[QUOTE=willay]**** you. Do you really think AC/DC could have sould sixty million something albums if they wrote **** music? sixty million people worldwide can't be wrong. Face the facts: Angus young the greatest guitarist, stage presencewise, ever. Malcolm Young is the greatest Rhythym guitarist of all time, and is underrated. AC/DC has been able to stay together for thirty years, through the death of possibly the greatest frontman of all time, and release 17 albums. And I can say, without any doubt, that you have not listened to too many AC/DC songs. I know this because you say that all AC/DC songs sound the same. That's only true if you listen to a couple of them without paying attention.[/QUOTE]

Wow, Ac/dc sticks to old cliches. But Malcolm is very overrated. Anyone with a basic sense of rythm can play his music and anyone that knows 3 chords can write an ac/dc song. I agree Angus is good onstage but his guitar playing lacks anything creative.

Just so you know, I have heard ALOT of ac/dc. For about two years I was a HUGE ac/dc fan. I would not listen to anything else and anyone who didn't like them I viewed them as ignorant. I was a massive Ac/dc fanboy so don't try to say I don't know what I'm talking about.

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Here are the list of Ac/dc albums I own too:
Ac/dc Live (Double Disc)
Back In Black
High Voltage
Highway To Hell
Let There Be Rock (Also got the concert movie too[good stuff])
Razors Edge
Ball Breaker
If You Want Blood (Live)
Dirty Deeds


Also I own 12 ac/dc albums on original vinyl :)

^^How is "Let There Be Rock" the movie, I heard it's good.

I have AC/DC's entire studio discography, just a little fun fact.
[QUOTE=willay]**** you. Do you really think AC/DC could have sould sixty million something albums if they wrote **** music? sixty million people worldwide can't be wrong.[/QUOTE]
So what if they sold that much, like I already said N'SYNC and Backstreet Boys sold over 20 million during thier carrer, are those 20 million people right to? No, they just have an oppinion.
[QUOTE=Willay]Face the facts: Angus young the greatest guitarist, stage presencewise, ever. Malcolm Young is the greatest Rhythym guitarist of all time, and is underrated.[/QUOTE]
1.Angus has some good solos reuses them so much that he hardly has any originality anymore.
2.Anyone who has sence of time and a big amp can be just as good as Malcolm, it's not that hard.

[QUOTE=Willay]AC/DC has been able to stay together for thirty years, through the death of possibly the greatest frontman of all time, and release 17 albums. And I can say, without any doubt, that you have not listened to too many AC/DC songs. I know this because you say that all AC/DC songs sound the same. That's only true if you listen to a couple of them without paying attention.[/QUOTE]
Two of which are live albums but that's besides the point. Just wondering do you know what Angus said in a reply in a interview when the interviewer said, "You have 16 albums that sound the same, what do you think about that", he said, "we have 16 albums that sound the same". Just so you know he even thinks that he has albums that sound the same.

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]^^How is "Let There Be Rock" the movie, I heard it's good.[/QUOTE]

Oh, it is. Haha during one moment Angus breaks a string right before the solo (in Whole Lotta Rosie) so he runs backstage to get a new guitar and comes out. It's out of tune so he tunes it while playing the solo. It's just stuff like that that makes it seem like an up close concert, very personal.

P.S. This guy is right, he knows what Ac/dc is about. It's fine you liek them, just don't make stupid outragous claims plz

[QUOTE=thunderzstruck]You're an idiot, I'm sorry. But out of just about every music genre ac/dc is one of the worst songwriters. They never try anything new and stick to verse, chorus cliches.
Just because someone is popular doesn't mean it took talent to make. I could write a one note song with just hitting one note and maybe could make milliions. It's all about appeal. Ac/dc just happened to come along when everyone wanted stadium anthems or 4 minutes rock hits, that's it.

But whatever, I'm done.[/QUOTE]

You're a typical little kid who must resort to namecalling when proven wrong.

And if you honestly believe that crap about writing a "one note song" and "maybe could make millions"---then you're a bigger idiot than I'll ever be.

If selling 66 million records, selling out concert venues year after year, having millions of fans and being multi-millionaires doesn't take any talent---then quit talking trash and do it!

What're you waiting for? Write that one note song and let us know how well it sells. :p

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]The backstreet Boys, N'Sync, Britney Spears all sold millions upon millions of albums, and they have very very little talent. But maybe they have a talent to sell records, if that is a talent.

Which self-proclamed "music experts" are you talking about. Also if you know anything about AC/DC then you know that they don't make music to make money, They make music to do it for themselves they don't give a flying **** about being popular, they even said they were trying to go back in a way when they made during the Period betwen FTATR and TRE when they were huge stars.[/QUOTE]

As usual, you're unable to comprehend even the most basic things.

Performers like Britney Spears WRITE VIRTUALLY NONE of the songs they sing.

AC/DC created their OWN music. They didn't rely on music industry songwriters for their songs.

Which makes their success even MORE impressive---they did it on their own! Which PROVES yet again that they have songwriting talent.

And we're already well aware that they don't make music to make money or be popular, so how about telling us something we don't already know.

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]So what if they sold that much, like I already said N'SYNC and Backstreet Boys sold over 20 million during thier carrer, are those 20 million people right to? No, they just have an oppinion.[/QUOTE]

The huge difference being that N'Sync and the Backstreet Boys write very little if any of their own music, and the stuff they sing is MAINSTREAM POP---geared specifically to sell to the masses.

AC/DC plays blistering HARD ROCK, that's definitely not geared toward the masses.

Yet they STILL SOLD TENS OF MILLIONS more records than N'Sync and the BB's, which makes AC/DC's incredible career even MORE impressive.

The reason AC/DC is popular because it is simple and catchy, that is what the mainstream wants, simple as that.

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids]Hey Pennywise, about your question in the other thread.

Often the Australian versions of some AC/DC albums have slightly different track listings than the international versions.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, cheers. I think I've figuered it all out, except that I seem to have two non-live versions of Touch Too Much... One version goes for 8½ minutes, the other for 4½ minutes. Both definitely seem like they are studio-recorded. The 4½ minute one says is from Highway (I was given Highway as a bunch of mp3s by a friend), so I'm not sure where the 8½ minute song comes from, maybe it's a version of it from a different release.

[QUOTE=Music Man]The huge difference being that N'Sync and the Backstreet Boys write very little if any of their own music, and the stuff they sing is MAINSTREAM POP---geared specifically to sell to the masses.

AC/DC plays blistering HARD ROCK, that's definitely not geared toward the masses.

Yet they STILL SOLD TENS OF MILLIONS more records than N'Sync and the BB's, which makes AC/DC's incredible career even MORE impressive.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=rippa32]The reason AC/DC is popular because it is simple and catchy, that is what the mainstream wants, simple as that.[/QUOTE]


Amen brotha,
The masses just want big choruses and 4 minute songs. Ac/dc does that quite well.

all the popular bands whih you hear on the radio are rubbish but all people like is stupid catchy beats

[QUOTE=Music Man]What're you waiting for? Write that one note song and let us know how well it sells. :p[/QUOTE]

Tenacious D pulled it off quite well already :P

[QUOTE=Music Man][B]You're a typical little kid[/B] who must resort to namecalling when proven wrong.[/QUOTE]
I guess you do too.

[QUOTE=Music Man]As usual, you're unable to comprehend even the most basic things.
Performers like Britney Spears WRITE VIRTUALLY NONE of the songs they sing.
AC/DC created their OWN music. They didn't rely on music industry songwriters for their songs.
Which makes their success even MORE impressive---they did it on their own! Which PROVES yet again that they have songwriting talent.
And we're already well aware that they don't make music to make money or be popular, so how about telling us something we don't already know.[/QUOTE]
The argument was that AC/DC had a "talent to produce popular music" I was merely saying that Britney Spears had a that same "talent".

[QUOTE=Music Man]The huge difference being that N'Sync and the Backstreet Boys write very little if any of their own music, and the stuff they sing is MAINSTREAM POP---geared specifically to sell to the masses.
AC/DC plays blistering HARD ROCK, that's definitely not geared toward the masses.
Yet they STILL SOLD TENS OF MILLIONS more records than N'Sync and the BB's, which makes AC/DC's incredible career even MORE impressive.[/QUOTE]
Once again your argument was that AC/DC had a "talent to produce popular music" and I wwas pointing out that BB's and N'SYNC had the same "talent".

[QUOTE=thunderzstruck]Tenacious D pulled it off quite well already :P[/QUOTE]

C'mon, big guy. You could make a fortune, rather than wasting your time talking trash on this forum.

Admit it, dude. When it comes to music, you can't write ANYTHING that anybody would buy.

"The argument was that AC/DC had a "talent to produce popular music" I was merely saying that Britney Spears had a that same "talent"."--Drunken Viking

>>You once again prove your ignorance and inability to read. I already explained the enormous difference between AC/DC and Britney Spears--AC/DC WRITES VIRTUALLY ALL OF THEIR OWN MUSIC. Britney Spears can't write squat, she can only sing what others write.

>>So there's a HUGE difference between AC/DC, who can CREATE THEIR OWN MUSIC--and Britney Spears who hasn't created anything, she can only sing other people's songs.

>>So Britney DOESN'T have the "same talent" as AC/DC. You're proven wrong once again.


"Once again your argument was that AC/DC had a "talent to produce popular music" and I wwas pointing out that BB's and N'SYNC had the same "talent"."--Drunken Viking

>>You're proven wrong yet again. The BB's and N'Sync are in the same boat as Britney--they write virtually none of their own music. They can't create jack musically.

>>AC/DC creates their own music, and are the number five band ALL-TIME in record sales.

>>So the BB's and N'Sync DON'T have the same "talent".

>>Keep trying. According to the law of averages, you're bound to eventually get something right. But so far, you're batting ZERO in this thread.

[QUOTE=rippa32]The reason AC/DC is popular because it is simple and catchy, that is what the mainstream wants, simple as that.[/QUOTE]

AC/DC has never been a "mainstream" music band. "Mainstream" music is pop geared toward the masses. When AC/DC first came on the scene, disco groups like the Bee Gees were a good example of mainstream pop.

AC/DC's brand of raunchy hard rock was never considered "mainstream", back then or now. Most of the "mainstream" kids HATED groups like AC/DC.

Okat maybe mainstream was the wrong word, but you still get my point don't you?

wow, 91 pages....

Yea I know AC/DC are not overly talented, but they perform and put on a pretty good show. I mean,they played music cause they liked it, not because they thought they were amazing musicians.

I listen to certain songs because they help me get pumped up for hockey(plus other rock bands.) which is a big thing for me.

Thunderstruck, Back in Black, Hells Bells, Shoot to Thrill are good hockey tunes as well as some others but I can't remember them all.(I had all 19 albums, but I just ripped them and put my favorite ones on an MP3 CD)

AC/DC is good for beginner musicians since you should be able to play there songs. It helps you work on rythym and timing. Not too mention the little things it takes to be good.

Well, that's my first post and two centd worth...I guess.

I'm Australian so its basically a law over here to be an accadacca fan! when i started playing guitar i learnt ac/dc's riffs, simple yet hard hitting...less can be more ay?

[QUOTE=Tyrannicide]

AC/DC is good for beginner musicians since you should be able to play there songs. It helps you work on rythym and timing. Not too mention the little things it takes to be good.QUOTE]

great point. the first solo i ever learned was you shook me all night long.

I think that AC/DC are an excellent band, but the Bon Scott era is better than the Brian Johnson, who is by no means a bad singer. Angus Young does have a talent, his music may not be as elaborate as that of Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd etc. but he still has made a hell of a lot of money made from making excellent music, and like someone else said earlier if you had 17 and counting albums, then you would begin to repeat yourself too. Other than that, absolutely ace band! :thumb:

[QUOTE=Music Man]C'mon, big guy. You could make a fortune, rather than wasting your time talking trash on this forum.

Admit it, dude. When it comes to music, you can't write ANYTHING that anybody would buy.[/QUOTE]

umm i agree 100%. I am NOT good at writing music, you're right. But just because I can't doesn't mean I can't critisize other peoples..

Im loving this forum already, talking about my favorite band of all times.

I mean you dont have to like Angus or even malcom or hell even cliff you can even hate ACDC on the whole but 1 thing you cannot hate about them is... drum role please..........

Thunder. lalalalaaalaalaaalaaa Thunder Lalalalaaalaaalaaaalaaa

I was caught in the middle of a railroad track
I looked round and I knew there was no turning back
My mind raced, and I thought what could I do
And I knew there was no help, no help from you
Sound of the drums, beating in my heart
The thunder of guns, tore me apart
You've been, (anxious pause) thunderstruck

If that song doenst do it for you I dont know what will. I am a huge fan of ACDC and have been for a while, they are in my mind one of the pioneers to great rock and roll obviously with the help from the greats such as Rolling stones,Zepplin,Cream,Floyd etc.

Angus is a great soloist but not the best he just uses alot of cliche's and tricks and can play them at a mind bogling speed. Malcom well he is... Unique he can keep his timing good and still look awsome on stage. Oh and I by fat prefer Brian to Bon, Brian just fits the role. I have to agree that some of their songs sound SIMILAR but never the same their is always something that seperates the Simialer from same.

Anyway hope you guys will all be listening to thunderstruck and singing, along I know I am.

How long have you been an AC/DC fan FruitarGeek? Ill take a guess at not long.

[QUOTE=rippa32]How long have you been an AC/DC fan FruitarGeek? Ill take a guess at not long.[/QUOTE]

haha truth. Because honestly I have never met a huge fan of them (knows ALOT of their music and such) that like thunderstruck as their favorite song or Brian (in most cases.) Not saying it's bad, just seems like it

[QUOTE=Music Man]1. The Beatles
2. Led Zeppelin
3. The Eagles
4. Pink Floyd
5. AC/DC

Name ANY rock band in history that isn't on the above list, and AC/DC has sold more records than they have.

To be number five all-time, out of all the thousands of rock bands that have ever existed---is pretty impressive.

Anybody who thinks AC/DC has little or no songwriting talent is easily proven to be a fool.

If something requires little or no talent to do, that means virtually ANYBODY can do it.

So why don't the self-proclaimed music experts who bash AC/DC, go out and form their own band? Let's see if our so-called "experts" can sell 66 MILLION albums, sell out concert venues on a regular basis for years, and become multi-millionaires with millions of fans on several different continents!

If it doesn't take much talent, then LET'S SEE 'EM DO IT![/QUOTE]

Bon Jovi 100,000,000 :thumb:

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]^^How is "Let There Be Rock" the movie, I heard it's good.

I have AC/DC's entire studio discography, just a little fun fact.

So what if they sold that much, like I already said N'SYNC and Backstreet Boys sold over 20 million during thier carrer, are those 20 million people right to? No, they just have an oppinion.

1.Angus has some good solos reuses them so much that he hardly has any originality anymore.
2.Anyone who has sence of time and a big amp can be just as good as Malcolm, it's not that hard.


Two of which are live albums but that's besides the point. Just wondering do you know what Angus said in a reply in a interview when the interviewer said, "You have 16 albums that sound the same, what do you think about that", he said, "we have 16 albums that sound the same". Just so you know he even thinks that he has albums that sound the same.[/QUOTE]

ok....

1). fucl< up :)
2). did you know they were just having fun..just going out and playing.
3).you probably couldnt write mary had a little lamd.

fiinally

"You have 16 albums that sound the same, what do you think about that", he said, "we have 16 albums that sound the same". Just so you know he even thinks that he has albums that sound the same

when was something like that ever bad...every band sounds the same. Angus probably just doesn't give a shlt what sounds the same, his name will be ~REMEMBERED :smash:

He isnt the best musician in the world, but the blues is limited in some ways.
He's the best live player anyone would ever want to be. :smash:

[QUOTE=Chris_lpp]ok....

1). fucl< up :)
2). did you know they were just having fun..just going out and playing.
3).you probably couldnt write mary had a little lamd.

fiinally

"You have 16 albums that sound the same, what do you think about that", he said, "we have 16 albums that sound the same". Just so you know he even thinks that he has albums that sound the same

when was something like that ever bad...every band sounds the same. Angus probably just doesn't give a shlt what sounds the same, his name will be ~REMEMBERED :smash:

He isnt the best musician in the world, but the blues is limited in some ways.
He's the best live player anyone would ever want to be. :smash:[/QUOTE]
Had that arguement about the stage presence thing aswell.
THe argument was that he said that they didn't sound that same and I was pointing out that even Angus thinks they do.

Another question, do you even know what the fu[SIZE="2"]ck[/SIZE] any of the arguments were about, my guess is no so read the entire argument before you post.

[QUOTE]AC/DC plays blistering HARD ROCK, that's definitely not geared toward the masses.[/QUOTE]

Considering the success AC/DC has had, didn't you basically prove yourself wrong here? And I'm pretty sure you're a big Bee Gees fan, right?

AC/DC is pretty annoying, but their music doesn't bother me. It isn't good, but it isn't bad, either; it couldn't be more mediocre if it tried. But I do have something against a band that writes a song like "Have a Drink on Me" months after their popular lead singer drinks himself to death. It would be like Puffy doing a song about how awesome drive-by shootings are months after Biggie died.

[QUOTE]Had that arguement about the stage presence thing aswell.
THe argument was that he said that they didn't sound that same and I was pointing out that even Angus thinks they do.

Another question, do you even know what the **** any of the arguments were about, my guess is no so read the entire argument before you post.[/QUOTE]

Jesus christ, nobody gives a ****. Shut it with the whole arguement bull. Your arguements were babbling.

[QUOTE]But I do have something against a band that writes a song like "Have a Drink on Me" months after their popular lead singer drinks himself to death. It would be like Puffy doing a song about how awesome drive-by shootings are months after Biggie died.[/QUOTE]

To be fair, the whole album was devoted to Bon. If you look at the lyrics to "Have A Drink On Me", if anything their talking about Bons approach to drink.

They took a year out to come to terms with the death... and hit back in the best way possible. An album covered in black, devoted.

Haha, Ac\Dc has two versions. The Bon Scott version and the Brian Johnsons version. My opinion, is that they rocked so much harder with Bon Scott. The Bon Scott days were THE days for Ac\Dc. I mean sure, their classic album Back In Black was with Brian Johnson and don't get me wrong it's a GREAT album. But who's to say Highway to Heell isn't a classic album?...That is the best Ac\Dc album out there, and it's a pitty because the only songs people know off it, are the title track and Giirl's got Rythm. Ac\Dc can get repetitive. But anything with Bon Scott is gold.