I was basically lookin for the same as you, i wanted either new hats or a crash i went for the hats because i can see them making the biggest contribution to my kit at the moment.
I was looking for versatile hats also and after a lot of looking and thinking i went with new beats (not brilliant). Just waiting on them now, I'll have them by the end of the month, it's killing me!

okay guys, need help with a ride i dont see much of at stores

im thinkin around 18"-20", super sizzly and washy

loud bell

did i mention i need the sizzle! fairly..this cant make any sense..dark and cutting? >.<

[QUOTE=aznriceball]okay guys, need help with a ride i dont see much of at stores

im thinkin around 18"-20", super sizzly and washy

loud bell

did i mention i need the sizzle! fairly..this cant make any sense..dark and cutting? >.<[/QUOTE]

well. it may not help but the 2oo2 rides are wasssshhhy. alot. the bell is pretty good. but not too cutting.

i saw a drummer with a 16" bass, a 13" BP, a timbale and a set of bongos with new beats/a wuhan splash and a super sizzly cutting ride. i lfell in love with the sound, and im sure it was 95% true since i was about 12ft from the 'stage', which was outdoors and very minimally mic'd.

okay, so im thinkin HHX or wuhan trad? id definitely need soundclips on that wuhan bell though

HHX groove. =)

What do you guys think about Fast Crashes? I was thinking of getting one, but the bloke at the shop said they werent that good. Any thoughs?

a or a custom? the a customs are beautifully shimmery, but have less volume then the othe a customs. the As are great, they're just the old (paper?)thins renamed

Aye the A Customs are paper thin. I love my K Custom fast crash

Used 14" NewBeat hihats at Massmusic.net clearance section for $179 USD !!!!

15 A Fast Crash is Sex.

AznRiceBall. 19 Armand Ride?

Azn, get the Armand Ride. That thing is beautiful. I love the sound it gives.

I loved the sizzle on the Zildjian K left side ride, I'm pretty sure it was custom...but it had a SWEET sizzle, just don't know if it'd cut enough. Just look for something that looks pretty fuc[B]k[/B]ed up in color :)

Also, the Mel Lewis Istanbul ride has a great sizzle!

[QUOTE=Tim]get some hats. dont get stage hats..those might be a tad too bright for your liking since you dont want bright. plosions are awesome crashes i have an 18.[/QUOTE]
What about Paragon hats? I've tried them out, and they seem a little more versatile than the stage hats.

Also, would HHX Groove Hats be any good for the type of music I listed earlier?

Depends, do you like groovin'?

Of course. I do play some prog metal stuff (Dream Theater, LTE, Tool, etc.) though, so would they work alright for that too?

could you describe the hhx groove ride, i have nowhere to try it, but hear all these good things about it.

Opinions of the aax splash (10")

[QUOTE=the_pure_drummer]Opinions of the aax splash (10")[/QUOTE]
Its a good splash, try to hear it in the store and compare it to other things. AA 10" is also a good splash. all about preference, id prolly take the AA splash but whatever.

Alright, two quick questions:

What do you guys know about UFIP cymbals? Price? Quality? Lines that suck?

And same goes for Paiste.

[QUOTE=derryk]Alright, two quick questions:

What do you guys know about UFIP cymbals? Price? Quality? Lines that suck?

And same goes for Paiste.[/QUOTE]

I can only go on Paiste. I think they are extreemly good quality. However their price is premium and above that of Zildjian and Sabian although they provide a more unique sounds.

Lines that suck? Depends. All their lines are good for their price range tbh. PST's are the worst I beleive. Lines to check out are the 2oo2's and Signatures. I have a 16" Signature Power Crash and love it.

Yeah, I hear they're pretty expensive. I've only found one place that sells them too.. so that probably won't help. Thanks bud.

Anyone for UFIP?

wich, dont think on price:
20" 2002 classic china
20" wuhan china?

Erm, this isn't really looking for a cymbal ... but I didn't want to start a new thread just to ask a tiny question.

Is [URL=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Istanbul-20-Ride-Cymbal-Mehmet-Sultan-Series_W0QQitemZ7413255004QQcategoryZ10174QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem]This[/URL] a good buy for like 100 quid?

im looking for a ride,I'll be using this ride for mainly most types of rock, but it needs to be versatile. w/ great stick definition (not too much) with a defined warm sounding bell, (can hear at live performances) and no overtones, i mean just a little ..ty

im listening to zildjian cymbal clips and i fell inlove wit 22" A medium ride. is that sound accurate??? because in store theres only 20" A med ride and i dunt like the sound it gives...

[QUOTE=Collis]Erm, this isn't really looking for a cymbal ... but I didn't want to start a new thread just to ask a tiny question.

Is [URL=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Istanbul-20-Ride-Cymbal-Mehmet-Sultan-Series_W0QQitemZ7413255004QQcategoryZ10174QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem]This[/URL] a good buy for like 100 quid?[/QUOTE]


well, i don't know what 100 quid is in USD, but that is a damned fine ride

[quote=Collis]Erm, this isn't really looking for a cymbal ... but I didn't want to start a new thread just to ask a tiny question.

Is [URL="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Istanbul-20-Ride-Cymbal-Mehmet-Sultan-Series_W0QQitemZ7413255004QQcategoryZ10174QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]This[/URL] a good buy for like 100 quid?[/quote]

YES

Also to whoever said PST's are the worst Paistes. 101 Brass??

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]YES

Also to whoever said PST's are the worst Paistes. 101 Brass??[/QUOTE]


SSHHHH! we don't speak of the 101s

[QUOTE=HeLLmO]well, i don't know what 100 quid is in USD, but that is a damned fine ride[/QUOTE]

I would say that is about $190 (Don't count me on it), but as seen as I currently have a ZBT ride (Ok it was stock, I didn't buy it :p ) I am deffo gonna go for that ... just hope I win :mad:

I just picked up an 18 inch vault crash. I'm looking for a 16 inch crash that will mix well with it, anyone have any suggestions?

[QUOTE=enishi]im looking for a ride,I'll be using this ride for mainly most types of rock, but it needs to be versatile. w/ great stick definition (not too much) with a defined warm sounding bell, (can hear at live performances) and no overtones, i mean just a little ..ty[/QUOTE]

22" Hand Hammered Rock Ride

[QUOTE=Diego]22" Hand Hammered Rock Ride[/QUOTE]

thanks,oso:chug:
ye i think that too, but i narrowed it down for sum rides.
20" K heavy
22" A med ride
22" HH rock ride
so? cant decide right now.
what would be the most versatile?

HH. Easily.

^yea, pretty much

So im looking for another crash to go along with my current setup and i have an idea but im open to some more suggestions. my current cymbal setup is:

18inch AAXplosion Crash
18inch AA medium thin crash
18inch AA chinese
16inch AAX stage crash
14inch AAX stage hats

Im getting the AA raw bell dry ride soon too and ive already picked that out.

Im thinking of maybe an 18inch Vault crash to go along with it. preferabbly sabian since its way cheaper here. 18 inch crash only. thin-mediumthin only also. thanks.

I am looking for some new cymbals. I'm getting a summer job and I just want to know what to save for. We play hard rock, classic rock, and metal.

I want a crash that sounds kind of like John Bonham's, but I can't afford 2oo2 stuff. I'm in more of a Sabian AA price range. I will probably be using this as my main, and maybe my only crash for now, so it should be kind of versatile.

I would like a dry sounding, ride with lots of stick definition. Almost clicky if you know what I mean. Again, remember my price range.

For my hi-hats, I want some loud ones that can cut through in metal. I like sizzly sounding ones. These should be versatile too I guess.

I appreciate any help guys.

[QUOTE=Tim]So im looking for another crash to go along with my current setup and i have an idea but im open to some more suggestions. my current cymbal setup is:

18inch AAXplosion Crash
18inch AA medium thin crash
18inch AA chinese
16inch AAX stage crash
14inch AAX stage hats

Im getting the AA raw bell dry ride soon too and ive already picked that out.

Im thinking of maybe an 18inch Vault crash to go along with it. preferabbly sabian since its way cheaper here. 18 inch crash only. thin-mediumthin only also. thanks.[/QUOTE]


18" HHX Stage/Studio Crash

freebyrd you sound like ur going for the bonham sound all around. if you want that dont cut expenses, save. giant beats.

15"soundedge high hats, or giant beat hi hats
18" medium crash, or giant beat
24" 2002 ride, or giant beat
20"medium crash, or giant beat.

he used giant beats earlier on. the 2002's

what is the equivalent of 22" HH rock ride to zildjian??
which is more versatile?