Oh no, I didn't discover it, I just made it easier for other people.

I understand what you're saying, but if people really have nothing better to do then so be it. I listened to the sync a couple times and then I went to practice piano.

Alot of people are crazy about it though, but those are the people that will end up as the ones still living with their parents aspiring to be artists but never doing anything about it.

[QUOTE=taylormemer]Keep in mind that Viginti Tres stands for 23 in Latin, which in numerology is the number for syncronocity.[/QUOTE]

That might be true; however: all the hype about Lateralus (alternative playlist, the maths in different songs etc.) was just a hype, nothing more.

The sync is a nice little gimmick, but i can't believe that they did it on purpose - why would they do that?

[QUOTE=Kosmos Tree]That might be true; however: all the hype about Lateralus (alternative playlist, the maths in different songs etc.) was just a hype, nothing more[/QUOTE]


la te ra lus

Notice how the letters are separated into groups of two? The last letter S is tacked onto the previous group

Each group relates to a chemical symbol
----------------------------------------------
LA: Lanthanum
TE: Tellurium
RA: Radium
LU: Lutetium
S(last single letter): Sulfur

Greek & Latin Meaning
--------------------------
Lanthanum: From the Greek word lanthaneis (to lie hidden)
Tellurium: From the Greek word tellus (Earth or Beneath)
Radium: From the Latin word radius (light ray)
Lutetium: From "Lutetia", the ancient Latin name for Paris(often called the "city of lights")
Sulfur: From the Latin word sulfur (hellfire or brimstone)

After conjugating the verbs and whatnot:

"Lying hidden beneath the light of Paris is hellfire."

Given Tool's almost obsessive interest in the aspects of "Rennes-le-Château" and it's connection to the ancient Paris meridian, I think it's fair to say the album title is significant...

This band does everything for a reason.. I believe, for their own personal satisfaction as artists .

.

[QUOTE=Kosmos Tree]That might be true; however: all the hype about Lateralus (alternative playlist, the maths in different songs etc.) was just a hype, nothing more.

The sync is a nice little gimmick, but i can't believe that they did it on purpose - why would they do that?[/QUOTE]

The sync thing cant be intended, though I kind of wish it was, it would make me feel less ripped off that they wasted 6 mins duplicating part 2.

All up that makes approx 15 minutes worth of filler on this album. The substantive songs themselves are great, which makes me more all the more puzzled at this wasting time mentality. When you think about it there are only 7 fully developed songs on this album. When an album is only released by this band every 5 years or so you'd think they'd want to make the most out of the limited space they've got.

Is it laziness? Is it a lack of ideas? Is it a pretentious need to be weird and progressive? Whatever it is it is one of the only things that makes me hate being a tool fan . :upset:

I tend to agree, but even if there are 15 minutes filler, there's still 60 minutes left - more then other bands have on an entire album.

[quote]
Each group relates to a chemical symbol
----------------------------------------------
LA: Lanthanum
TE: Tellurium
RA: Radium
LU: Lutetium
S(last single letter): Sulfur
[/quote]

This doesn't work, because the last syllable is "lus" :p

Nah, your view on it is interesting, but where's the connection to the song or the album? If they do everything for a reason, there should be a reference, atleast in Lateralus (song).

[quote=borisdablade]The sync thing cant be intended, though I kind of wish it was, it would make me feel less ripped off that they wasted 6 mins duplicating part 2.

All up that makes approx 15 minutes worth of filler on this album. The substantive songs themselves are great, which makes me more all the more puzzled at this wasting time mentality. When you think about it there are only 7 fully developed songs on this album. When an album is only released by this band every 5 years or so you'd think they'd want to make the most out of the limited space they've got.

Is it laziness? Is it a lack of ideas? Is it a pretentious need to be weird and progressive? Whatever it is it is one of the only things that makes me hate being a tool fan . :upset:[/quote]

Like the other guy said, Unlike tool, most other bands don't utilize the ENTIRE length of a CD. They only use 40-50 minutes available. Tool fills a CD to capacity with great songs, and I personally like all the "filler" tracks, because they set a mood. As, I'm sure, the fillers are intended to do. And even if you don't want to take advantage of the fillers for the moods they set, then use them as a way to differentiate between the songs and such.. or skip them, if they bother you that much, of course. They are just extra.

/reads last few pages


crap crap crap

/listens to TOoL

[QUOTE=Kurrpt]/reads last few pages


crap crap crap

/listens to TOoL[/QUOTE]

lol@everyone spazing out about being to much of a tool fan

*listens to the mars volta*

From Wiki

[B]Alchemic connections[/B]

Some song lyrics on this album can be interpreted as references to alchemy, especially due to the fact that the Philosopher's stone often serves as a spiritual metaphor to evolve from a lower state of imperfection and vice (symbolized by the base metals) to a higher state of enlightenment and perfection. References to this spiritual transmutation are:

"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor.
Give away the stone. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold." ("The Grudge")

"Black then white are all I see in my infancy, red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me....Lets me see". ("Lateralus")

If seen in this perspective, the part from "Lateralus" can either refer to the four colors of the Philosopher's stone during different phases of creation, or to the colors of the ingredients themselves (i.e. black = mercury, white = salt, yellow = sulphur, red = stone).

It is also belived that the same line refers to the order in which infants start to see colors.[citation needed] It represents the opening of the third eye.

The infant theory is strongly referenced in the book "The Giver," about a secluded utopian-esque society with many secrets. It is suggested that all within the society are fully color blind. Slowly the main character begins seeing colors, the red of an apple, then the yellow of the sunlight, like an infant awakening to reality.

i feel stupid-er for having read em

[QUOTE=Shadius]lol@everyone spazing out about being to much of a tool fan

*listens to the mars volta*[/QUOTE]


-listens to Sufjan Stevens-

I used to not like all those "filler" tracks that Tool puts in all their albums, but if you listen to an album start to finish, those tracks actually add to the cd's, IMO. By themselves, yes the filler tracks are a waste of time, but they go good listening to the whole album.

[QUOTE=randomthought9]I used to not like all those "filler" tracks that Tool puts in all their albums, but if you listen to an album start to finish, those tracks actually add to the cd's, IMO. By themselves, yes the filler tracks are a waste of time, but they go good listening to the whole album.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Even though I skip them when i'm looking to listen to a few specific songs.

[QUOTE=Kosmos Tree]I tend to agree, but even if there are 15 minutes filler, there's still 60 minutes left - more then other bands have on an entire album.[/QUOTE]

Eh 60 minutes of real songs after 5 years is a bit of a let down. I really dont get it anymore bands like Opeth, Coheed and Cambria or an even better example Devin Townsend can make long, complex, consistent albums with very little gap in between, its been 5 years since Lateralus i spose i was just expecting more from the time taken.

[QUOTE=RoN_jErEmY]la te ra lus

Notice how the letters are separated into groups of two? The last letter S is tacked onto the previous group

Each group relates to a chemical symbol
----------------------------------------------
LA: Lanthanum
TE: Tellurium
RA: Radium
LU: Lutetium
S(last single letter): Sulfur

Greek & Latin Meaning
--------------------------
Lanthanum: From the Greek word lanthaneis (to lie hidden)
Tellurium: From the Greek word tellus (Earth or Beneath)
Radium: From the Latin word radius (light ray)
Lutetium: From "Lutetia", the ancient Latin name for Paris(often called the "city of lights")
Sulfur: From the Latin word sulfur (hellfire or brimstone)

After conjugating the verbs and whatnot:

"Lying hidden beneath the light of Paris is hellfire."

Given Tool's almost obsessive interest in the aspects of "Rennes-le-Château" and it's connection to the ancient Paris meridian, I think it's fair to say the album title is significant...

This band does everything for a reason.. I believe, for their own personal satisfaction as artists .

.[/QUOTE]
Seriously dude, what the hell. Did you think of that yourself???

I heard on a very good, informant radio show called the "Ongoing History of New Music" (the host digs up insane amounts of information of artists and gives a band an hour show, sometimes up to four shows, to tell the story of the band). One was about Tool and the host, Allan Cross, had said that Lateralus is a real word which is a group of muscles in the leg. This guy knows what he is talking about.

:p :p :p :p

I've always wondered, what's the deal with the end of Triad? Why is there just blank space for like the last two minutes?

Decker...

It's all spezzziiiilll numbers man!!!11!11

Trust me, all you need to do is add some tracks, make up some numbers, study the Fibonacci Sequence, could how many eyes there are on the Lateralus booklet itself, and also the CD and you'll has the prelude to your answer. All you need to do then it times it by Triad's length in time and you get some real devil numbers happening.

EDIT
Ooo ooo, noticing that your post count it 666, we'll need to take that into account also. That is by no mere coincidence.

Where in Adelaide do you live...?

North of the city. About 40 mins drive from the CBD, not that Adelaide really has a true CBD but yeah, lol

I live in Hillbank if you have a street directory handy.

Oh right north.


I live about 5 mins west of the city in the ghetto. :upset:

Most of Adelaide is ghetto to be honest. Hillbank's fairly new and nice, but it's suburbs like Elizabeth and Salisbury that really bring the city down...

How old are you?

I am 17 & 1/2.

Ah cool. Its good to see someone from Adelaide who isn't a complete idiot or 12 years old.

[QUOTE=borisdablade]The sync thing cant be intended[/QUOTE]

Excuse me, are you daft?.. I can't possibly see how it isn't intended

i dont believe its intended...


do you think pink floyd meant for their meddle CD to sync up with 2001 : a space odessey...


hardly :lol:

Look at the lengths of the tracks.... Mixed with the fact that they actually do sync up beat for beat.. ...

i could say the same thing for my previous example, but considering the release of both the album, and the movie....

that hardly proves anything is what im getting at

It was indended, proof:


[url]http://www.itjustdoes.com[/url]

thats ridiculous...


i cant believe i clicked that link :lol: