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Tyler 10-01-2007 08:28 PM

[QUOTE=masterchaos;15361223]Suicide eh? Not over a band that I cant help but laugh at every time I listen...I guess I did almost die from laughter so thats a possibilty. Maybe the label scout killed himself after realizing he [I]actually[/I] got them signed.[/QUOTE]

Or maybe Jacob Bannon is reaping in the benefits running his own label, designing cover art, making art of his own and writing highly acclaimed music.

LifeInABox 10-01-2007 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=NemesisDivina;15361319]yes, you did in fact give me Petitioning the Empty Sky.[/QUOTE]

Yet you like NH more?

Equus 10-01-2007 08:36 PM

petitioning is their only album worth listening to

Tyler 10-01-2007 08:37 PM

Jane Doe is best for this guy

masterchaos 10-01-2007 09:36 PM

I dont find anything listenable about it. For about 30 seconds on each song theres a pretty cool passage or riff, but then the rest of it comes in and everyone is trying to be louder than the other.

And how the vocalist can be considered anything but horrible is beyond me

Niflheim did you kill yourself or what? Just curious if I should obey you :rolleyes:

Tyler 10-01-2007 09:39 PM

Will you shut the **** up until you get a real argument?

masterchaos 10-01-2007 10:15 PM

How is that not real? Thats the impression I get from their "music". You havent argued how they're better than what I think so there really isnt one.

Why dont you tell me what makes them so appealing to you.

Tyler 10-01-2007 10:16 PM

All you're saying is "oh they're so noisy and loud and jacob bannon is horrible"

i am the robots 10-01-2007 10:24 PM

I know you were targetting Tyler, but I find Converge extremely enjoyable for a number of reasons, mostly emotional connection, lyrical content, their creativity, and their catchiness.

And I want to know what's so "noisy" about this:
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wd0jVjChLwk[/url]

masterchaos 10-01-2007 10:25 PM

I dont see what is so great about "YAYAYA!! YAYA!! YA!! YA!! YAAAAAAA!!!!"?

What sort of talent does it take to just scream into a microphone? I dont feel that yelling incoherently counts as a form of musical talent. And noise (an unpleasing sound to the ear that can result in physical agony) is all that comes to mind when I hear the music...Minus the 30 seconds I spoke of before.

So anyways...Why do you like them? What makes you enjoy them?

Tyler 10-01-2007 10:27 PM

The fact that you think it's noise leads me to believe your ear is ridiculously untrained.

i am the robots 10-01-2007 10:30 PM

[QUOTE=masterchaos;15361970]I dont see what is so great about "YAYAYA!! YAYA!! YA!! YA!! YAAAAAAA!!!!"?[/QUOTE]

You're saying you can't make out any of his lyrics? Are you even paying attention?

I know he's a bit more incoherent than some, but wow.

masterchaos 10-01-2007 10:44 PM

I try to pick out the words but the sound of his voice doesnt help either. I like it when a vocalist actually makes an attempt to annunciate...Mikael Åkerfeldt is a vocalist, not Jake Bannon. My ears are perfectly fine.

Its like a paradox, how anal most of you are about music, yet enoy something like Converge...and you still havent said what you like about them.

John Fahey 10-01-2007 10:45 PM

i really enjoy the vocalist in the group Kill Switch Engage, fantastic chaps.

i am the robots 10-01-2007 10:50 PM

[QUOTE=masterchaos;15362044]I try to pick out the words but the sound of his voice doesnt help either. I like it when a vocalist actually makes an attempt to annunciate...Mikael Åkerfeldt is a vocalist, not Jake Bannon. My ears are perfectly fine.[/quote]
Can you understand Skinless' shitty *** singer?

[quote]Its like a paradox, how anal most of you are about music, yet enoy something like Converge...and you still havent said what you like about them.[/QUOTE]
Did you ignore my post addressing this sir?

[QUOTE=John Fahey;15362052]i really enjoy the vocalist in the group Kill Switch Engage, fantastic chaps.[/QUOTE]
Howard or Jesse?

John Fahey 10-01-2007 10:52 PM

the black gentlemen that does the gospel vocals is utterly fantastic. do you think perhaps i could do a recording with the ol' chap?

Tyler 10-01-2007 10:53 PM

[QUOTE]Its like a paradox, how anal most of you are about music, yet enoy something like Converge...and you still havent said what you like about them.[/QUOTE]
The perfect blend of rage, technicality and passion. Their music serves as an excellent catharsis and can be taken on many levels. Jacob Bannon's vocals are as earnest as any, and the "rarara" of their later albums perfectly cohesive with the ferocious drumming and dissonant guitars. They've evolved beyond "hardcore kids with rehashed slayer riffs" into a venerable powerhouse, seemlessly blending metal and hardcore without sounding like they belong to either.

masterchaos 10-01-2007 10:59 PM

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15361963]I enjoy for a number of reasons, mostly emotional connection, etc

And I want to know what's so "noisy" about this:
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wd0jVjChLwk[/url][/QUOTE]

No actually I didnt see this, but I was talking to Cocaine to begin with. It touches you emotionally and right on, good for you I can respect that.

What was so noisey about it? Well min. 1:08 to about 1:40 was extremely noisey for me...The constant b-movie screeching and dissonance of the notes is just too much. The opening wasnt too bad but the second the vocals kick in its over. More isnt always better

edit to Coke: Thank you for finally stating your full opinion. I still disagree with you 200% but its whatever.

Tyler 10-01-2007 11:00 PM

The vocals are amazing.

1:08-1:40 is groovy as **** too, and the bit after is gnarly. you're crazy.

masterchaos 10-01-2007 11:09 PM

I'll be crazy then

i am the robots 10-02-2007 01:16 AM

I can see the breakdown at like one minute as being "noisey" but how is the clean bit after that noisy?

Like, 1:18-1:40.

Pete 10-02-2007 05:27 AM

so is converge an acquired taste, or a band that you either love or hate the first time around? i seriously dont remember how i felt about them to begin with (given that i adore them now)

i am the robots 10-02-2007 05:32 AM

First time I heard them I was blown away.

Concubine 10-02-2007 06:10 AM

more liek wtf this ain't bring me the horizon

i am the robots 10-02-2007 06:12 AM

but the first time i heard dat band wuz last spring n i waz into converge way b4 that

:confused:

RunAmokRampant 10-02-2007 06:34 AM

Man, the opening two songs for Jane Doe is what I heard first. Best introductory songs for a band ever.

And Jacob Bannon uses his voice as a textual instrument and fits with the music perfectly. I suggest you listen to the song Jane Doe when Bannon sings clean; it melds perfectly for the music sonically and thematically.

jrowa001 10-02-2007 06:36 AM

i hated converge the first time i heard them (You Fail Me), then i grew to love them after listening to Jane Doe

i am the robots 10-02-2007 06:39 AM

First Converge album I heard was Unloved And Weeded Out, so Downpour was my introduction, and still is my favorite Converge song, well tied with Orphaned and Heaven In Her Arms.

Concubine 10-02-2007 06:40 AM

Conduit is their best song

RunAmokRampant 10-02-2007 06:44 AM

It's good but for some reason I really love Drop Out. It's from my least favourite album but dang its cool.

Pete 10-02-2007 06:54 AM

converge is, unfortunately, one of those bands i've gotten into purely by downloading their albums, so i never learned the names of their songs, so i always feel left out when people namedrop, but then i listen to the songs in question and i'm like "fück yeah"

RunAmokRampant 10-02-2007 06:56 AM

The one I'm talking about the the 4th track from You Fail Me.

Pete 10-02-2007 07:48 AM

fück yeah

RetiredAt21 10-02-2007 08:57 AM

[QUOTE=Concubine;15363008]Conduit is their best song[/QUOTE]

Definitely.

bleep_bloop 10-02-2007 09:16 AM

when i first heard converge i was just like 'wtf is this atonal pile of ****'

masterchaos 10-02-2007 12:31 PM

I still think that after a 100 listens.

Pete 10-02-2007 12:49 PM

dont bother, everyone doesnt have to like everything

just dont bitch more about them =/

Equus 10-02-2007 12:54 PM

best converge song is either dead, farewell note to this city, or color me blood red

RetiredAt21 10-02-2007 01:04 PM

If you call yourself a fan of metalcore but you don't like Converge, then you are obviously ****ing retarded.

Tyler 10-02-2007 01:09 PM

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;15363750]If you call yourself a fan of metalcore but you don't like Converge, then you are obviously ****ing retarded.[/QUOTE]

u dont like fused togther in rvolving doors R U MENTALLY CHALLENGED?!


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