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NJMetalMeister 08-21-2005 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=the2stranger]Rudi Carell or how ever you speel his name as an awesome accent

my german spelling sucks though, I can speak it quite well, but than again, I only live about 5 kilometers from the german border[/QUOTE]

anywhere near maastricht? we used to go there ALL the time.

ArcLite 08-21-2005 02:35 PM

Thanks for all the compliments, guys. Now that I have MX approval I can ride with true peace of mind. Speaking of riding, I'm off for a cruise. Later, gents.

the2stranger 08-21-2005 02:39 PM

[QUOTE=NJMetalMeister]anywhere near maastricht? we used to go there ALL the time.[/QUOTE]

yes quite close near Masstricht. :p

do you know where Heerlen is? I live just about there.
where do you study?

Permanent Solution 08-21-2005 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I have had to live a long-distance relationship for about two months and it's not very fun, so I can feel for you.[/QUOTE]
I'll have to do it for like 4 :(

The upside is if we can push through it, we'll have a much stronger relationship for it.[QUOTE=munky_magik]'Sup Vince. Long time no post.[/QUOTE]
Pfft, I've been posting, just not while you're on ;)

Now that I'm back at school though I'll be on a lot I think though.

NJMetalMeister 08-21-2005 02:46 PM

[QUOTE=the2stranger]yes quite close near Masstricht. :p

do you know where Heerlen is? I live just about there.
where do you study?[/QUOTE]

Well i am back in the US now, but when i was in germany we were in frankfurt. We could use a schönes wochenendeticket to get to the dutch german border for 5 € each, then have to pay relatively little to cross the border from there. It was a bit of a long train ride because they were regional trains, but it was always a fun trip.

I dont know exactly where Heerlen is, i just have seen/heard the name before.

Shattered_Future 08-21-2005 02:51 PM

I was in a long distance relationship for a while...it actually worked out better. Since we didn't see each other as often, there was less chance that we would piss each other off...that may be why it lasted for a good 5 months.

Anyway...next part of my series is up. On Lacuna Coil.

[URL]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=382016[/URL]

Go comment...uploads will be up later tonight.

Lord Abortion 08-21-2005 03:04 PM

I really hate Sharon Osbourne...
should I change some of my usertitle to something nasty about her?

Maiden>Sabbath

Illmatic 08-21-2005 03:25 PM

My gf's top ten bassists (she plays bass):

10. Larry Graham
9. John Myung
8. Stu Hamm
7. Les Claypool
6. Tony Levin
5. Stanley Clarke
4. Vic Wooten
3. John Entwistle
2. Oteil Burbridge
1. Jaco Pastorious

And she "unwillingly leaves out" Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Jack Bruce, Steve Harris, Bootsy Collins, James Jamerson, Phil Lesh, and Billy Sheehan.

I was bored and felt like posting it.

Walrus Gumboot 08-21-2005 03:48 PM

[QUOTE=the2stranger]wooden shoes suck, and I do not want to be associated with anything of that.

the part where I live is way different from the rest of The Netherlands, and I'm, glad so.[/QUOTE]


No weed? No Hookers?


That is really cool, I wanted to learn Dutch for a while, but then I realized that I didn't have anywhere to learn it and it would be somewhat pointless along with Icelandic and Danish, which I also wanted to learn, but that still doesn't remove my curiosity, isn't Nederlands supposed to be the closest language to english because it shares the same French and Germanic influences?

/language nerd

Shattered_Future 08-21-2005 03:51 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]My gf's top ten bassists (she plays bass):

10. Larry Graham
9. John Myung
8. Stu Hamm
7. Les Claypool
6. Tony Levin
5. Stanley Clarke
4. Vic Wooten
3. John Entwistle
2. Oteil Burbridge
1. Jaco Pastorious

And she "unwillingly leaves out" Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Jack Bruce, Steve Harris, Bootsy Collins, James Jamerson, Phil Lesh, and Billy Sheehan.

I was bored and felt like posting it.[/QUOTE]

Pretty good list...looks almost like my friend's list (he's a bassist also).

Dr. Jake Destructo 08-21-2005 03:52 PM

So yesterday, I went with some friends to Silverwood. It's similair to a Six Flags, but a lot smaller. Only 2 large roller coasters, but man, it was still a blast. We left at 6, and got their around noon, due to a few malfunctions.(Idiot navigator made our driver head south instead of north) but it was still extremely fun. Busy as hell, too, being a Saturday and all, so we spent most of our time standing in lines. :p

Lord Abortion 08-21-2005 03:57 PM

yeah, dutch people speak english very well for the most part, as do most countries, we mostly can't speak a word of anyone else's though...

ah well, bedtime methinks

Steerpike 08-21-2005 04:13 PM

I managed to upload the music video for Sledgehammer after warring with Megaupload and YSI to cooperate.

Watch it now! If for no other reason than to see the dancing chickens.

NJMetalMeister 08-21-2005 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]No weed? No Hookers?


That is really cool, I wanted to learn Dutch for a while, but then I realized that I didn't have anywhere to learn it and it would be somewhat pointless along with Icelandic and Danish, which I also wanted to learn, but that still doesn't remove my curiosity, isn't Nederlands supposed to be the closest language to english because it shares the same French and Germanic influences?

/language nerd[/QUOTE]

No, Dutch is not the closest to english, there is apparently some language spoken by a tiny percentage of people up near the german danish border on both sides, whos name i cant remember, that is considered the closest to english. The language is on the verge of dying however, and not as close to english as lets say Dutch is to German, or Swedish is to Norwegian.

jpj 08-21-2005 04:33 PM

I always thought the Romanic languages were closest to English (French, Spanish, Italian, etc.) because of all the Latin influence.

NJMetalMeister 08-21-2005 04:39 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]I always thought the Romanic languages were closest to English (French, Spanish, Italian, etc.) because of all the Latin influence.[/QUOTE]

No, english is a germanic language, and the amount of similarities between german and english is scary, despite how very different the languages are. On top of that, there is a very logical progression between german words and english words a lot of the time, same thing with gramatical differences.

German has its fair share of Latin influence as well. Any verb that ends in ieren in german comes from latin, and is usually almost identical in meaning to the english one. See if you can figure out what these german verbs mean.

studieren
kontrollieren
reparieren
fotografieren

see what i mean?

Walrus Gumboot 08-21-2005 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]I always thought the Romanic languages were closest to English (French, Spanish, Italian, etc.) because of all the Latin influence.[/QUOTE]

Sort of, before the French invaded England in the Middle Ages, English was a Germanic language, it used to be sort of like Icelandic is now (Icelandic hasn't changed much at all in the past 900 years). Well, anyway, English would have been your average German/Swedish/Danish sort of language until, of course, the French invaded, and messed everything up. Now English is sort of German and French's basterd child, not to mention numerous other loan-words from Spanish, Italian, Hindi, Chinese, Russian, Gailic and about any other language you can think of

NJMetalMeister- Looks like we got oursleves a couple of language geeks :D

Riva 08-21-2005 05:50 PM

The English were the pirates of the language world.

Basically, from the original Indo-European language spoken by the settlers coming out of Africa, we have the Asian/Hindi languages breaking off almost immeadiatley, while the Germanic and Romance languages stayed together for a few thousand years more. Hence you can have a basic conversation with a German, puzzle out a sign in French (if you have a good vocabulary), but will be buggered when speaking to a Japanese person.

Note that the fact most European languages use the same symbols as letters helps a lot.

Chu 08-21-2005 07:03 PM

G'Day R&M :)

Riva, how good was the Geelong vs West Coast game :thumb:
Goodluck next week too, although judging by how West Coast went Saturday I don't think you'll need it :D

Jom 08-21-2005 07:09 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Anyway...next part of my series is up. On Lacuna Coil.

[URL]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=382016[/URL]

Go comment...uploads will be up later tonight.[/QUOTE]

I approve :)

I'm helping a bit with uploads while you are away.

RCA 08-21-2005 07:10 PM

Has Lucas arrived at college yet?

jpj 08-21-2005 07:48 PM

[QUOTE]No, english is a germanic language, and the amount of similarities between german and english is scary, despite how very different the languages are. On top of that, there is a very logical progression between german words and english words a lot of the time, same thing with gramatical differences.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I did notice that. Isn't "Where is the" in German just "Wer is die"?

I think I remember seeing "Where is the bathroom" is "Wer is die toilet"

NJMetalMeister 08-21-2005 08:04 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]Actually, I did notice that. Isn't "Where is the" in German just "Wer is die"?

I think I remember seeing "Where is the bathroom" is "Wer is die toilet"[/QUOTE]

where is the bathroom = Wo ist die Toilette?

BludgeonySteve 08-21-2005 08:05 PM

Aren't all languages that originated in europe conected? Which one was the first, then?

RCA 08-21-2005 08:10 PM

I think the Romance languages came first, but I may be wrong.

Walrus Gumboot 08-21-2005 08:14 PM

[QUOTE=RNR]Aren't all languages that originated in europe conected? Which one was the first, then?[/QUOTE]


They all came from the same Indo-European root except for Finnish and Basque. Basque is just freaking awesome because nobody has any idea of what it is related to or where/when it came from. But yeah, everyone but them came from the same root language.

I think it split into three major branches at some point:
Romance- Spanish, Italian, Romanian, Fraaansh
Germanic- German, Swedish English
Slovakian/Eastern European- Ukranian, Hungarian, Polish

I really don't know anything about that last one. And as far as the characters go, The Germanics at first used runes to write, but with the spead of Christianity, the Roman (you know, this one) writing system was adopted. I think Cryllic (Russian) came from Greek, and spread especially with the USSR. But it seems that this writing system follows Christianity

NJMetalMeister 08-21-2005 08:15 PM

[QUOTE=RNR]Aren't all languages that originated in europe conected? Which one was the first, then?[/QUOTE]

all are indo european languages EXCEPT hungarian and finnish, which are more related to the eastern european languages like mongolian and korean for example, than european languages, but that is because the people who settled those regions were chased out of asia by the huns many many centuries ago

And also, i am quite sure that Hungarian is not part of the slavic group of languages, like you said, we had a huge lesson on this in my russian history class because the professor was also a doctorate in linguistics.

BludgeonySteve 08-21-2005 08:20 PM

Cool, guys. That's very interesting.

Walrus Gumboot 08-21-2005 08:20 PM

[QUOTE=NJMetalMeister]all are indo european languages EXCEPT hungarian and finnish, which are more related to the eastern european languages like mongolian and korean for example, than european languages, but that is because the people who settled those regions were chased out of asia by the huns many many centuries ago

And also, i am quite sure that Hungarian is not part of the slavic group of languages, like you said, we had a huge lesson on this in my russian history class because the professor was also a doctorate in linguistics.[/QUOTE]

Probably, I just thought it would be because it is in the same sort of area. I really don't know much about that language group, I wish I did. Plus, you have a professor, which means you are in college, and I am a mere High School Independent Study Latin student


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NJMetalMeister 08-21-2005 08:24 PM

Frisian! thast the name of the language thats closest to english. I knew it was similar in name to Farsi but i couldnt remember it.

Ive heard people speak frisian before, and i can make more sense out of dutch than i can that language, but then again knowing german and english helps with dutch comprehension.


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