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Bartender 02-07-2005 08:48 AM

[QUOTE=Kage]Nice, an NIN fan.[/QUOTE]

Tool and NIN seem to overlap quite a bit in their fans, in my experience at least.

jamesclelland 02-07-2005 12:47 PM

i got used to dt's singer. i just love the guitar work. for example in the name of god, that solo is amazing. drums are just as badass. the bass is harder to pick out, but when you hear him, he doing something cool.
opeth is another favorite, but they are a little heavy when you have a horrible headache

-Obscurity- 02-07-2005 01:32 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Opeth is incredible, but I just can't listen to Dream Theater because of the singer.[/QUOTE]

I like DT, but never cared for the singing. Same thing with Rush. Both are incredibly talented, musical genious bands, but I never cared for that castrato style singing. I still listen to both though.

kurrpt 02-07-2005 01:34 PM

[QUOTE=-Obscurity-]I like DT, but never cared for the singing. Same thing with Rush. Both are incredibly talented, musical genious bands, but I never cared for that castrato style singing. I still listen to both though.[/QUOTE]


for some reason i like rush's singer, but hate DT. I just listen to the instrumedly stuff, and stay away from their singer


Big up to YTSE Jam

rage_h87 02-07-2005 01:37 PM

[QUOTE=jamesclelland]i got used to dt's singer. i just love the guitar work. for example in the name of god, that solo is amazing. drums are just as badass. the bass is harder to pick out, but when you hear him, he doing something cool.[/QUOTE]

same here....

-Obscurity- 02-07-2005 01:50 PM

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]for some reason i like rush's singer, but hate DT. I just listen to the instrumedly stuff, and stay away from their singer


Big up to YTSE Jam[/QUOTE]

I do think Geddy Lee is slightly more tolerable, and his vocal patterns/melodies are a little better than DT.

kurrpt 02-07-2005 01:54 PM

[QUOTE=-Obscurity-]I do think Geddy Lee is slightly more tolerable, and his vocal patterns/melodies are a little better than DT.[/QUOTE]

the singer for DT reminds me of a 80s hair band, where as Rush pretty much came from the 80s, so its more tollerable for me

TheSubtleArts 02-07-2005 02:01 PM

maybe because DT used to be an 80's hair band.

-Obscurity- 02-07-2005 02:04 PM

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]the singer for DT reminds me of a 80s hair band, where as Rush pretty much came from the 80s, so its more tollerable for me[/QUOTE]

Rush came from the 70's actually, but yeah DT's singer is incredibly 80's.

jamesclelland 02-07-2005 03:37 PM

i dont see hair band at all, i get the 80's thing. and actually the instrumental tune on TOT screams metallica. a lot of what i've heard from dt sounds like megadeth or metallica, imo

Shadius 02-07-2005 05:06 PM

*Looks at the last page*

There's this little band called Tool I like too, they have some great songs.

I agree that DT and Tool are both amazing bands though, Opeth i've heard some stuff that I love, but those death metal vocals don't do much for me. ****ation was good from my one hearing of it.

Edit: What's the best NIN album? Maybe I'd like them, heard about them for years, never bothered to look into them.

BlindWriting 02-07-2005 05:14 PM

Opeth is pretty cool. The Funeral Portrait and Blackwater Park are dam[color=white]n[/color] good songs. The death metal vocals kind of turn me off, but they're still very talented. Nine Inch Nails is great as well, and Bartender had a point about the overlapping fanbases.

And a Tool question:
Who writes the lyrics? Is it just Maynard, or he and Adam?

Shadius 02-07-2005 05:17 PM

Mostly, if not all Maynard, I believe. Given the personal nature of a lot of their songs that relate to his life and such.

Otherside 02-07-2005 05:21 PM

In APC, however, Billy writes alot of the song material as well.

Kage 02-07-2005 06:33 PM

[QUOTE=Shadius]Edit: What's the best NIN album? Maybe I'd like them, heard about them for years, never bothered to look into them.[/QUOTE]

With best NIN album, you'll get tons of mixed responses, but, with you being a Tool fan, I'd say The Fragile. It's the most epic in it's soundscapes. After that check out The Downward Spiral.

TheSubtleArts 02-07-2005 06:35 PM

i think downward spiralis the best, but thats the only album i was really into from NIN. i like Fragile alot too.

BlindWriting 02-07-2005 06:40 PM

Definitely The Downward Spiral. It's a great album.
The Fragile is slightly harder to like, and you're best listeing to that after you've heard TDS.

TheSubtleArts 02-07-2005 06:56 PM

Fragile is more Tool-like i guess tho, but downward spiral is still my fav.

Street Spirit (Fade Out) 02-07-2005 07:10 PM

NIN Rules. I love Downward Spiral. I've still gotta listen to the Fragile and other stuff.

conciousuniverse 02-08-2005 12:00 AM

Lateralus & the Qabala
 
[URL=http://www.toolpantheon.com/lateralus_meanings.htm]Lateralus & the Qabala[/URL]

:smoke:


For the person who asked about the atmosphere at Tool Concerts...it varies.

Most everyone is coming from a common space and people have been very respectful in all my experiences. Some like to form a pit, tho Tools time signatures create a more interprative dance, like maynards movements. The energy and spirit is very communal. There was an instance at a concert, during "Pu****," when a fan jumped on stage to hug MjK, and you can download it by searching for "Maynard fights with fan- Pu****" ...I'll let you see it for yourself.

opeth_oasis 02-08-2005 04:14 AM

maynard fights a fan?!?!?! i gotta see this! First time in this thread, tools a great band, i really find maynards vocals very easy to listen to. Fav Album would be Undertow or Aenima

dUSK 02-08-2005 05:30 AM

*VIDEO SPOILER*

Maynard doesn't so much as fight the fan, as stated in the name, it's more of a wrestle and such on the ground. It's cool though because the whole time it's happening MJK sings as though has nothing but complete concentration for the sogn being played.

OnceTheyWereHeros 02-08-2005 05:38 AM

what do people follow tool so much? i havent heard all there stuff but ive heard lateralus and it seems quite boring to me. they seem like quite good musicians and they do have their own sound but to me they arent very exciting, so can you tell me why you like tool so much?

dUSK 02-08-2005 05:46 AM

The sound grows on you like you wouldn't believe. The musicians that make up Tool are each incredible in their own right, and blend together to create a sound that is totally unique to them.

The lyric's of their songs are also a huge factor in why people like Tool so much. Maynard has an awesome ability to provoke thought, and to subtlely pass a message though his songs. Often, the true message is incredibly hard to find, and we still don't know if we know the true meanings of many of their songs.

That'll do me for a start, I'm sure someone will elaborate.

OnceTheyWereHeros 02-08-2005 06:01 AM

cool man maybe im not looking deep enough into their stuff but i heard lateralus when i was 14 and i havent heard much of them since so i hope you understand :) i will give them another listen when i get my hands on one of their cd's....schism was good though :thumb:

estel 02-08-2005 06:01 AM

I'll give it a shot G_Mac

Tool have a very unique sound. This sound became most prominent during Lateralus. Their previous releases -
Opiate - pretty generic hard rock
Undertow - much more though-provoking and slightly more progressive, using strange time signatures, but still heavy
Ænima - extremely deep and meaningful, whilst keeping the angry edge. The first album with Justin Chancellor, and where Tool really started showing their progressive style.
Lateralus - the most progressive, and also the most thought provoking album so far. The way the tracks have their own meaning, but also fit into the songs around them makes it a simply beautiful CD. This is one of those CDs that can be played start to finish, and not one single track deserves to be skipped. To see the more obvious links between tracks - Parabol/Parabola and Disposition/Reflection make it obvious. There are also more subtle links, which can be found by reading the lyrics and doing a bit of research. There are far too many underlying themes to go into here.

Musically, Tool have an incredible synergy. Each part is excellent, but the way each instrument interacts with the others makes it a sonic adventure, just listening to the instruments. I think Lateralus and Reflection are the best examples here.
Lateralus is the album which grows on you. First time through, it may seem boring... but listen to it a few times and you'll notice things you didn't hear before... a certain guitar riff, a superb drum fill, a powerful bass line, haunting vocals ... they all make Tool one of the best bands of the modern era.

/end fanboy rant

OnceTheyWereHeros 02-08-2005 06:10 AM

good post! yeah i hope i get into them cause most people i know seem to like them but i am quite impatient with my music which is a bad thing! if i dont catch the sound of it the first time i usally disregard the cd once ive heard it. but ill give them more time to grow on me

dUSK 02-08-2005 06:14 AM

nice estel, I wasn't going to type out an essay :p

Otherside 02-08-2005 06:16 AM

[QUOTE=OnceTheyWereHeros]good post! yeah i hope i get into them cause most people i know seem to like them but i am quite impatient with my music which is a bad thing! if i dont catch the sound of it the first time i usally disregard the cd once ive heard it. but ill give them more time to grow on me[/QUOTE]


What other kind of music do you like? It could simply be that Tool isn't your thing, and if that is so, there are tons of other great bands that we could recommend you.

OnceTheyWereHeros 02-08-2005 06:24 AM

[QUOTE=Otherside]What other kind of music do you like? It could simply be that Tool isn't your thing, and if that is so, there are tons of other great bands that we could recommend you.[/QUOTE]

Im a total metalhead i guess :p but i do like other styles of guitar based music that has a good riff or lyrics to it...because i dont want to limit my music to only metal! Tool i think is the type of band that will grow on me but its just im not really into them just yet but other people i know and some of my friends are :wave: but mainly i listen to Pantera, Sabbath, Hendrix, Iced Earth etc. and 'new' bands i like are CoB, Dream Theater, Dragonforce Black Label Society!


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