their most recent album just seems like a poor attempt at crossing post-hardcore and melodic death metal. Their first album was pretty much just generic metalcore, but their 2nd album was pretty cool in that it had some odd riffing that was very DEP-esque.

[QUOTE=masscows;15018913]their most recent album just seems like a poor attempt at crossing post-hardcore and melodic death metal. Their first album was pretty much just generic metalcore, but their 2nd album was pretty cool in that it had some odd riffing that was very DEP-esque.[/QUOTE]

I see the post hardcore, but I dont really see the MDM. It seemed to me like they tried to write better songs instead of having a big riff extravaganza like on the prior record.

if i remember correctly there were some harmonized leads and whatnot

[QUOTE=masscows;15018920]if i remember correctly there were some harmonized leads and whatnot[/QUOTE]

I'll add that to my list of "Listen to again to see what that guy is talking about" :thumb:

[QUOTE=Dimmu Burger;15018572]I still haven't gotten to listen to that, and I should considering it influenced a bunch of bands I like.[/QUOTE]

Album pwns. It is better than NJ, The Chariot, and all other bands like that, even tho I still like NJ and The Chariot.

[quote=Dimmu Burger;15017823]Agreed.

And BTW I have a hard time getting into Chimaira. They have like two or three catchy songs grand total but the rest is hard for me to get into, due to the nu-metal influence.[/quote]

The S/T has very little nu-metal influence. It's a very metal record. So is much of [I]The Impossibility of Reason[/I].

No, all Chimaira has done isn't good. Kevin Talley wasted his time.

Kevin Talley was the worst thing to happen to that record (and the band), what are you talking about? Herrick owns Talley.

Uhhh, Talley is amazing and shouldn't have wated his time on a mediocre Metalcore album?

Norma Jean and the Chariot both suck massive amounts of balls.

[I]We Are The Romans[/I] is awesome.

Yeah, that album is better than both of those bands, but I still like them.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalcore[/url]

ARG!

No. Why do we need to have that link?

That article said Leeway is metalcore...

"MARK OF THE SQUEALER!!!"

The part about the breakdowns was pretty amusing.

They also said Atreyu was an influential band to the genre.

NP: Botch- Transitions from Persona to Object

That's my favorite Botch song.

Mine is still C. Tomas Howell as the "Soul Man".

atreyu's better than everybody gives them credit for

this flesh a tomb is a really nice song

I can't even talk about Atreyu without feeling sick. They shame the entire genre.