[QUOTE=witchxrapist;18374828]idk how krallice or altar of plagues wouldn't be black metal....

yeah, which is freaking retarded

look at how you defined a 'post' genre, and how most people do, myself included

post punk isnt punk influenced post rock, post hardcore isn't hardcore influenced post rock, nah mean?[/QUOTE]

the word post in reference to music literally means 'using the conventions of [genre] to create something that isn't wholly [genre]'. post rock has nothing to do with post punk, just like post metal has nothing to do with post hardcore. "post" in itself isn't a 'sound' or 'style'

what about depressive black metal? raw black metal? It's all under the BM banner but if you want to describe a bands sound that is what you use. Same with atmospheric and post-bm

atmospheric is retarded, every piece of music in the world ever created no matter how simple or bad creates an atmosphere to some degree

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;18374836]the word post in reference to music literally means 'using the conventions of [genre] to create something that isn't wholly [genre]'. post rock has nothing to do with post punk, just like post metal has nothing to do with post hardcore. "post" in itself isn't a 'sound' or 'style'[/QUOTE]

i know

which is why i dont get the term post metal

just seems like metallic sounding post rock

there are hundreds of post metal bands that sound nothing like post rock

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;18374838]atmospheric is retarded, every piece of music in the world ever created no matter how simple or bad creates an atmosphere to some degree[/QUOTE]

no its not, atmospheric bm focuses on building the atmosphere. You are telling me you don't see a difference in style? Song length and pacing are totally different and focused on being immersive instead of just straight forward aggressive black metal.

[QUOTE=Bleekill;18374846]no its not, atmospheric bm focuses on building the atmosphere. You are telling me you don't see a difference in style? Song length and pacing are totally different and focused on being immersive instead of just straight forward aggressive black metal.[/QUOTE]

any band you consider atmospheric bm could just as easily be considered post black, symphonic black, depressive black, whatever.

it's all semantics really, i'm just trying to say that post black metal is a perfectly valid title

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;18374845]there are hundreds of post metal bands that sound nothing like post rock[/QUOTE]

ya im kina a post metal noobz

[QUOTE=Bleekill;18374846]no its not, atmospheric bm focuses on building the atmosphere. You are telling me you don't see a difference in style? Song length and pacing are totally different and focused on being immersive instead of just straight forward aggressive black metal.[/QUOTE]

ambient BM might be a better description

envy call themselves ambient screamo or used to when i was on myspayz

listening to WITTR for the first time in like a year


is sort of upsetting because the vocalist has an amazing set of pipes


they just need to learn how to make a song go somewhere. Sort of boring

I like their first and third albums. Don't like Two Hunters.

i like two hunters :)

i love all their albums. got a special place in my heart for malevolent grain.

2 hunters is all i really care for

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;18374922]i love all their albums. got a special place in my heart for malevolent grain.[/QUOTE]

that's an odd choice

Two Hunters is my fave

same

[QUOTE=Nepenthe;18374922]i love all their albums. got a special place in my heart for malevolent grain.[/QUOTE]

hi5!!!

havent listened to WITTR in forever, although 2 hunters is solid

Total hipster shit band.

So sick of hearing about them.

barely anyone talks about them in here anymore, get over it or give us something else to talk about

also i dont see how it's hipster shit. hippie shit maybe.

listening to Mayhem - [I]Deathcrush[/I]

such good release

[QUOTE=Tyler;18374964]that's an odd choice[/QUOTE]

i think it's probably the most pure mix of black metal and shoegaze there is, without just being one with influences from the other

[QUOTE=Tyler;18375073]barely anyone talks about them in here anymore, get over it or give us something else to talk about

also i dont see how it's hipster shit. hippie shit maybe.[/QUOTE]

u mad?

yeah obviously im furious

[QUOTE=FatalEnergy;18375070]Total hipster shit band.[/quote]
you're just pissy kids who write good music caught on to black metal

only thing i like by them is diadem :c

fell voices, leech and ash borer are the only "cascadian bm" bands that have ever done anything for me. boring, not atmospheric in the slightest, melodramatic yada yada ast was the worst thing ever yada yada

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;18375199]you're just pissy kids who write gay music caught on to black metal[/QUOTE]

Fixed

keep recycling and rehashing 20 year old riffs and ideas bro

As if WITTR is the most original thing ever.

Fatal Energy is butthurt his drummer realized Meinenwerfer sucked and joined Deafheaven.

Now he's lashing out on all the poseurs.

Single belt-wearers fuck off!

[QUOTE=FatalEnergy;18375216]As if WITTR is the most original thing ever.[/QUOTE]

so you have to use an extreme overexaggeration of something i never even said to have a retort

nice

You're gonna have to lift up your shirt, poseur patrol needs to count your belts.

we're gonna need to make sure that denim vest meets the state mandated amount of patches before we let you proceed into the basement show

Orchid? nice try buddy, no screamo posers allowed in the black metal show.

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;18375217]Fatal Energy is butthurt his drummer realized Meinenwerfer sucked and joined Deafheaven.

Now he's lashing out on all the poseurs.[/QUOTE]

New drummer is far better. Worked out to our advantage.

Plus we'll probably be opening for Destroyer 666 and Destruction in a few months, so fuck it.

I'm glad I don't have to play with self indulgent post-whatever hipster crap.

Well that's cool then.

IDK why you're using self-indulgent to describe Deafheaven though, but okay.

I meant hipsters in general.