he hadn't think of one, and Clapton thought that Jack would do. Clapton didn't know the history behind Bruce and Baker. If not, I don't think Cream would've formed.

[QUOTE=lunch998]And all these connections are just in the blues rock British scene. There's a whole different world of them in the San Francisco/California scene. I'm sure Badmoon can tell everyone all about it.[/QUOTE]

yea, and they haven't even discussed the connections of jeff beck, steve winwood and peter frampton. those guys have a bunch as well...

[QUOTE=B0nz0]yea, and they haven't even discussed the connections of jeff beck, steve winwood and peter frampton. those guys have a bunch as well...[/QUOTE]

Winwood definitely has a lot of them.

[QUOTE=slowhand]Yeah, I think that happened because Jack told Ginger he was playing too loud. Ginger got pissed at that, and he also thought that Jack's bass playing was too 'busy.' So, to make him stop, and to liberate his anger, he threw the stick at Jack.

The only reason that Cream formed was because they both were excited to start a band with Clapton. Ginger wanted it, and Clapton asked who would be the bassist, Ginger told him he hadn't think of one, and Clapton thought that Jack would do. Clapton didn't know the history behind Bruce and Baker. If not, I don't think Cream would've formed.[/QUOTE]
my point however was how bad@ss would that be to see.

and i was suprised by the fact that ginger and jack could get over their differences for that 2 year period to make fantastic music

[QUOTE=B0nz0]my point however was how bad@ss would that be to see.

and i was suprised by the fact that ginger and jack could get over their differences for that 2 year period to make fantastic music[/QUOTE]

Here's how it went, in Jack's own words:

'I said "Shhhhhhh..." and he started throwing drumsticks at me, hitting me on the head. So I took my bass, lifted it, and chucked it at him. That demolished that, and we were rolling around the stage fighting. We punched the hell out of each other on stage'.


Well, I mean, I would've gone over differences with my worst enemy, if it meant I would play with Clapton. It was just something that excited the three of them, but I guess the excitment wore off.

[QUOTE=lunch998]Winwood definitely has a lot of them.[/QUOTE]

spencer davis group, traffic, blind faith, ginger baker's airforce, yea that's a lot

"Welcome tot he Machine" is a quote taken from Con Air said by Sirus the Virus, Jon Malkovich.

And with Blind Faith and Traffic you get Rick Grech, who played with the Family.

[QUOTE=B0nz0]spencer davis group, traffic, blind faith, ginger baker's airforce, yea that's a lot[/QUOTE]

He played on Axis: Bold As Love aswell. It's cool to read the CD booklet and find things like that, where other musicians you know came in to do studio work for an album.

[QUOTE=slowhand]Here's how it went, in Jack's own words:

'I said "Shhhhhhh..." and he started throwing drumsticks at me, hitting me on the head. So I took my bass, lifted it, and chucked it at him. That demolished that, and we were rolling around the stage fighting. We punched the hell out of each other on stage'.


Well, I mean, I would've gone over differences with my worst enemy, if it meant I would play with Clapton. It was just something that excited the three of them, but I guess the excitment wore off.[/QUOTE]
lol i would have paid to see that