Watch The World is my favourite. There Is was the first I had heard and probably one of the better tracks, even if the lyrics are a little cheesy.

Edit: Better?

How is it emo?

Emo is stuff like Hot Cross.

[QUOTE=Bad Blood]How is it emo?

Emo is stuff like Hot Cross.[/QUOTE]
Hence the quotations. I know what emo is. I listen to it.

:p

I was just saying...

found this on a essay site

“Blink182 is not a sellout” Despite popular opinion, the band Blink182 is not a sellout. Many fans of punk rock condemn the band for it’s success and radio play. If making it big is selling out, then, who would not sell out? An individual on a message board posted, “ I agree that blink182 is horrible, but I am sick of hearing kids refer to bands as sellouts. Who gives a f___? I will listen to any band as long as it sounds good to me“ ( pop ). The fact is, the term sellout is applied too freely and is a hyperbole. A true sellout is something blink182 is not. Selling out is changing dramatically and going against ones fans for worldly pleasures such as money and fame.

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That essay is stupid and wrong.


Btw to keep on topic, I've been playing some Blink182 on guitar today. It had been a long long time since last time (excuse the redundance). I love the "solo" to Carousel.

Blink have never changed there music style there newer album is a bit more mature and experimental and they didnt know if people would like it, so thats not selling out, only if they new people would buy it then maybe.

Dude Ranch ---> Enema Of The State.


Selling Out.


It's not a bad thing, it just happens, get over it.

The definition that person gives of a sell-out is a little sketchy... I wouldn't really say Blink sold out. They just matured, besides, they were really popular before they changed their sound.

[QUOTE=Fire Whispers]The definition that person gives of a sell-out is a little sketchy... I wouldn't really say Blink sold out. They just matured, besides, they were really popular before they changed their sound.[/QUOTE]

By your words I'm guessing you think that guy says they sold out?

[QUOTE=albert_bass]Dude Ranch ---> Enema Of The State.
Selling Out.
It's not a bad thing, it just happens, get over it.[/QUOTE]
When you listen to Dude Ranch, then Enema of the State, you can easily tell it's the same band. Same sound, same style, just a little more polish on the latter. That's not selling out.

[QUOTE=albert_bass]By your words I'm guessing you think that guy says they sold out?[/QUOTE]
No, I just think his definition of a sell-out at the end isn't accurate.

It is to change their sound to get more pop friendly.


When you listen to Americana, then CO1 you can easily tell it's the same band. Same sound, same style. A little more poppy on the latter. To change it that way is selling out. And to not sell more albums that way is being even laughable, and I LOVE The Offspring.

[QUOTE=Fire Whispers]No, I just think his definition of a sell-out at the end isn't accurate.[/QUOTE]

Oh I see, I misunderstood you with the first half of the post.

[QUOTE=Untitled]How can you have a song that isnt mixed? that makes no sence to me.[/QUOTE]

no not mixed..i just dont no the proper word for it.
im meaning when you record it but it hasnt been messed around with..like not fixed up or ne thing ...its exactly how he recorded it..
it mite take me a while to post it up here coz dad got a new computer drive and it doesnt have msn so i have to use web messanger for now but as soon i get it ill put it up!!! properbly within the next 4 days

[QUOTE=albert_bass]It is to change their sound to get more pop friendly.[/QUOTE]
They were already pretty big beforehand.
[QUOTE]
When you listen to Americana, then CO1 you can easily tell it's the same band. Same sound, same style. A little more poppy on the latter. To change it that way is selling out. And to not sell more albums that way is being even laughable, and I LOVE The Offspring.[/QUOTE]
Change "selling out" to a "personal career decision", then I agree with you. Even musicians have to eat, and would like to strive to be on top of their industry.

I said it's not a bad thing. But changing your thoughts, your actions and your music just to fit what the public likes is what both bands did. If that's not selling out please god come here and tell us what is it.

[QUOTE=melz__]no not mixed..i just dont no the proper word for it.
im meaning when you record it but it hasnt been messed around with..like not fixed up or ne thing ...its exactly how he recorded it..
it mite take me a while to post it up here coz dad got a new computer drive and it doesnt have msn so i have to use web messanger for now but as soon i get it ill put it up!!! properbly within the next 4 days[/QUOTE]

The word can be mixed or mastered.

When you listen to Americana, then CO1 you can easily tell it's the same band. Same sound, same style. A little more poppy on the latter. To change it that way is selling out. And to not sell more albums that way is being even laughable, and I LOVE The Offspring.

Unless I'm misunderstanding you, you think the Offspring sold out, and I'd have to disagree. Either way, This is the blink thread, so i won't argue in here. I do love you for loving the offspring though, they're my favorite band.

And now we have Offspring + Blink + Distillers + Box Car Racer. It's almost like an all star team.

and i is clearly the best song :)

I personally can't wait for Angels and Airwaves. Tom's talked it up quite a bit but I think he has reason too. Thinking of these songs: I feel so, there is (pretty much the entire boxcar racer album actually), Time to break up, what went wrong (such a great song), and alot of the ones on self-titled, especially always which is my favourite song of all time and shows Tom's true song writing ability (if he did write it that is). I don't know if Tom wrote these songs, but it seems like his style so I think he wrote the majority of those songs.
I think Blink's music has only gotten better over the years aswell, so I think Angels and Airwaves will be huge, at least to blink fans. This is just my personal opinion, so don't go mocking me if you think i'm completely wrong.

[QUOTE=albert_bass]I said it's not a bad thing. But changing your thoughts, your actions and your music just to fit what the public likes is what both bands did. If that's not selling out please god come here and tell us what is it.[/QUOTE]
I'm arguing that they didn't really change anything as far as style goes, which they didn't. Therefore, they didn't sell out.

Anyways, I hope AAA doesn't turn out to be a disappointment.

[QUOTE=Independent_CA]

Anyways, I hope AAA doesn't turn out to be a disappointment.[/QUOTE]

obvoiusly :thumb:

[QUOTE=10571z]and i is clearly the best song :)[/QUOTE]

I always get that and Letters To God mixed up, because in Letters To God he goes "and i, i won't lie..." in the chorus.
Anyway, I think the best song is The End With You or Sorrow.

[QUOTE=plaidbassbilly]I always get that and Letters To God mixed up, because in Letters To God he goes "and i, i won't lie..." in the chorus.
Anyway, I think the best song is The End With You or Sorrow.[/QUOTE]
i thought there best song was dont leave me or whatever its called, but its to emo for me lol.

[QUOTE=FauxApathy]When you listen to Americana, then CO1 you can easily tell it's the same band. Same sound, same style. A little more poppy on the latter. To change it that way is selling out. And to not sell more albums that way is being even laughable, and I LOVE The Offspring.

Unless I'm misunderstanding you, you think the Offspring sold out, and I'd have to disagree. Either way, This is the blink thread, so i won't argue in here. I do love you for loving the offspring though, they're my favorite band.

And now we have Offspring + Blink + Distillers + Box Car Racer. It's almost like an all star team.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry to inform you The Offspring are playing just for the money. How could you explain their ****ty greatest hits album, the fact that they totally forgot their 2 first albums, because "people won't like them, they're not enough poppy" in words of noodles, or the news about a marketing study they did about the names in albums and songs to make them increase the sales posted in their official site?

The same with Blink 182 although I can't provide you information about that since I don't like them that much.

[QUOTE=Independent_CA]I'm arguing that they didn't really change anything as far as style goes, which they didn't. Therefore, they didn't sell out.[/QUOTE]

And I've said with this 3 times they changed their sound to a more poppy side just to fit what the public wants and get more money therefore they sold out. Of course the style is the same, it has still punk influences but you can't deny they've gone poppier.

Well obviously they've gotten poppier cos pop means popular. But if you are meaning the modern definition of pop, then I still dont think so. Yes they changed a little bit, and so does every band on every album, you cant play the exact same over and over through the whole of your career. One of the main reasons people say they sold out on Enema is because of the 'Cleaner production' of the major labels. If they recorded Enema with the same production as dude ranch, I doubt the same amount of people would be saying they sold out.

[QUOTE=*Blink*182*Guy*]Well obviously they've gotten poppier cos pop means popular. But if you are meaning the modern definition of pop, then I still dont think so. Yes they changed a little bit, and so does every band on every album, you cant play the exact same over and over through the whole of your career. One of the main reasons people say they sold out on Enema is because of the 'Cleaner production' of the major labels. If they recorded Enema with the same production as dude ranch, I doubt the same amount of people would be saying they sold out.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly what I am trying to say. If blink had started as say an indie band and then went pop-punk for the fame, then yeah, that would be selling out. They didn't do that though, they were a pop-punk band from the beginning.

Man I think you guys just don't get it. I don't say they sold out because they changed their sound. Thiusands of bands change their sound and a lot of these bands also do it to a poppy side. The point is not a change of sound but a change of sound in order to. Blink 182 didn't change their sound because they felt like evolving musically, they did it because they wanted to be popular. Why if not did they all of a sudden avoid any kind of complication in their music, why did they wan to be on MTV, why did Mark and Tom let Travis convince them to be poppier? I already said this isn't a bad thing but it has a name: selling out. Letting your ideals slip in order to make mone. I'd probably do the same but don't try to make like if they didn't just because you are a fanboy.

[QUOTE=Independent_CA]This is exactly what I am trying to say. If blink had started as say an indie band and then went pop-punk for the fame, then yeah, that would be selling out. They didn't do that though, they were a pop-punk band from the beginning.[/QUOTE]

I have to admit, they made their songs less complicated and more poppier. But you are absolutely correct, they were always a pop-punk band.

[QUOTE=albert_bass]Man I think you guys just don't get it. I don't say they sold out because they changed their sound. Thiusands of bands change their sound and a lot of these bands also do it to a poppy side. The point is not a change of sound but a change of sound in order to. Blink 182 didn't change their sound because they felt like evolving musically, they did it because they wanted to be popular. Why if not did they all of a sudden avoid any kind of complication in their music, why did they wan to be on MTV, why did Mark and Tom let Travis convince them to be poppier? I already said this isn't a bad thing but it has a name: selling out. Letting your ideals slip in order to make mone. I'd probably do the same but don't try to make like if they didn't just because you are a fanboy.[/QUOTE]
What ideals did they espouse exactly? As others have said, they were already popular before EOTS and lets not forget that for the next two or three years, they tried attracting as much attention to punk in general as possible.

I believe that selling out exists, and there are perfect examples of it *cough* Anti-Flag *cough*. I don't think blink and some other bands really qualify because like I said earlier, they were always a pop-punk band. Yes, they were punk musically and toured with some serious punk-bands, but they have always fallen on the pop-side which appeals to a wider audience.

I'm not defending them just because I like them, I'm just tired of hearing the term "sell-out" thrown around everytime a band gets even remotely popular. It's gotten to the point where I have a friend or two who have stopped listening to bands they loved because and I quote, "Too many people like them now" or "They got too popular".

[QUOTE=albert_bass]Why if not did they all of a sudden avoid any kind of complication in their music[/QUOTE]
The main beef I have with your post is this bit. Not playing complicated music does not mean selling out. That's what pop-punk is. They play simple music because they want to, not to make money. Their genre is simple. That's just the way it is.

Blink's first few albums with more complicated guitar parts and percussion were their best though. Easily.

[QUOTE=Simon__Thats_All]The main beef I have with your post is this bit. Not playing complicated music does not mean selling out. That's what pop-punk is. They play simple music because they want to, not to make money. Their genre is simple. That's just the way it is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=guns_of_brixton]Blink's first few albums with more complicated guitar parts and percussion were their best though. Easily.[/QUOTE]

I think the first post got half answered with the second.

Don't tell me pop-punk is simple, that doesn't have anything to do with my post. I said they avoided any complication later. They have always been pop-punk (except S-T) and they sold out. Again, get over it.

Yes, I agree with you Sean.

[I]"We've done the same things that we were doing in the begining, and we never wanted our band to stay small. I mean, we want our band to be as big as it can, and I'm not going to die wondering about some kid that calls us a sell-out at a show. I don't have a problem being on MTV, and I don't have a problem being on the radio. I actually like it. So there. And anyone that calls me a sell out is just jealous."[/I]
-Mark Hoppus

That should clear up what they think about it. Anyways, this whole time I've basically been arguing that they didn't sell out because they 1) didn't really change their style, 2) acted the same from beginning to stardom, 3) like all musicians, dreamed of the opportunity to go big, and took it when they got it. To me and many others, that's not really selling out. However, at this point, I think it's best that we simply agree to disagree and move on with the thread rather than debate to the end of time.

They are not sellouts, metallica are sellouts.

[url=http://www.himynameismark.com/]Mark loves me more than anyone else in the whole wide world[/url]

Who cares if they soldout..... i dont care i still like them.... so stop having little crys and pretend your all hardcore..... and just listen to the music.....

[QUOTE=*Blink*182*Guy*]One of the main reasons people say they sold out on Enema is because of the 'Cleaner production' of the major labels. If they recorded Enema with the same production as dude ranch, I doubt the same amount of people would be saying they sold out.[/QUOTE]

thats exacatly true.......... the recording makes the album sound more popish than its really is.....

trust me i have a very very very very very very very very rare enema of the state demo .... it even has a instrumental track called life is so boring... but anwyays its a demo of the songs they were about tol do about buddha quailty and i can tell you songs like what my age again and aliens exist dont sound popish watsoever.... ill try and find it but i had to get **** off my comp and again its on a disk :(.... i have millions around cant find it

I have that too. It's got this really poor version of Man Overboard on it, I'm so glad they didn't keep that version.

[QUOTE=10571z]thats exacatly true.......... the recording makes the album sound more popish than its really is.....

trust me i have a very very very very very very very very rare enema of the state demo .... it even has a instrumental track called life is so boring[/QUOTE]
Yeah, so rare...

[url]http://www.punkdisasters.com/media_audio.php[/url]

Nothing of Blink is rare anymore