Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knows any bands that are Tool/APC like. {which don't scream}?

[QUOTE=Otherside]So you're suggesting that Mikael Akerfeldt doens't have talent?




:\[/QUOTE]Yes he has talent when using his real voice, but not when he growls.

[QUOTE=AdventEnd]Well I don't think you have to be talented to do it. Therefor it's a matter of opinion.[/QUOTE]

Okay, fine.

Scream/Growl you lungs out as hard as you can.

To lyrics.

Keep doing it for about three to five to possibly 21 minutes (listen to I by Meshuggah).

Now, go on a tour and do a set of about 11-12 songs where you keep doing that.

Yes, it takes talent.

Consider the other side of the situation, Sonny-Jim.

That doesn't make any sense :/

[QUOTE=Syncratic]Okay, fine.

Scream/Growl you lungs out as hard as you can.

To lyrics.

Keep doing it for about three to five to possibly 21 minutes (listen to I by Meshuggah).

Now, go on a tour and do a set of about 11-12 songs where you keep doing that.

Yes, it takes talent.

Consider the other side of the situation, Sonny-Jim.[/QUOTE]Well whoopy-****, I don't wanna start **** with anyone, but I fell that simply screaming all the time you eventually get used to it. Hell I stood in for one of our local bands and screamed for just about five minuetes, and was asked to be the second vocalist for the band. All I'm saying is it doesn't impress me one bit.

Okay, that's fine.

Still, it doesn't mean that it doesn't require talent.

[QUOTE=Syncratic]Okay, that's fine.

Still, it doesn't mean that it doesn't require talent.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I take it back. But all I was saying in the beggining is that I'm not a fan.

We're cool, then.

New discussion: How much 'The Pot' kicks as[U]s[/U] and why.

[QUOTE=Syncratic]We're cool, then.

New discussion: How much 'The Pot' kicks as[U]s[/U] and why.[/QUOTE]True Dat Lol. For some reason I can't let go of how akward, "Got lemon juice up in your eye" is. Buuuuut I guess since it's Tool... i'll let it go...

The guitar riff is just so great.

I can't wait for this to be the next single, and what the clip will be like.

[QUOTE=AdventEnd]Well I don't think you have to be talented to do it. Therefor it's a matter of opinion.[/QUOTE]

You'd be wrong then. I'd like to see you growl/scream as well as the most accomplished growlers/screamers.

[QUOTE=Shadius]You'd be wrong then. I'd like to see you growl/scream as well as the most accomplished growlers/screamers.[/QUOTE]Dude, let it go. You don't have to be all offended by it.

[QUOTE=Shadius]You'd be wrong then. I'd like to see you growl/scream as well as the most accomplished growlers/screamers.[/QUOTE]

Settle down, the argument's been over for a bit.

So yeah I checked the reveiw on here for 10,000 Days I don't think it did it much justice. I love the Lost Keys/ Rosetta Stoned combo and Right in Two.

[QUOTE=Syncratic]The guitar riff is just so great.

I can't wait for this to be the next single, and what the clip will be like.[/QUOTE]


Really? I thought it was bland. tbh.

It's my 2nd fav off 10,000 days, behind Vicarious

[QUOTE=AdventEnd]Dude, let it go. You don't have to be all offended by it.[/QUOTE]

lol, i'm not. I don't listen to many screaming or growling bands, tbh, just a handful, but I can tell when they have talent.

Point is, your logic is along the lines of someone saying they don't like the sound of a guitar, and that guitar playing requires no talent.

anyways, new tool album rocks.

[QUOTE=I'm Charming]Really? I thought it was bland. tbh.[/QUOTE]

I love it.

tbh? What the h[U]e[/U]ll does that mean?

To be honest, how long have you been on the internet for? :p

The Pot is my 2nd favourite song on 10,000 Days, after the title track.

Opeth are very talented, and Michael is excellent at both growling and clean vox. Unfortunately like a lot of people I just hate the style, growling to me is something cheesy black/death metal bands who wear way too much makeup do to sound hardcore. Opeth are an incredibly mature and talented band, the growling is completely out of place imho.

[QUOTE=AdventEnd]Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knows any bands that are Tool/APC like. {which don't scream}?[/QUOTE]
I gave you a big list last night. go back and look.

[QUOTE=borisdablade]Opeth are very talented, and Michael is excellent at both growling and clean vox. Unfortunately like a lot of people I just hate the style, growling to me is something cheesy black/death metal bands who wear way too much makeup do to sound hardcore. Opeth are an incredibly mature and talented band, the growling is completely out of place imho.[/QUOTE]

Except Opeth have been using that style of vocals since before any "hardcore" bands ever got started :\

I have to say my favourite songs on this album so far after 15 listens(OMG thats prob 20 hrs of my life I've given to this album already - yikes!) has to be wings pt1 & pt2. Gets me going every time!!

Then again I cant help but keep singin to myself when im bored..."monkey killing monkey killing monkey". The funny looks I keep getting off people...

Opeth's growling out of place? It fits the music so perfectly. It's not like cheesier growls of some black metal bands (not starting anything), the growls just seem to fill out the music more.

[QUOTE=borisdablade]Opeth are very talented, and Michael is excellent at both growling and clean vox. Unfortunately like a lot of people I just hate the style, growling to me is something cheesy black/death metal bands who wear way too much makeup do to sound hardcore. Opeth are an incredibly mature and talented band, the growling is completely out of place imho.[/QUOTE]Finally, somone who will agree with me. Hah.

[QUOTE=Rothmans]What am I meant to be looking for exactly?[/QUOTE]

Yes this is old I know, and somebody already informed you but if they didn't, his name isn't Maynard James Keenan it's James Herbert Keenan.

[QUOTE=AdventEnd]Finally, somone who will agree with me. Hah.[/QUOTE]

Growling, as Mikael does it, which is deep and powerful and controlled, is the most extreme thing you can do with your voice. It fits the extreme parts of their music perfectly.

Having a clean melody over every evil-sounding dissonant riff would sound extremely odd, not to mention pretty terrible in most cases.

Opiate: Opiate
Undertow: Sober
Aenima: Eulogy/H (tied, can't decide)
Salival: Pu****
Lateralus: Lateralus
10,000 Days: The Pot (at the moment)

my favourite song off 10000days is lipan conjuring

Undertow: Sober
Aenima: H.
Salival: No Quarter
Lateralus: The Patient
10,000 Days: Right In Two

Pretty hard to do. Aenima and 10,000 Days are the one's I'm not really sure about.

[QUOTE=magicbus]Opeth's growling out of place? It fits the music so perfectly. It's not like cheesier growls of some black metal bands (not starting anything), the growls just seem to fill out the music more.[/QUOTE]


Black Metal growls cheesy? lawl @ you
Everything Opeth does blends perfectly.
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[QUOTE= borisdablade]
Opeth are very talented, and Michael is excellent at both growling and clean vox. Unfortunately like a lot of people I just hate the style, growling to me is something cheesy black/death metal bands who wear way too much makeup do to sound hardcore. Opeth are an incredibly mature and talented band, the growling is completely out of place imho.
[/QUOTE]

I agree on Opeth.

Could you point out some Death Metal bands that wear make up please?
I sure can't think of any.
Growling isn't to make Death Metal sound "hardcore'. I have no idea where you get that. It's part of the sound.

Black Metal wise- Yes some of the guys wore Corpse Paint. It isn't to seem "hardcore". Please...
The growls & screams are a important part of BM. Can you picture BM with clear vocals only?
Same with DM.

I'm not going to argue BM & DM Vs *insert genre here* but the growls and screams are a central part.