My only complaint is that the Pot seems like it was directly lifted off of Undertow. Still a good song, though.

I also like how he revisits the Third Eye riff. I mean, you can't tell me you think that wasn't intentional. I think it makes that part all the better.

[QUOTE=Kage]My only complaint is that the Pot seems like it was directly lifted off of Undertow.[/QUOTE]
The Pot is my favorite song.

Jambi just sort of seems like the band saying, "hey, let's see how many strange time signatures we can fit into one song."

How do you mean the chord changes fit perfectly? It's a really generic progression, and the vocal line is quite bland in my opinion. The "damn my eyes" part is good, but aside from that it's a weak song.

This sync-up is very cool.

My favorite is the whole Wings series, plus Rosetta Stoned. I love the way Lost Keys transitions into Rosetta Stoned.

I love the sound of Lost Keys, period.

[QUOTE=Toaster]Jambi just sort of seems like the band saying, "hey, let's see how many strange time signatures we can fit into one song."

How do you mean the chord changes fit perfectly? It's a really generic progression, and the vocal line is quite bland in my opinion. The "damn my eyes" part is good, but aside from that it's a weak song.

This sync-up is very cool.[/QUOTE]
But everything moves in the right spots with the change. And the strange time complaint can go for nearly the whole album. Sometimes it just really turns me off to the album. Alot of times it's unnecessary.

[QUOTE=Moses]But everything moves in the right spots with the change. And the strange time complaint can go for nearly the whole album. Sometimes it just really turns me off to the album. Alot of times it's unnecessary.[/QUOTE]
Which can be attributed to their supposed Meshuggah influence, no?

This synch-up is badass. I almost enjoy their discovery element as much as the music.

The synch-up is pretty sweet. I'm not sure whether is was totally intentional (thought I feel it must've been) or just coincedence. In other news, Jambi is one of my favorite songs on the album. I'm just loving the guitar in that song, although I hated it when I first heard it.

[QUOTE=CocaineAndCrucifixes]Which can be attributed to their supposed Meshuggah influence, no?

This synch-up is badass. I almost enjoy their discovery element as much as the music.[/QUOTE]
I guess you're right. I just think the whole repeated groove with polyrhythms sounds cooler in a heavy metal format than in a progressive one.

[QUOTE=Toaster]I guess you're right. I just think the whole repeated groove with polyrhythms sounds cooler in a heavy metal format than in a progressive one.[/QUOTE]
In all honesty, I feel the polyrhythmic madness is going the way of a breakdown. It's not to say they cant be well done, but it becomes a "too much of a good thing" when a band (and not to say Tool does this) focuses entire songs/albums based around dissonant polyrhythmic chugging. Still, the odd time signatures really dont seem to bother me on 10,000 days, they seem fairly well placed.

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]The synch-up is pretty sweet. I'm not sure whether is was totally intentional (thought I feel it must've been) or just coincedence. In other news, Jambi is one of my favorite songs on the album. I'm just loving the guitar in that song, although I hated it when I first heard it.[/QUOTE]


Same for me, took me about 3 listens to start to like Jambi, now its my favourite next to the pot :)

I don't notice the different time signatures and polyrythms as being out of place or bad at all. To me, they blend in really well. I just can't get enough of the album, but I'm taking a break from it right now for some Aenima. \m/

The Pot?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OC9hHDV59c[/url]

It's cool but it's probly not legit.

[QUOTE=Moses]I wished they changed their sound on this album. It still is great but I wished it had a different sound than Lateralus. I mean all the albums have their own sound but this one is too similar to Lateralus.

Everything else kicks *** though.

Oh, and no I didn't find out the sync thing. I just quickly put it together for everyonelse. I don't wanna take credit for somthing I didn't discover.[/QUOTE]

Yet... most of the songs sound nothing like Lateralus songs, there's influences from all accross their back catalogue. I agree on the front that some parts do sound too similar to ideas they've already used, but it's still a killer album up there with Lateralus in my book, behind Ænima.

Wings are a progression from Lateralus, the whole native American vibe. Intension progresses with the electronic parts. It's not a unifying progression like other albums though, also yeah.. certain riffs being very similar to old material bugs me a little.

Anyway, what's all this syncing stuff? Is it actually good?

[QUOTE=Moses]I'm uploading it right now with the best I could manage it. I'm just gonna post it in here because I don't feel like sending it to anyone through email.
[B]
10,000 Days Sync[/B]
[url]http://download.yousendit.com/8DF62AA61D580147[/url][/QUOTE]
Here ya go man.

The synching and everything is incredible. Moses got it pretty well synched.

[QUOTE=Moses]Here ya go man.[/QUOTE]

Merci.

Wow man. This is the kind of crazy stuff that makes me love Tool so much.

Thanks for the sync Moses. It matched up perfectly.

I don't think it's coincidence. The heavy part matches up too well. Although around 8 minutes it sounds really terrible.

Yeah, it gets pretty dissonant at one point.

Both songs are based on triplets and use similar themes, i think it's just coincidence.

Seriously - they probably won't sit in the studio and think about what tracks could possibly sync together.

[QUOTE=Kosmos Tree]Both songs are based on triplets and use similar themes, i think it's just coincidence.

Seriously - they probably won't sit in the studio and think about what tracks could possibly sync together.[/QUOTE]
If you think it's just a coincidence, listen to it. Plus, everything adds up to the same length and they both get heavy at the same time.

[QUOTE=Kosmos Tree]Both songs are based on triplets and use similar themes, i think it's just coincidence.

Seriously - they probably won't sit in the studio and think about what tracks could possibly sync together.[/QUOTE]

That was my initial reaction, but the heavy parts start at [I]exactly[/I] the same time.

I like Jambi, but it's nothing spectacular.

Maynard doesn't do a bad vocal job at times throughout it.

[QUOTE=Moses]If you think it's just a coincidence, listen to it. Plus, [B]everything adds up to the same length[/B] and they both get heavy at the same time.[/QUOTE]

This is what makes it so obvious to me. Seriously, this album keeps on getting better and better.

[QUOTE=Kosmos Tree]Both songs are based on triplets and use similar themes, i think it's just coincidence.

Seriously - they probably won't sit in the studio and think about what tracks could possibly sync together.[/QUOTE]

Keep in mind that Viginti Tres stands for 23 in Latin, which in numerology is the number for syncronocity.

This whole synch thing is really doing nothing for me. It takes away from the regular WfM and 10,000 days.

Ok, as many of you know, there is a lot of hype about Tool. And the extent of this ever lasting mystery filled with so called new release dates for a second album, the booklet puzzle, and the tracks lining up in syncronocity. While I believe in the syncronocity something else came to my mind...

What I'm getting at is in some ways, many of us are slaves now to this Tool. 24/7 at the computer, searching finding out the latest info, lastest theories. I'm sure Tool right now are laughing at humanity itself, even the fans for having this pack mentality, much like a religious cult... I'm beginning to feel as if people are becoming way over obsessed in this new piece, and I'd wonder if all that we really should be doing is lying back and relaxing to the ambience of Tool.

I've seen threads relating to the apparent leakage of Oprah stating 10,000 Days having a sister album, 10,000 Years, the theories streatch from one extreme to another. The apparent formation of Danny Carey's orchids in his photograph having a similar shape to that of the number 23 (to me it doesn't look anything like 23) etc, etc. If all of this is true, well I don't see the relevence. So if there is to be another album that's great. If all this numerology is correct then well I don't really see the big deal.

This response has been induces because of the 10000-days.com site which is riddled with insane fanatics. As I have seen not all of us are that far fetched towards this, but it is just my thoughts overall.

[QUOTE=taylormemer]Ok, as many of you know, there is a lot of hype about Tool. And the extent of this ever lasting mystery filled with so called new release dates for a second album, the booklet puzzle, and the tracks lining up in syncronocity. While I believe in the syncronocity something else came to my mind...

What I'm getting at is in some ways, many of us are slaves now to this Tool. 24/7 at the computer, searching finding out the latest info, lastest theories. I'm sure Tool right now are laughing at humanity itself, even the fans for having this pack mentality, much like a religious cult... I'm beginning to feel as if people are becoming way over obsessed in this new piece, and I'd wonder if all that we really should be doing is lying back and relaxing to the ambience of Tool.

I've seen threads relating to the apparent leakage of Oprah stating 10,000 Days having a sister album, 10,000 Years, the theories streatch from one extreme to another. The apparent formation of Danny Carey's orchids in his photograph having a similar shape to that of the number 23 (to me it doesn't look anything like 23) etc, etc. If all of this is true, well I don't see the relevence. So if there is to be another album that's great. If all this numerology is correct then well I don't really see the big deal.

This response has been induces because of the 10000-days.com site which is riddled with insane fanatics. As I have seen not all of us are that far fetched towards this, but it is just my thoughts overall.[/QUOTE]
Hey, I didn't make that big of a deal about it. I just mixed the three together.

I wasn't referring to you, and I don't ever remember you being the first to discover this syncronocity. Correct me if I am wrong.

It wasn't directed at the hearts of individuals like you Moses, it's at the collective. The vibe I'm getting from all the Tool fanatics is pretty bad from my point of view.

Just ignore them, and listen to the music, and enjoy it. That's all Tool want.