[QUOTE=AdventEnd]I just posted a new thread about this, but has anyone noticed that bands like APC and Tool are becoming rare? Metal is getting too far into that screaming ****, and it annoys me.[/QUOTE]
Tool and APC aren't really metal.

You also have the choice to listen to something else if growling bothers you that much.

^ yeap metal is getting bland imo

check this out [url]http://ebaumsworld.com/videos/mothers-day-picture.html[/url]

[B][/B]Well I know I'm not putting it down, and they both aren't metal but thay have certain characteristics of metal, which is why I classified them as that. I just feel that good solid bands like that are becoming extict.

[B][/B]Lmao. That was great. I'm diggin' the Tool shirt with the tie.

[QUOTE=AdventEnd][B][/B]Well I know I'm not putting it down, and they both aren't metal but thay have certain characteristics of metal, which is why I classified them as that. I just feel that good solid bands like that are becoming extict.[/QUOTE]
what distorted guitars? Thats all they have in common with metal.

Check out Porcupine Tree, ELP, Rush, Genesis, Camel, Cog, Deadsoul tribe, King Crimson, Dredg, Zappa, GORDIAN KNOT (Check them out!), Spocks Beard, Riverside, Ulver.

I would say Cynic, Death, and Opeth...But they have growls.

[QUOTE=Futuro]Check out Porcupine Tree, ELP, Rush, Genesis, Camel, Cog, Deadsoul tribe, King Crimson, Dredg, Zappa, GORDIAN KNOT (Check them out!), Spocks Beard, Riverside, Ulver.

I would say Cynic, Death, and Opeth...But they have growls.[/QUOTE]
You should advise him against early Ulver.

[QUOTE=Diabolus in Musica]You should advise him against early Ulver.[/QUOTE]
Good point. I seriously dont see any point in not liking something just because of the vocals. If Instrumentation is good I like it.

[QUOTE=Futuro]Good point. I seriously dont see any point in not liking something just because of the vocals. If Instrumentation is good I like it.[/QUOTE]
Neither do I. I am also willing to bet he thinks that growling is an illegitimate form of vocals.

[QUOTE=Futuro]Good point. I seriously dont see any point in not liking something just because of the vocals. If Instrumentation is good I like it.[/QUOTE]
Okay, take your very favourite song. Now, take out whatever vocals are in that song, and replace them with a baby squalling throughout the entire song. Do you still enjoy the song in spite of the new "vocals"?

Personally for me, nothing ruins a song more easily than really bad vocals, or a vocal style I just personally can't stand.

[QUOTE=BurtonChancellor]Okay, take your very favourite song. Now, take out whatever vocals are in that song, and replace them with a baby squalling throughout the entire song. Do you still enjoy the song in spite of the new "vocals"?

Personally for me, nothing ruins a song more easily than really bad vocals, or a vocal style I just personally can't stand.[/QUOTE]
To a point I understandwhere you are coming from. But seriously a baby squealing would be the most original thing in a while.

For the record there was a time I didn't enjoy death growls. Thank god that passed over.

It depends for me. A lot of the time, I find that despite the vocals, I might like the music so much that I stop even paying attention to the singer. At other times, I just can't bear to listen to an album when the vocalist is clearly the most annoying/untalented person in music today.

[QUOTE=BurtonChancellor]Okay, take your very favourite song. Now, take out whatever vocals are in that song, and replace them with a baby squalling throughout the entire song. Do you still enjoy the song in spite of the new "vocals"?[/QUOTE]

Hey now, Cesaro Summability is my favourite Tool song. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Futuro]For the record there was a time I didn't enjoy death growls. Thank god that passed over.[/QUOTE]

Me too, I also thank God I got over them, otherwise my musical taste would be half as diverse as it is now.

[QUOTE=Riva]It depends for me. A lot of the time, I find that despite the vocals, I might like the music so much that I stop even paying attention to the singer. At other times, I just can't bear to listen to an album when the vocalist is clearly the most annoying/untalented person in music today.[/QUOTE]

123.

"After completing a round of American dates later this month and ensuing tours of Europe and Japan, [Tool] will return to the States in the fall."

FFS they are skipping Australia on the first round, that sucks so much balls, bloody yanks get everything :mad:

Yeah, they usually do.

i bummed i wont see these guys next week in Philly. I refuse to pay more than 100 bucks for a ticket, so it appears that way :upset:

Tell me guys, what are my chances of seeing Tool live when I'm in New York in December? I'll also be in London...Is there any chance of seeing them live?

[QUOTE]Check out Porcupine Tree, ELP, Rush, Genesis, Camel, Cog, Deadsoul tribe, King Crimson, Dredg, Zappa, GORDIAN KNOT (Check them out!), Spocks Beard, Riverside, Ulver.

I would say Cynic, Death, and Opeth...But they have growls.[/QUOTE]

Out of those bands which are their respectively best albums..?

[QUOTE]Good point. I seriously dont see any point in not liking something just because of the vocals. If Instrumentation is good I like it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Neither do I. I am also willing to bet he thinks that growling is an illegitimate form of vocals.[/QUOTE]

It's nothing like that, really. To me, the music and the vox should work as one continuous piece. Hell, there are bands out there that I like were the vocals would make a person stick a hot poker in their ears (e.i. TMV, Rush, QotSA, SoaD, Pat Matheny), but the vocals work perfectly with the music. If the vocals are just s h i t, and doesn't mix well with the music, I'll get that hot poker ready..

I think the most annoying thing is when a person is growling about his last birthday party. I mean f u c k...was it that bad, or did the cheese tray give you fierce constipation..? If the music and the song calls for it, by all means, but if your just doing it because you can't sing or you want to fit into a specific genre, then you're doing it for the wrong reasons..

[QUOTE=clearvision]You should REALLY check out this band called Jesu. Their newest EP 'Silver' is brilliant, kinda like Isis i suppose that kinda post metal sound but with nice vocals :)

And this tour is just tool.

And AJIG i have a mogwai album 'young team' but am not that impressed. Anychance i'd like any of their other stuff. I just was pretty bored listening to the one i have..[/QUOTE]

My whole post got igored i think :-/

[QUOTE=penelope weird hands]Hey now, Cesaro Summability is my favourite Tool song. :rolleyes: QUOTE]

I'm not trying to be rude, but how is that your favorite Tool song? Its not really even a song.

i was a HUGE fan of message to Harry Manback II for some reason. I wouldnt say it was "my favorite song"

[QUOTE=UpperDecker]I'm not trying to be rude, but how is that your favorite Tool song? Its not really even a song.[/QUOTE]

He was being sarcastic.

That's really hard to pick one favorite Tool song. I'll try for each album though

Opiate-Cold and Ugly
Undertow-Sober
Aenima- Eulogy
Salival- Merkaba
Lateralus- Parabol/Parabola or Ticks and Leeches (can't choose!)
10,000 Days- Wings for Marie (could change, i gotta let the album sink in a little)

Opiate - Cold and Ugly
Undertow - Sober
Aenima - wow.. uh.. I'll say Pus[COLOR=White]h[/Color]it
Salival - No Quarter
Lateralus - The Grudge
10,000 Days - Right in Two

Opiate - Opiate
Undertow - 4 degrees
Aenima - Third Eye
Salival - No Quarter
Lateralus - Reflection (Tricky one)
10,000 Days - Right In Two/10K Days (Not sure which)

Opiate - Cold and Ugly
Undertow - Intolerance
AEnima - Eulogy
Salival - Merkaba
Lateralus - Ticks and Leeches
10,000 Days - Jambi

Opiate - Jerk-off
Undertow - Undertow/Crawl Away
Aenima - Push!t
Salival - No Quarter
Lateralus - The Patient (ahh. it's killing me to pick one...)
10,000 Days - 10 000days

Jerk-off
Prison sex
Jimmy
Pu**** (Lol i like pu**** cause it has the word ****)
Lateralus
Vicarious

Sweat
Undertow
Push!t
No Quarter
Parabola
Vicarious

Opiate - Part Of Me
Undertow - Sober
Aenima - Aenema
Salival - Pu**** Live
Lateralus - The Grudge I guess
10,000 Days - Jambi atm