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Tyler 08-22-2008 05:39 PM

Biblical stories can be so unbelievably violent and overthetop, that's why I find them so fascinating.

Permanent Solution 08-22-2008 05:42 PM

The old testament god is pretty much a study in contrasts by comparison to the go of the new testament. The former is spiteful and vengeful, and the latter is loving and paternal.

The best contrast I can think of is in the old testament, god kills all but ~20 humans. In the new testament he kills his son to save all humans.

Tyler 08-22-2008 05:45 PM

It's interesting to look at how other Judeo-Christian religions look at the characters and people within their theology. How one religious text sees a man as a prophet while another sees him as a god while another omits much of what the other says about a person.

publicastration 08-22-2008 05:48 PM

[quote=Permanent Solution;16615147]Think of how better christian metal would be if it told stories from the old testament instead of being like "praise jesus"[/quote]

+1

[quote=Cocaine;16615151]Biblical stories can be so unbelievably violent and overthetop, that's why I find them so fascinating.[/quote]

Some of the violence is so graphically described, it's worse than a Stephen King novel.

Which is hilarious when you consider that that book is the cornerstone of a religion and that many Christian parents would not let their child read King but let them read the bible which is worse in some ways.

Permanent Solution 08-22-2008 05:49 PM

What's quite possibly more intriguing is that all 3 believe in the same root religious texts (first 4 books), and yet have had more holy wars amongst themselves than between actually significantly religions.

Tyler 08-22-2008 05:49 PM

That is unless they read the King James translation which is such a pain in the *** to get through that no one will be bothered to figure out what it's actually talking about.

[QUOTE]What's quite possibly more intriguing is that all 3 believe in the same root religious texts (first 4 books), and yet have had more holy wars amongst themselves than between actually significantly religions.[/QUOTE]
Yes, that too. My favourite is the sort of cultural ignorance I see between militant Christians who somehow fail to realize that their God is the same God believed in by Muslims.

Permanent Solution 08-22-2008 05:52 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16615174]That is unless they read the King James translation which is such a pain in the *** to get through that no one will be bothered to figure out what it's actually talking about.


Yes, that too. My favourite is the sort of cultural ignorance I see between militant Christians who somehow fail to realize that their God is the same God believed in by Muslims.[/QUOTE]
Well no really the issue is that no one actually reads the bible, so they just have no idea. It's not like they read those passages in scripture.

Well...it depends. Any christian sect that believes that the holy trinity=god don't really have the same god as the muslims.

publicastration 08-22-2008 05:55 PM

Well God as in the father is the same. But trinitarian (IE most) christians believe Jesus is God so they don't believe in quite the same God as muslims by their interpetation of things.

Tyler 08-22-2008 05:56 PM

They believe in the same God they just believe he's manifested or represented in a different way. At least that was always my understanding of it.

publicastration 08-22-2008 05:57 PM

Many Christians don't believe Jesus is merely a manifestation of God though.

Tyler 08-22-2008 05:58 PM

[QUOTE=Luc214;16615179]Many Christians don't believe Jesus is merely a manifestation of God though.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I know. I'm not talking about the conceptual differences between a Holy Trinity and divine oneness, just that it's ultimately the same god and the same cast of people just with different interpretations on their existence and role.

Dimmu Burger 08-22-2008 06:02 PM

I was taught That God and Jesus are prettymuch the same person, so really the trinity is three variations of the same entity, IMO of course.

Permanent Solution 08-22-2008 06:03 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16615178]They believe in the same God they just believe he's manifested or represented in a different way. At least that was always my understanding of it.[/QUOTE]
But it really is a gross difference in god, because one believes that god came to earth to save humanity, and one believes a prophet who communicated with god came to preach good morality. Thus, one group believes god cared enough to sacrifice himself, in a sense, for humans.

I'm not saying they should get their panties in a twist over it like they do, but there is a bit of a difference.

edit: Right, all three parts of the holy triniy are all god. they are all one entity.

AA-12 08-22-2008 06:09 PM

this thread is getting to be a lot like punching myself in the balls

Tyler 08-22-2008 06:13 PM

yea sory

sup guysi m drunk im so high do it in the butt homos

Angmar 08-22-2008 06:14 PM

Wonder what happened to Retired.

Probably died of an overdose.

:lol:

Tyler 08-22-2008 06:15 PM

yeah that's hilarious stevo

Permanent Solution 08-22-2008 06:15 PM

so today i tried this new drug and it was super trippy, i have a whole new appreciation of music

Angmar 08-22-2008 06:16 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16615211]yeah that's hilarious stevo[/QUOTE]

jeez the laughing was sarcastic i didn't mean it :(

masscows 08-22-2008 06:17 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16615211]yeah that's hilarious stevo[/QUOTE]

i would not be at all surprised if it were true though

Angmar 08-22-2008 06:40 PM

Yeah, idk he's probably out making his amazing black metal CD and he'll come back and impress us all and I'll be all:

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Txus 08-22-2008 06:47 PM

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AA-12 08-22-2008 06:48 PM

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publicastration 08-22-2008 06:54 PM

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Permanent Solution 08-22-2008 06:59 PM

*points at thread title*

>:[

Angmar 08-22-2008 07:02 PM

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publicastration 08-22-2008 07:05 PM

**** beat me to it

Tyler 08-22-2008 07:07 PM

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Bronson 08-22-2008 07:09 PM

hey i see it didnt take long to get back on track

publicastration 08-22-2008 07:13 PM

hey I see you've helped as usual


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