The phrase 'old school hardcore' is becoming as detatched and fashionably repped by people who have nothing todo with it as 'old skool hip hop'

ps Reiner and Scott, get with the avatar based Christmas cheer. As[COLOR="Black"]s[/COLOR]holes.

Old school hardcore should be strictly the 80's. Maybe a few bands who started late 80's and ended early 90's can be considered.

[QUOTE=kingdead]The phrase 'old school hardcore' is becoming as detatched and fashionably repped by people who have nothing todo with it as 'old skool hip hop'

ps Reiner and Scott, get with the avatar based Christmas cheer. As[COLOR="Black"]s[/COLOR]holes.[/QUOTE]

Make me one.

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]If anyone has this month's AMP, they have a little article on SOTY's new album, and they talk about drawing influence from old school hardcore.

The singer dude: "I listened to a lot of old-school hardcore, to get that positive hardcore feel, like Sick of It All, H20, [B]Bane[/B]."

haha, what a douche.[/QUOTE]
Good album

No one can save me and I don't want the attention!

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]The Showdown. And they rule and if you don't like them you're probably just jealous that you're not as metal as them.[/QUOTE]
Hell yeah! They played here a few weeks ago, and they torn the place up.

Synyster Gates shreds.

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Make me one.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://xs57.xs.to/pics/05481/scav.JPG[/IMG]

Hahahahahahahahhahaha

That's not even that funny.

I have till Thursday to make one. Remind me tomorrow as I have a lot of s[size=2]h[/size]it to do.

125x125 pixels of pure Christmas. Not having one by thursday should totally be a banable offence.

ps Mad kudos to Scott for not bailing out.

I can set it however big I want, no limit. But I'm keeping it 125 or under.

Is it common knowledge round here that the guy who pulled Saddam out of his hole was Hopecon's old drummer?

[QUOTE=kingdead]Is it common knowledge round here that the guy who pulled Saddam out of his hole was Hopecon's old drummer?[/QUOTE]

Umm, nah, I don't think it is.

Avatars should be allowed to be just big enough so that it doesn't stretch the frame of the layout...it's kinda dumb having tiny avatars.

I could give you guys bigger avatars, but it would have to be a covert mission and only like an extra 10 pixels bigger. Also you guys need to learn how to use Photoshop to make your images better quality.

I'm down. I use microsoft photo editor to resize mine...they usually turn out well.

Your current one looks like crap. Use photoshop to resize it and turn the image quality up. PS will save it as a file that is too big, but then open it in paint and save it. It'll be the same quality but a smaller size.

[QUOTE=REINER]I could give you guys bigger avatars, but it would have to be a covert mission and only like an extra 10 pixels bigger. Also you guys need to learn how to use Photoshop to make your images better quality.[/QUOTE]

Dude do it

I run on a really high resolution so it's hard to tell...I switched and it looks like crap now.

[QUOTE=cbmartinez]Synyster Gates shreds.[/QUOTE]
I like that guy, but that band's singer is annoying.

[QUOTE=REINER]I could give you guys bigger avatars, but it would have to be a covert mission and only like an extra 10 pixels bigger. Also you guys need to learn how to use Photoshop to make your images better quality.[/QUOTE]
I should have a christmas avatar soon, depending on if anyone can help me in The Pit or not.

If Reiner gave anyone a bigger avatar it would be me.

The more I listen to protest The Hero, the more I love them.

Wow.

:confused:

Forward To Death Is Breaking Up
 

So after 2 and a half years of being a band, 3 records, and 100 shows... Forward to Death is calling it quits. Our guitar player, Drew, is moving to California in mind January to pursue his work. Drew has been one of our best friends, and though it sucks we need to end FTD, we wish him all the best of luck, and continuing the band without him was not even an option.

We got to do so much cool stuff in the short amount of time we were a band, and we got to meet so many great people, and make so many new friends. Its rare a band gets to break up on such good terms. FTD started as 3 friends being idiots and making music for fun, and it will end as 4 friends being idiots and making music for fun. We will be playing a last show in a few weeks, and are trying to pull things together now.

We have so many people to thank... everyone who was ever on the road with us, booked us a show, put out a record (xavier and mike!), and so much more. Especially our brother band, Kill Your Idols, who really took us under their wing and gave us so many fun times. Without getting too into detial... you know who you are... the max 2 defs, the kimpossibles, all our NJ/shore bros, ex members, rascal crew, crewtonz crew, etc... you made this bad idea of a band so much ****ing fun for us, and we could never thank you enough.

keep an eye out for the last show! and we will be playing Dec. 11th in Middletown, NJ... stop by after going to see Direct Control!!

XOXO FTD

hah crap I was just going to listen to them but I got rid of their stuff in the great deletening

Damn, I just barely missed their ky show. I was actually at the venue, but never even went inside before I left.





On another note, Kodan Armada in 5 days. :)

[QUOTE=Forest_Fire]Damn, I just barely missed their ky show. I was actually at the venue, but never even went inside before I left.





On another note, Kodan Armada in 5 days. :)[/QUOTE]
Where in Kentucky do you live? And where is this Kodan Armada show?

[QUOTE=REINER]So after 2 and a half years of being a band, 3 records, and 100 shows... Forward to Death is calling it quits. Our guitar player, Drew, is moving to California in mind January to pursue his work. Drew has been one of our best friends, and though it sucks we need to end FTD, we wish him all the best of luck, and continuing the band without him was not even an option.

We got to do so much cool stuff in the short amount of time we were a band, and we got to meet so many great people, and make so many new friends. Its rare a band gets to break up on such good terms. FTD started as 3 friends being idiots and making music for fun, and it will end as 4 friends being idiots and making music for fun. We will be playing a last show in a few weeks, and are trying to pull things together now.

We have so many people to thank... everyone who was ever on the road with us, booked us a show, put out a record (xavier and mike!), and so much more. Especially our brother band, Kill Your Idols, who really took us under their wing and gave us so many fun times. Without getting too into detial... you know who you are... the max 2 defs, the kimpossibles, all our NJ/shore bros, ex members, rascal crew, crewtonz crew, etc... you made this bad idea of a band so much ****ing fun for us, and we could never thank you enough.

keep an eye out for the last show! and we will be playing Dec. 11th in Middletown, NJ... stop by after going to see Direct Control!!

XOXO FTD[/QUOTE]

Shiiiit, I missed them last time they played down here too.

I'm bustin' out the ol' FTD shirt.

chris is a dick :(

The only time I saw em I didn't know them so that sucks.

No he isn't.

EDIT: to Tyler

I really should have seen them more times than I did, only saw them a couple times. I saw a list of every show they played, 100+ shows in like 2 years. It's crazy how much they toured/played.

[code]for no reason but my own nerdiness, here is a list of every show we played.

2003

1. Sun. July 20th: Rutherford, NJ @ Murray Elks Lodge w/ Dragnet, Kill Crush Destroy, Bled for Days, Cast Aside. (*andy on bass)

2. Mon. July 21st: Boundbrook, NJ @ Hamilton St. Café w/ Let it Burn, the Banner, Blame the Victim, Mother Night, Bled for Days. (*andy on bass)

3. Sat. Aug. 9th: Toms River, NJ @ Scott Sleckman’s w/ Kill Crush Destroy, Shoot to Kill (*Bob’s first show on bass)

4. Fri. Aug. 15th: Ocean City, NJ @ Arts Council w/ Ensign, the Procedure, Fiction Effect, Useless Drunks.

5. Sun. Aug. 17th: New Brunswick, NJ @ 113 Louis St. w/ Dragnet, Cut the poop, the Prowl, Bones Brigade.

6. Mon. Aug. 25th: Princeton, NJ @ Princeton Radio Station… Maimed and Slaughtered

7. Sun. Sept. 14th: New Brunswick, NJ @ 56 Redmond w/ The Spark, Mother Night

8. Sat. Sept. 20th: Boundbrook, NJ @ Hamilton St. Café w/ Tear it Up, the Degenerics, Annihilation Time, Get Real (s/t 7” record release), Think I Care

9. Sat. Oct. 18th: Island Heights, NJ @ Steve’s Basement w/ Kill Crush Destroy, This Ship Will Sink, Pull the Plug, Is This Real, Pray for Death.

10. Sun. Oct. 26th: Boundbrook, NJ @ Hamilton St. Café w/ Ensign (record release for covers record), None More Black, the Procedure, Marathon, Fiction Effect.

11. Fri. Nov. 7th: Farmingdale, NY @ TGIF w/ Scraps and Heart Attacks (record release), Verse.

12. Sat. Nov. 8th: Fairfield, CT @ Sacred Heart University w/ Think I Care, Say Goodbye, The Distance, Youth Attack, Long Rangers, Signs of Hope.

13. Sun. Nov. 9th: Wallingford, CT w/ Desperate Measures, Mental, Jaguarz, Drug Test, Look Alive, Have Heart (*Bob’s last show on bass)

14. Sat. Dec. 27th: Barley Point, NJ @ Ian’s Island w/ Dragnet, Get Real, Bones Brigade, Life Set Struggle. (*Jeff’s first show on bass)

15. Sun. Dec. 28th: DC @ ?? w/ Dragnet, Bones Brigade, Life Set Struggle.

16. Tues. Dec. 30th: Daytona Beach, FL @ Elks Lodge… This is For You Fest w/ Black Cross, Sex Positions, Dragnet, Hot Cross, One Up.

2004

17. Thurs. Jan. 1st: Atlanta, GA @ The Neutron Bomb w/ Dragnet, Outbreak, Sex Positions, the Distance, Where it Ends.

18. Fri. Jan. 2nd: VA Beach @ Uncle Huby’s w/ Dragnet, Outbreak, the First Step, the Distance

19. Sat. Jan. 3rd: Montclair, NJ @ Bloomfield Ave. Café w/ Kill Your Idols, Bane, Modern Life is War, the Spark, Mother Night.

20. Sun. Jan. 4th: NYC @ CBGBs w/ Kill Your Idols, Bane, Modern Life is War, The Backup Plan, Inhuman.

21. Mon. Jan. 5th: Baltimore, MD @ the Broasis w/ Dragnet, Modern Life is War, Verse, Never Enough, Look Alive, Have Heart, Farewell Hope.

22. Sat. Jan. 24th: Montpelier, VT @ the Unitarian Church w/ Kill Your Idols, No Time Left, My Revenge, Nationwide Panic, That’s Life, Tired of Trying. (*Jeff’s last show on bass)

23. Fri. Feb. 27th: Chatham, NJ @ Kathryn’s Basement w/ the Spark, Bad Business, Farewell Hope, Jerk Chicken, Scared to Death. (*Evan’s first show on bass)

24. Weds. March 10th: Montclair, NJ @ Bloomfield Ave. Café w/ A New Enemy, Ensign, Kill Crush Destroy, Get Real, My Luck, Nola.

25. Thurs. March 11th: Clawson, MI @ Flipside Records w/ Threatener, Knee Deep in poop, the Bill Bondsmen.

26. Fri. March 12th: Cedar Falls, IA @ FSU Garage w/ Modern Life is War, Get It Away, Hugs.

27. Sat. March 13th: Minneapolis, MN @ House of Thrash w/ Get it Away, Any Last Words, Empty Promise.

28. Sun. March 14th: Chicago, IL @ 1719 W. Albion w/ Get it Away, No Slogan, the Pedestrians.

29. Mon. March 15th: Pittsburgh, PA @ Mr. Roboto Project w/ Suburban Death Machine, We’re Not Friends.

30. Sun. March 21st: Bricktown, NJ @ Brick DAV w/ Get Real (“fusty walrus! the shore” rec release), Jaguarz, the Little Rascals.

31. Fri. March 26th: NYC in CBGBs w/ Ensign, the Degenerics, Vitamin X, Deathcycle, Daycare Swindlers, the Krays, Czolgosz, American Distress, the Profits.

32. Sat. April. 24th: Hubbard, OH @ Section 8 Skatepark… Play Fast or Die Fest w/ Caustic Christ, Career Suicide, Desperate Measures, The Prowl, Cut the poop, Bones Brigade, Upstab, the Gatecrasher, Life Set Struggle, My Revenge, Cider, the Rites.

33. Sat. May 15th: Takoma Park, MD @ the electric maid w/ Crime in Stereo, Turning Seasons, Thumbs Up.

34. Sun. May 30th: Montclair, NJ @ Bloomfield Ave. Café w/ Get Real (“shore style” record release), Mental, Desperate Measures, Righteous Jams, the Wrong Side, Tarpit, Lights out.

35. Sun. June. 6th: Cambridge, MA @ the Elks Lodge w/ Outbreak, Righteous Jams, Stand Accused (first show), Colin of Arabia.

36. Sat. June 12th: Baltimore, MD @ the Broasis w/ Kill Your Idols, the Spark, Crime in Stereo, Never Enough (rec release), Downside Risk.

37. Sun. June 13th: Boundbrook, NJ @ Hamilton St. Café w/ Kill Your Idols, The Spark, Crime in Stereo, Deathcycle, Celebrity Murders.

38. Thurs. July 15th: Wilkes Barre, PA @ Café Metro… Pre Posi #s show w/ Jaguarz, Sidewalk, So Be It, Still Crossed.

39. Sat. Aug. 21st: Wilkes Barre, PA @ Café Metro w/ Ensign, Murder Riot Fight.

40. Sat. Aug. 28th: Manasquan, NJ @ Manasquan Woman’s Hall w/ A New Enemy, Get Real, Lethal Aggression, Deathcycle, Void Control.

41. Sat. Sept. 4th: Asbury Park, NJ @ The Saint w/ Full Speed Ahead (Reunion / Record Release), Dead Nation (reunion), Fast Times (reunion), Cut The poop.

42. Sat. Oct. 23rd: Brooklyn, NY @ Crewtonz w/ Kill Your Idols, Deathcycle.

43. Sat. Oct. 30th: Montclair, NJ @ Bloomfield Ave Café… Team Narc Halloween show w/ Mental (Underdog), Get Real (Cro Mags), Void Control (Old Cali Punk Mix), Lack There Of (SOD). (*FTD did DKs)

44. Sun. Nov. 7th: New Brunswick, NJ @ 12 Lafayette St. w/ The Oath, The Prowl, Coliseum, Clockcleaner.

45. Sun. Nov. 14th: NYC @ CBGB w/ Kill Your Idols, Ensign, Celebrity Murders, Crime in Stereo, Last Transmission.

46. Fri. Nov. 26th: Long Island, NY @ ?? w/ Deathcycle, Guadalope.

47. Fri. Dec. 3rd: Lemoyne, PA @ Championship Vinyl w/ Van Damage.

48. Fri. Dec. 10th: Brockton, MA @ Roman’s w/ Slumlords, No Redeeming Social Vale, Mental, Stress Cracks, For the Worse.

49. Sat. Dec. 11th: Albany, NY @ Shelter Skatepark w/ Kill Your Idols, My Revenge, Dead Hearts.

50. Fri. Dec. 17th: Manasquan, NJ @ Manasquan Woman’s Hall w/ Slumlords, Get Real, Snakebite, the Little Rascals.

51. Mon. Dec. 27th: Atlanta, GA @ Forever Nights w/ Mental, Righteous Jams, RNR, Down To Nothing, The Spark, Never Enough, Snakebite, Instilled, Fight Like a Brave, Ruiner.

52. Weds. Dec. 29th: Daytona, FL @ South Beach Nightclub (200 S. Beach St.) w/ ANOTHER BREATH, spatulaPARADE, BACKSTABBERS INC. , BONES BRIGADE, DEAD HEARTS, DOVE, I ACCUSE, MARATHON, NEVER ENOUGH, ONE-UP, RUINER, SNAKEBITE, STILL ILL, THE SPARK.

53. Thurs. Dec. 30th: Brandon, FL @ Sound Idea (113 EAST BRANDON BLVD) w/ Snakebite, the Spark, Ruiner.

2005

54. Sat. Jan. 1st: Daphne, AL @ The Dox w/ Kill Crush Destroy, One Finger Salute,
The Hibachi Stranglers.

55. Sun. Jan. 2nd: Houston, TX @ Walter's (Washington) w/ Machine Gun Romantics, Coldera, These Borders Were Drawn in Blood, Cop on fire.

56. Mon. Jan. 3rd: San Antonio, TX @ the Sanctuary (1818 North Main St.) w/ Drop Out, Danny Glover, Total 13.

57. Tues. Jan. 4th: Dallas, TX @ Redblood Club (2617 Commerce St.) w/ Another Breath, Eyes of Hate, Engineer, Unit 21, Ricin.

58. Thurs. Jan. 6th: Phoenix, AZ @ The Phix (1113 NW Grand ave) w/ Kill Crush Destroy, Think Fast, The God Damn Saints.

59. Fri. Jan. 7th: San Diego, CA @ The Che Café w/ Another Breath, Engineer, Triumph

60. Sat. Jan. 8th: Chatsworth, CA @ Unit B (9700 owensmouth) w/ Kill Crush Destroy, More to Pride, Where the Sidewalk Ends.

61. Sun. Jan. 9th: Berkeley, CA @ 924 Gilman St. w/ Verse, Another Breath, The Shemps, The Orphans.

62. Mon. Jan. 10th: Santa Cruz, CA @ Porter Soundbox (301 Heller Drive University of California Santa Cruz) w/ This Is My Fist, Lights Out.

63. Weds. Jan. 12th: Los Angeles, CA @ the Smell (247 S MAIN ST) w/ The Power and The Glory, Bleeding Kansas, Mikoto.

64. Thurs. Jan 13th: Pomona, CA @ The Tiki Room w/ Mother Speed, Drop It, Eaten Alive, Ghost Stories, Earn Your Keep, This is Hell.

65. Fri. Jan. 14th: Las Vegas, NV @ ?? w/ Mother Speed and punk bands.

66. Sat. Jan. 15th: Albuquerque, NM @ 1109 McKee NE w/ Grace Gale, Mother Speed, Westwood Tigers.

67. Sun. Jan. 16th: Denver, CO @ the Construct (3519 Brighton Blvd) w/ Another Breath, Guns and Rosa Parks.

68. Mon. Jan. 17th: Kansas City, MO @ El Torreon w/ Kill Crush Destroy, Iron Guts Kelly.

69. Tues. Jan. 18th: St. Louis, MO @ The High-Pointe (1001 McCausland Ave.) w/ Step On It, Saturday’s Alright For Fighting, Cross Examination.

70. Weds. Jan. 19th: Cedar Falls, IA @ FUK Garage. w/ Fetus Crue.

71. Thurs. Jan. 20th:St. Paul, MN @ the Slaughter House (674 Van Buren) w/ Hope You Choke, Formaldehyde Junkies.

72. Fri. Jan. 21st: Chicago, IL @ DePaul University McGaw Hall room 130 w/ Caustic Christ, No Slogan, Another Breath, Engineer, Ten Crowns, CDC.

73. Sun. Jan. 23rd: Dearborn, MI @ Refuge Skateshop (3423 Telegraph Rd.) w/ I Accuse.

74. Mon. Jan. 24th: Pittsburgh, PA @ Roboto Project w/ Suburban Death Machine, F.L.A.K., Brain Handle.

75. Sat. Jan. 29th: Long Island, NY @ The Freespace w/ Kill Your Idols (“Companionship to Competition” record release show), My Revenge, Crime In Stereo, Sick of Talk, This is Hell.

76. Sat. Feb. 5th: Lemoyne, PA @ Championship Vinyl w/ Kill Your Idols, the Spark.

77. Sat. Feb. 12th: Philly, PA @ the Church w/ Kill Your Idols, The Spark.

78. Sun. Feb. 13th: Wilkes Barre, PA @ Club Metro w/ Kill Your Idols, Crime in Stereo, Cold World.

79. Sat. Feb. 19th: Westfield, MA @ the Westfield Woman’s Club w/ Out Cold, Three Fifteen, End of the Year.

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80. Fri. March 11th: Manasquan, NJ @ Manasquan Woman’s Club w/ A New Enemy, the Little Rascals, Sick of Talk, Splitting Headache (first show), Robot Whales (hop on), Get Real (hop on).

81. Sat. March 26th: Chicago, IL @ The Pulaski Park field-house auditorium: Chicago Fest. w/ 14 or Fight, C.T.S., Cardiac Arrest, Career Suicide, Caustic Christ, Expired Youth, Forward To Death, Hit Me Back, Life Set Struggle, Municipal Waste, No Slogan, Rat Bastards, Riistetyt, Sayanara, the Breaks, the Repos, the State, To What End?, Weekend Nachos, Rambo, World Burns to Death.

82. Sun. March 27th: Indianapolis, IN @ Sarah's House w/ Wasteland DC, What the fusty walrus!?

83. Mon. March 28th: St. Louis, MO @ 3343 Texas w/ Direct Control, Cardiac Arrest, Eating Rats.

84. Tues. March 29th: Memphis, TN @ the Armory w/ Get a Life.

85. Weds. March 30th: Louisville, KY @ Keswick Democratic Club w/ Turncoat Serenade, Wasteland DC, What the fusty walrus!, Ganthet.

86. Sat. April 2nd: Towson MD @ 10 Car Pile Up w/ Ruiner, Dead Hearts, TAEA, Van Damage, Nick Fury.

87. Weds. April 6th: San Diego, CA @ Che Café w/ Kill Your Idols, All Or Nothing HC, Career Soldiers, Mother Speed.

88. Thurs. April 7th: Corona, CA @ The Showcase Theater w/ Kill Your Idols, All Or Nothing HC, Mother Speed, Ghost Stories, Carry The Casket.

89. Fri. April 8th: Bakersfield, CA @ Jerry’s Pizza w/ Kill Your Idols, All Or Nothing HC, Ridicule.
90. Sat. April 9th: Berkeley, CA @ 924 Gilman St. w/ Kill Your Idols, All Or Nothing HC, Hostile Takeover.

91. Sun. April 10th: Santa Cruz, CA @ 418 Project w/ Kill Your Idols, Our Turn (last show), The First Step, All Or Nothing HC, Broken Needle.

92. Sat. May 7th: Long Island, NY @ the Freespace w/ MDC, Kill Your Idols, Deathcycle, the Solidarity Pact. (deathcycle/solidarity pact split release show)

93. Mon. May 30th: Hillsborough, NJ @ Curmudgeon w/ Splitting Headache, the Breakout, Sweating Bullets.

94. Fri. June 17th: Bricktown, NJ @ the Brick DAV w/ Get Real, Little Rascals, Splitting Headache, No Joke, Bullets In, Righteous Jams (kind of).

95. Sun. June 26th: Baltimore, MD @ Charm City Space w/ Kill Your Idols, In My Way, Celebrity Murders.

96. Fri. July 15th: Manasquan, NJ @ Manasquan Woman’s Hall w/ Kill Crush Destroy (last show), Ensign, I Accuse, the Procedure, Glaciers.

97. Sat. July 23rd: Manasquan, NJ @ Manasquan Woman’s Hall w/ Kill Your Idols, Modern Life is War, Go It Alone.

98. Weds. July 27th: Harrisburgh, PA @ Champion Ship Vinyl w/ Modern Life Is War.

99. Sun. Sept. 25th @ Log Cabin in Toms River, NJ w/ Think I Care, Iron Boots, Tarpit, Say Goodbye

100. Sat. Oct. 29th @ 120 Hamilton St. in New Brunswick, NJ w/ Kill Your Idols, Dead Stop, Set to Explode, 86 Mentality
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What a nerd.

Countdown To Life covered Bob tonight. Best/funnest cover I have ever heard.

"88. Thurs. April 7th: Corona, CA @ The Showcase Theater w/ Kill Your Idols, All Or Nothing HC, Mother Speed, Ghost Stories, Carry The Casket."

I was there.

Man, I'm really bummed about this.