yeah....the byzances are sweet, I forgot to mention that I kinda liked the one I tried out in the store the other day. I'll look into it a little further.

im looking for a pair of either sabian aa or aax hi-hats that are very sizzly and have are sort of dark.

im trying to find something similar to k custom session hats but i dont want to pay over 200 dollars, and im just looking for an open sound like theirs

edit:also do you think fusion hats are for metal, b/c someone said it on musicians friend reviews said so, but i didnt think so, but im not sure, so could you give me ur opinion

Jesus man, if i said Z Customs are for jazz, would you beleive me?

Use them how you see fit.

so the guy was wrong. i thought maybe my ears had decieved me or something. ty

Hey man just a small question - is getting an 18" 2002 full crash worth it? - since i had cracked a 16" 2002 regular crash really easily. (these are all paiste)OR maybe should i just get myself eithr a 18" 2002 medium crash or a 17" 2002 rock crash?

its sounds really weird when i read it again

17 paiste sig full crash :]


I really like the dark energy crash, but I dunno if I really wanna pay that much more for it...oh well.

[QUOTE=rborghino]Hey man just a small question - is getting an 18" 2002 full crash worth it? - since i had cracked a 16" 2002 regular crash really easily. (these are all paiste)OR maybe should i just get myself eithr a 18" 2002 medium crash or a 17" 2002 rock crash?[/QUOTE]

If you cracked a 2002 real easily, spend that money on a teacher instead.

I wish I could afford a 2002, because I won't break them.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]If you cracked a 2002 real easily, spend that money on a teacher instead.

I wish I could afford a 2002, because I won't break them.[/QUOTE]

get the hats too so u can shut the **** up about the new beats

[QUOTE=drumaster]im looking for a pair of either sabian aa or aax hi-hats that are very sizzly and are sort of dark.

im trying to find something similar to k custom session hats but i dont want to pay over 200 dollars, and im just looking for an open sound like theirs

edit:also do you think fusion hats are for metal, b/c someone said it on musicians friend reviews said so, but i didnt think so, but im not sure, so could you give me ur opinion[/QUOTE]


^i want more opinions.srry for reposting

[QUOTE=HeLLmO]get the hats too so u can shut the **** up about the new beats[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure the hats would be good, because I am a fan of that A/AA/2002 sound more then anything else.

But i'm too poor to afford Paiste, but I want at least one 2002 in my lineup, so it will be a crash.

[QUOTE=drumaster]^i want more opinions.srry for reposting[/QUOTE]
ebay some of the ones you're looking for...I dunno if it's a good idea to like a set of hats because they're a cheaper version of the ones you really love.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]If you cracked a 2002 real easily, spend that money on a teacher instead.

I wish I could afford a 2002, because I won't break them.[/QUOTE]
man what are you talking about i NEVER break any cymbals except for that one that started cracking really soon. I have a paiste 101 and two sabian b8's in my set and theyve held up well maybe it was like a factory mistake or something and you didnt even answer the question i asked. you freak out too fast man, chill out.:chug:

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]I'm pretty sure the hats would be good, because I am a fan of that A/AA/2002 sound more then anything else.

But i'm too poor to afford Paiste, but I want at least one 2002 in my lineup, so it will be a crash.[/QUOTE]

yea man. i'm gettin' my job and my first few pay checks are goin' towards a 20'' 2oo2 novo china and 15'' 2oo2 soundedge hats

[QUOTE=Icky_Mettle]Alright....getting a crash very soon! Should have the money to get anything other than a paiste in about a week or two. I'm thinking 17'', and here are some of the qualities I'm looking for:

Pretty dark
pretty washy
relatively open
loud enough for rock/funk
[B]versatile[/B]

Some that I've got my eye on
Istanbul Agop dark crash
Istanbul Agop sultan
Sabian AA med. thin
UFIP in local shop

some more suggestions would be awesome....[/QUOTE]

answers? I guess I should just make it a thread...

you're going to hate me for this..but i just got back from a weekend camp gig where i was the drum tech/sound tech and i'm going to say...

16" S series wuhan crash. believe it or not, but that thing was piercy, and cut through the bass just enough :)

Believe me, I'm trying the S Series if they stock it at guitarcenter...I just don't wanna buy a wuhan without ever hearing it.

OH GOD...I think I'm in love, and the victim costs $217 :[

Paiste signature reflector 17'' full crash

wow...this thing is absolutely dreamy! A little darker than the trad finish I tried, EXACTLY what I was looking for...matches up great with my ride. The thing is...am I good enough to get it? I don't want this breaking on me!

[QUOTE=Icky_Mettle]OH GOD...I think I'm in love, and the victim costs $217 :[

Paiste signature reflector 17'' full crash

wow...this thing is absolutely dreamy! A little darker than the trad finish I tried, EXACTLY what I was looking for...matches up great with my ride. The thing is...am I good enough to get it? I don't want this breaking on me![/QUOTE]

ooohh that crash is like a really hot woman, and you'll only need $217 to do funky suff with her, GET IT!!

[QUOTE=Inkstar]Would it be possible for someone to briefly explain the qualities of cymbals? Such as washy, etc. Never really known too much about them.[/QUOTE]

Anyone?

a possible cymbal setup
 

After much deliberation, I have come to a possible conclusion in replacing my cymbals. Based on what I have read here and in other forums, observed in music stores and internet sound clips, I have made the following selections:

16" and 18" Sabian aaxplosion crashes
20" Paiste Signature Dry Heavy Ride
14" Zildjian Z custom Dyno beat hats

I imagine the ride and the crashes will work quite well together, but, I am not sure of how the hats will work into this arrangement. I'm not even sure of Dyno beats...my only experience with them are the samples on the zildjian website. Does anyone have any commentary on the above cymbals, and perhaps a hi hat suggestion? And, since I may have money left over, splashes?

hmmm....Ride is a brilliant choice, thinking of getting something in the sig line myself...I'm not a fan of aax really, but if you like them that's cool also. I suggest trying out 2002 sound edges.

The Dyno Beats weren't bad really.

Maybe a K/Z Hybrid Whatever TF it is will suit you better.

Sigs are the sexiest cymbals ever... I now got a 16" sig full crash and its amaizing ( got it yesterday and i know its perfect in every way)

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if u dont mind me asking why where on that site^?

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What a waste

Should I get a 10" or 8" splash?

Eightuh.

Depends on what you want to do with it.

I'm looking for some good hi hats. Right now I have pro sonix, and I really don't like them at all. They're too loud, bright, heavy, and clangy. So I'm looking for something maybe the opposite of them.

Thanks.

[quote=Inpropagation]I'm looking for some good hi hats. Right now I have pro sonix, and I really don't like them at all. They're too loud, bright, heavy, and clangy. So I'm looking for something maybe the opposite of them.

Thanks.[/quote]
15" K. The exact opposite. For what you're trying to play, maybe 13" K/Z? I love mine.

Any of you know what china this is:
[url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/openeye/133833957/[/url]
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All i can work out is that it is a 17 K, but not sure what type. And i ask as im after a china (I play a small set up like Brian), and i like the sound of that one live. So im trying to work out what it is to try one out.

K Custom Hybrid

[IMG]http://www.zildjian.com/images/products/zoomImage_2232.JPG[/IMG]

However its 19" cause they only make them in 19"

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]K Custom Hybrid[/QUOTE]

Cheers, i thought it was a dark china:rolleyes:

But i guess i should of looked at the bell (I know little about Zildjian).

Are they any good? And musical sounding?

Its also 19" not 17 ;)

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]Its also 19" not 17 ;)[/QUOTE]

Lol, that was a shoot in the dark, going by sound clips off the zidjian site.

You know how much they go for, and if they are easy to get hold of?

£176 from newcastle drum centre.

I enquired about the 19" Hybrid crash a while ago. They're the same price as K Customs

Newcastle is the other end of the country to me. But at least they arent that much.

The sound clip is 100% the sound im after as well.

Stagg
 

Could someone give me some info on stagg drumkits? Cant find anything about them on the net... there's a used one for sale wherei live for about $650 or Eu550. Any ideas?

Istanbul Agops..Discuss.