i don't get it

is it because he said "grammer"?

because that's not really a grammar issue that's just bad spelling. grammar is like syntax and structure foo

well tbh grammar and spelling are two different things so idk he could suck at spelling but be a grammar wizard

EDIT: yeah beat

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[QUOTE=jk2two;17778169]Emperor are so hard to compare to any other black metal band. No one can use polyphony like they do - 5, 6, 7 melodies at once... and it still works? Just incredible. They are in a class all their own, but that is not to say they are the only black metal worth listening to...[/QUOTE]

technical skill is a means, not an end. it's when it's treated at an end that boring unoriginal bands get praise, like late emperor or ihsahn, and certainly meshuggah

[QUOTE=Stevie;17778891]technical skill is a means, not an end. it's when it's treated at an end that boring unoriginal bands get praise, like late emperor or ihsahn, and certainly meshuggah[/QUOTE]

I would agree with Meshuggah and Ihsahn, but I think late Emperor has a lot more too it than you give it credit for. Sure, I could see it not being your style, but it's far from music based purely on technicality

yeah i wasn't 100% on including emperor on that...i wanted more to relate it to the post i was quoting :-s

i never found anything good about IX Equilibrium but Prometheus has some good passages

[QUOTE=xkeyboardmoshx;17778235]What does something being black metal or not have to do with credibility?[/QUOTE]

let's not kid ourselves, they obviously wanted money when they released that album

[QUOTE=masscows;17778995]let's not kid ourselves, they obviously wanted money when they released that album[/QUOTE]

seriously?

I'm pretty sure they're all still workin at mcdonalds

even the most popular of death metal bands don't make that much money it's a relatively small fan base either way

and stevie i agree but I dunno I love Prometheus it's such a ****ing weird awesome album. although weird isn't what you guys are typically looking for i suppose

Dimmu Borgir is HUGE dude, I wouldn't be surprised if Shagrath made $150k+/year from the band alone. At New England Metalfest in 08 I couldn't even count the number of Dimmu Borgir shirts, out of the 8000~ people there probably 1/4 of them were sporting Dimmu shirts.

I mean, he's married to a model, and I doubt someone of that status would bother with anyone who wasn't raking in the dough in one way or another.

[QUOTE=Moon Flavor;17779006]seriously?

I'm pretty sure they're all still workin at mcdonalds

even the most popular of death metal bands don't make that much money it's a relatively small fan base either way

and stevie i agree but I dunno I love Prometheus it's such a ****ing weird awesome album. although weird isn't what you guys are typically looking for i suppose[/QUOTE]

I like weird. I listen to Brenoritvrezorkre.

I remember thinking some parts of Prometheus were cool but most of the time I was just thinking about how much the songs just didn't work.

i don't know...i remember reading a glen benton interview a few years back and he said that when he went on tour he'd make enough money to live on for a year, ie he had a pretty average salary for the US...whether dimmu borgir is bigger or not i suppose maybe it is, but along with that probably comes more staff on tours because of the bigger stage shows, more band members, etc.

You see a lot more Dimmu Borgir merch in Hot Topic than Deicide, so I'm sure they make a bit more off touring.

A friend of mine keeps telling me how amazing WITTR's [i]Two Hunters[/i] is. I gave it another try today, but I just can't really get past the first two tracks (into is great btw). I always get bored with them so quickly.

I felt that way until I saw them live, then they just kind of clicked with me. Black Cascade is their best though srsly.

Malevolent Grain is really good, probably their best release imo because it doesn't overstay its welcome at all.

I still need to get that.

Sounds like I should check those out.

Yeah I only really started listening to WITTR after seeing them

I has Malevolent Grain on vinyl and listen to it a lot more than any of their other stuff

+100 hipster points

:lol:

[I]Diadem of 12 stars[/I] is their best. [I]Black cascade[/I] is just plain boring.

Can't stop listening to Cirrhus. Band is so ****ing good.

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;17779844][I]Diadem of 12 stars[/I] is their best. [I]Black cascade[/I] is just plain boring.[/QUOTE]

Ron, please take the dicks out your ears gaywad. :o

yeah freal diadem is their worst and cascade is their best

[QUOTE=Moon Flavor;17778897]I would agree with Meshuggah and Ihsahn, but I think late Emperor has a lot more too it than you give it credit for. Sure, I could see it not being your style, but it's far from music based purely on technicality[/QUOTE]

I agree - Meshuggah does not deserve to be part of the conversation. Meshuggah are only technical in one aspect - time signature. Playing ONE note 13 times instead of 8 does not impress me.

Later Emperor is awesome imo, it's not black metal, but who cares?

The Eruption is an awesome song.

[QUOTE=xkeyboardmoshx;17779977]Later Emperor is awesome imo, it's not black metal, but who cares?

The Eruption is an awesome song.[/QUOTE]

this, later ****'s got so much depth, especially Prometheus

[QUOTE=Itwasthatwas;17779993]this, later ****'s got so much depth, especially Prometheus[/QUOTE]

Agreed - and [i]IX Equilibrium[/i] gets a bad rap - "Curse You All Men!" is a great song.

The version on Anthems is better.

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;17779844][I]Diadem of 12 stars[/I] is their best. [I]Black cascade[/I] is just plain boring.[/QUOTE]

agreed. everything of theirs except diadem is boring.