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Kronos 09-18-2005 11:38 AM

I've got all their albums, and Reckoning Night is my fave by far. Second place for me would be Silence

The Dark Philosopher 09-18-2005 11:39 AM

[QUOTE=Laihoistheman]i really need to hear these guys i gotta pick up a CD of theres thats probally the best one to get right?[/QUOTE]
Reakoning Night is one of the best cds I own truly great.

The Dark Philosopher 09-18-2005 11:41 AM

Cant get into the old stuff to much like Strata.

Lord Abortion 09-18-2005 11:48 AM

I'm really liking SA's "the gun" at the moment, it's really catchy.

Thor 09-18-2005 11:49 AM

Just wondering, do SA write really cheesy lyrics?

Shattered_Future 09-18-2005 11:54 AM

Course...they're power metal. :p

Their lyrics have a fair amount of cheese to them.

The Dark Philosopher 09-18-2005 11:54 AM

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]Just wondering, do SA write really cheesy lyrics?[/QUOTE]
Not on Reakoning Night cant say about the others I dont have them.

Thor 09-18-2005 11:56 AM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Course...they're power metal. :p

Their lyrics have a fair amount of cheese to them.[/QUOTE]
Well I can stand the cheese factor for a while, but there are certain bands that just have waaaaayyy too much of it that I can't listen to it.

*cough* Rhapsody *cough*

The Dark Philosopher 09-18-2005 11:57 AM

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]Well I can stand the cheese factor for a while, but there are certain bands that just have waaaaayyy too much of it that I can't listen to it.

*cough* Rhapsody *cough*[/QUOTE]
Get Reakoning Night

Kronos 09-18-2005 12:03 PM

[QUOTE=The Dark Philosopher]Get Reakoning Night[/QUOTE]

Seconded and thirded :thumb:
No much (any) cheese in the lyrics on that

Thor 09-18-2005 12:08 PM

Thanks for the suggestions, guys.

The Dark Philosopher 09-18-2005 12:08 PM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]Seconded and thirded :thumb:
No much (any) cheese in the lyrics on that[/QUOTE]
Yes I dont there is any and It also throws off a darker vibe than their other albums.(from what Ive heard)

Kronos 09-18-2005 12:42 PM

[QUOTE=The Dark Philosopher]Yes I dont there is any and It also throws off a darker vibe than their other albums.(from what Ive heard)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the lyrics to Don't Say A Word are pretty chilling (my fave on the album) and also the whole album is more varied, plus Tony's voice seems to get ever better. I'm glad their latest album is my favourite; it's awful when bands you like's output gets worse and worse.....

The Dark Philosopher 09-18-2005 12:55 PM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]Yeah, the lyrics to Don't Say A Word are pretty chilling (my fave on the album) and also the whole album is more varied, plus Tony's voice seems to get ever better. I'm glad their latest album is my favourite; it's awful when bands you like's output gets worse and worse.....[/QUOTE]
Yea its nice to see a band keep evolving getting better and better hopefully their next album will be even better.

ExitWound 09-18-2005 01:06 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Course...they're power metal. :p

Their lyrics have a fair amount of cheese to them.[/QUOTE]
What does this actually mean? Are you comparing to 'popular' metal all whining about lost loves and teen angst stories of drugs and death? I prefer lyrics with a little more flare, uniqueness, and ingenuity to them, even if that means Dragons and Swords.

Lord Abortion 09-18-2005 01:07 PM

[QUOTE=ExitWound]What does this actually mean? Are you comparing to 'popular' metal all whining about lost loves and teen angst stories of drugs and death? I prefer lyrics with a little more flare, uniqueness, and ingenuity to them, even if that means Dragons and Swords.[/QUOTE]
What do you mean "even"? :p

Huber 09-18-2005 01:07 PM

[QUOTE=ExitWound]What does this actually mean? Are you comparing to 'popular' metal all whining about lost loves and teen angst stories of drugs and death? I prefer lyrics with a little more flare, uniqueness, and ingenuity to them, even if that means Dragons and Swords.[/QUOTE]

I don't think he meant anything against it.

Most of us here love our cheesy PM lyrics.

Shattered_Future 09-18-2005 01:26 PM

[QUOTE=ExitWound]What does this actually mean? Are you comparing to 'popular' metal all whining about lost loves and teen angst stories of drugs and death? I prefer lyrics with a little more flare, uniqueness, and ingenuity to them, even if that means Dragons and Swords.[/QUOTE]

No, I'm saying power metal generally has cheesy lyrics.

I never said there was anything wrong with that.

Arucard 09-18-2005 01:31 PM

Cheese is in the eye of the beholder, amirite?

Shattered_Future 09-18-2005 01:39 PM

Absolutely.

It's particularly funny when the bands take themselves seriously about it too...like many of today's black metal groups. :lol:

Kronos 09-18-2005 02:33 PM

I think many Power metal lyrics aren't really that cheesey, SA ones are pretty good, NW lyrics, are, IMO, virtually devoid of any, Stratovarius is prob. more guilty on that score, as are Hammerfall, but the bands with the worst, cheesiest lyrics are poppier, "hair metal" - type bands, like VH or, worse still, Kiss. I bloody hate lyrics that lamely tell me to "Rock all day, Roll all night" or say "These are crazy, crazy, crazy, nights!" then compound the insult to my intelligence by shouting "All right!" as the rhyme. That I really detest.
Not too much of that thoughtless, cop-out crap in PM

Lord Abortion 09-18-2005 02:35 PM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]I think many Power metal lyrics aren't really that cheesey, SA ones are pretty good, NW lyrics, are, IMO, virtually devoid of any, Stratovarius is prob. more guilty on that score, as are Hammerfall, but the bands with the worst, cheesiest lyrics are poppier, "hair metal" - type bands, like VH or, worse still, Kiss. I bloody hate lyrics that lamely tell me to "Rock all day, Roll all night" or say "These are crazy, crazy, crazy, nights!" then compound the insult to my intelligence by shouting "All right!" as the rhyme. That I really detest.
Not too much of that thoughtless, cop-out crap in PM[/QUOTE]
Exactly, I really hate Hair Metal...and AC/DC which fits in there well to me. Lyrically at least

NP-Iced earth- blessed are you (live)

Shattered_Future 09-18-2005 02:56 PM

I dunno, Nightwish has a few corny lines...

I know in Dead Gardens, there's something about an orc...

And Elvenpath has the oh so thoughtful line "He told me to keep the sauna warm for him"

Overall, though, Nightwish has some really great lyrics.

Iron Bars 09-19-2005 06:34 AM

Downloaded some of this Dungeon stuff you guys were talking about last week. I really like it. Are there albums widely avalable?

Kronos 09-19-2005 06:44 AM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]I dunno, Nightwish has a few corny lines...

I know in Dead Gardens, there's something about an orc...

And Elvenpath has the oh so thoughtful line "He told me to keep the sauna warm for him"

Overall, though, Nightwish has some really great lyrics.[/QUOTE]

I think the preceding line in Elvenpath is even better
"Introduced me to her old friend, Home-Gnome"
As you do.... :lol:

The Dark Philosopher 09-19-2005 10:14 AM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]I think many Power metal lyrics aren't really that cheesey, SA ones are pretty good, NW lyrics, are, IMO, virtually devoid of any, Stratovarius is prob. more guilty on that score, as are Hammerfall, but the bands with the worst, cheesiest lyrics are poppier, "hair metal" - type bands, like VH or, worse still, Kiss. I bloody hate lyrics that lamely tell me to "Rock all day, Roll all night" or say "These are crazy, crazy, crazy, nights!" then compound the insult to my intelligence by shouting "All right!" as the rhyme. That I really detest.
Not too much of that thoughtless, cop-out crap in PM[/QUOTE]
Agreed there is nothing more cheesy.

Lord Abortion 09-19-2005 12:47 PM

[QUOTE=Iron Bars]Downloaded some of this Dungeon stuff you guys were talking about last week. I really like it. Are there albums widely avalable?[/QUOTE]
Yes, all available from your good friends at amazon. :)

Shadows Within 09-19-2005 12:51 PM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]I think many Power metal lyrics aren't really that cheesey, SA ones are pretty good, NW lyrics, are, IMO, virtually devoid of any, Stratovarius is prob. more guilty on that score, as are Hammerfall, but the bands with the worst, cheesiest lyrics are poppier, "hair metal" - type bands, like VH or, worse still, Kiss. I bloody hate lyrics that lamely tell me to "Rock all day, Roll all night" or say "These are crazy, crazy, crazy, nights!" then compound the insult to my intelligence by shouting "All right!" as the rhyme. That I really detest.
Not too much of that thoughtless, cop-out crap in PM[/QUOTE]
listen to dream evil and 3 inches of blood those are the worst :p

Iron Bars 09-19-2005 03:23 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Yes, all available from your good friends at amazon. :)[/QUOTE]

Why o why didn't I think of that.

Shattered_Future 09-19-2005 03:26 PM

Amazon is evil...they still haven't sent me my Nightwish DVD. :evil:


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