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comptonassrobert 02-05-2006 12:53 AM

I like slipknot, as they were one of my gateway-metal bands. And although I hardly listen them anymore due to the 500+ new cds from different artists in the past years, I'll still pop in their S/T from time to time because I think it was a solid album. Prosthetics is an amazing song.

:)

Sleeper 02-05-2006 01:15 AM

Yes, Slipknot is a band that opened the door to other types of metal and music for me. I'm not as big of fan as i used to be, but they will always be a favorite of mine.

Drunken Viking 02-05-2006 01:23 AM

I know this was an old message but I have to get some things off my chest.
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Lack of Talent/Originality -

I don't think Slipknot are talented at all. I've heard people say "ooo, Mick really shreds". Go listen to some Jason Becker or something, and then try to tell me Mick can shred. I've looked at numerous Slipknot tabs and they all digust me. So many people also so Joey is really good at drums. I'm a drummer, and I hear nothing special from him. In fact I don't even think he's that great or original with his drumming. Also, there's the lyrics and song meanings. Most of Slipknot's songs are about depression and suicide, typical nu-metal style. It makes me sick[/QUOTE]
What do you mean not original? How many bands can you name have a drumming section, not just a drummer? The fact that Jason Becker can play his instrument better doesn't mean Mick sucks, just because John Myung is a better bassist then Ryan Martinie does that make him suck? NO! I rarely hear anyone say that Joey is amazing at drums, Almost everyone I know who is educated thinks that he is nothing special, and everyone on these boards thinks the same. And about the lyric thing, just because they talk about what they feel doesn't make them bad lyricists, it just makes you think that, but you and everyone are different people.


[QUOTE=]The Whole 9 Member Thing -

This actually makes me laugh. I find it really funny how Slipknot can have 9 members and play as poorly as they do. I can think of countless bands that sound better than slipknot and play with 5, 4 or even 3 members. I don't get why they need two percussionists, they don't add anything to the music. I saw Duality live on Leno and one of them hit a garbage can. Now that's talent. The whole sampler and DJ thing is stupid too. Jordan Rudess from Dream Theater does all of their samples and plays the keyboard like a god at the same time. Slipknot could have two members and be just about as good. I make better music by myself than Slipknot does with 9 people.
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I don't think there is a number nine in the group, I think the numbers stop at 8, but anyway every single member of Slipknot does his part, Clown the DJ and the other percusionest do their part, they help keep the beat in some songs, deliver backing vocals, and they get the crowd going at gigs. The band needs to feed off something live, and they just help. I highly dought that you can make better music then them, you proably can't scream or sing, and if you can you proably aren't profiecient at gutiar, drums, vocals, bass, lyrics.

[QUOTE=]Bad Influence -

Slipknot is typical whiny nu-metal. They are making kids more "depressed" then they already were by making them think life is so hard. I see tons of Slipknot fans that are all dressed in black with chains and spikes and make up. Goth kids make me angry. Suck it up and get a life. Listen to some real metal.[/QUOTE]Just because people want to dress in black or whatever doesn't mean they are goth. I wear black shirts and jeans almost every day and I am not goth. What don't you take your own advice and suck it up and learn to accept people for who they are, not what they wear. And I'm sure most of those kids listen to all types of metal, I listen to Black Metal, Death Metal, Grindcore, Rock, [U]and[/U] Slipknot.

[QUOTE=]Gimmick -

The MASKS. Wow, you don't want to be recognized in public, big deal. Pay the price for being famous. Maybe if they get rid of those silly costumes they can make some good music while they are at it.

Anyway, I don't want to go on much longer, the fact is Slipknot is bad for you.[/QUOTE]Yeah, cause we all know that the masks is what's making them all not up to your level of "real metal". The reason that Slipknot wears masks is because they feel that it should about the music, not about being recognized. And you saying Slipknot is bad for you is crap, just because you don't like them cause your to hardcore for them doesn't mean everyone is, lets face it your the kinda kid who only listens to brutal death metal and raw black metal.

Crysiss 02-05-2006 02:42 AM

Why you bringing up the mudvayne bassist man? lol

Drunken Viking 02-05-2006 03:10 PM

To make a point that because one guitarist is better then another doesn't mean the one that isn't as good sucks.

Crysiss 02-05-2006 07:58 PM

Oh i see, I thought that you were trying to refer to the slipknot bassist.

Drunken Viking 02-05-2006 11:10 PM

Nope, he made a point that because Jason Becker was better then Mick meant that Mick sucked, so I brought up that Myung is more talented then Martinie but that doesn't neccesarily mean that Martinie sucks to combat that.

Moses 02-05-2006 11:32 PM

Myung sounds like computer graphics.

Drunken Viking 02-05-2006 11:43 PM

Is that bad or good?

Moses 02-06-2006 12:36 AM

I don't know.

ghettoeddo 02-06-2006 12:41 AM

oh it's good.
it's GOOOOD.

Drunken Viking 02-06-2006 12:44 AM

I just thought of something, graphics don't make sounds, do they?

Moses 02-06-2006 12:45 AM

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]I just thought of something, graphics don't make sounds, do they?[/QUOTE]
Nope. But if I had to compare it to one thing, that's what it would sound like.

Drunken Viking 02-06-2006 12:50 AM

Ahh I see, I can't really hear his bass most of the time though.

Anyone else think it's odd we're talking about computers and John Myung in a Slipknot thread?

ghettoeddo 02-06-2006 02:06 AM

yea let's take it to the DT thread.

Leukeh 02-06-2006 03:55 AM

[quote=Drunken Viking]I don't think there is a number nine in the group, I think the numbers stop at 8[/quote]

I realize your all for Slipknot here, but I need to make a correction xD

The numbers do only reach 8, but they start at 0, to there [I]is[/I] 9 of them =P

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Anyway, Slipknot was the band that got me into metal. they were all I listened to for ages, just because I loved them so much. They are still my number 1 band, but I listen to other stuff now as well. Any sub-genre of metal is fine with me.

And I love Coreys voice. Amazing singing and screaming on his part.

It seems to me that all anyone can think of to knock Slipknot is that they wear masks (as if that effects what they sound like), they are talentless (talentless people would't be able to get a record deal) or that they aren't technical (so go listen to your technical music if thats all you want to listen to - Slipknot could be technical if they wanted to, but they don't want to make technical music)

They make music that appeals to some, and not to others.


Slipknot - Either loved or hated, but never ignored.

Drunken Viking 02-06-2006 04:46 PM

[QUOTE=Leukeh]I realize your all for Slipknot here, but I need to make a correction xD

The numbers do only reach 8, but they start at 0, to there [I]is[/I] 9 of them =P[/QUOTE]
I know that, I was just trying to be funney, didn't work out to well. Sarcasm doesn't translate to well into print ::rolleyes:

7stringsordeath 02-07-2006 02:20 PM

I think bands like slipknot add a severely needed dose of creativity to the stagnant realm of metal....I try to appreciate bands being different...not this same ol' prepackaged "normal" metal fluff....Slipknot, rock on!

Dethroned-Emperror88 02-08-2006 10:20 AM

ATTENTION ALL SLIPKNOT F A G G O T S

Slipknot... What a horrible horrible band. I mean not just from the standpoint that they suck balls musically but the fact that with each new album they get ****tier. Let me Explain:

Ok first off, there are 9 people in the band. Who the **** ever herd of 9 people in a ****ing band? Two drummers? and one who just bangs his head around for most of the time? Nobody is even a worthy musician I think they go by the "If we play loud and scream alot people wont realize we all suck" stance.

They have made three albums and havent advanced musically in any of them. They have still stayed the same screaming, ****ty band they have always been. The only thing close to musical talent in that band is the lead guitarist but still, any real metal guitarist could easily play any of there songs.

Second they are not respected by any of the metal community. I believe they have been around since the early 90's and there has never been a tribute or any one saying "I was really influenced by Slipknot" just a bunch of F A G G O T Nu Metal kids saying how metal they are. THEY ARE NOT ****ING METAL. They are complete ****. But since I am a nice person I will leave you with some examples of good solid metal:

Burzum- Burzum/Aske (EP)
Mayhem- Deathcrush
DarkThrone- A blaze in the Northern Sky
Bathory- Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Abigor- Supreme Immortal Art
Graveland-Celtic Winter

Enjoy.

TemperamentalGoat 02-08-2006 06:12 PM

Median age of people posting in this thread: 14

christ. No one cares about your black metal bands anyway. Stop listening to music because you think it's "cool" or "hardcore", listen to what you like. There is merit to Slipknot, strange but true. They aren't revolutionary or highly respectable; far from it. They just write decent songs here and there and there is no reason to toss that aside because the "metal community" disrespects them.

Anyway, does anyone still want to hear the re-tooling of Vermillion 2 on the underworld OST? I'll upload it again if anyone wants. It's consistently always been on my playlist for the past few weeks, it's just one hell of an improvement over the original. The instrumentals and loud/soft dynamics are, well, epic.

Sph 02-09-2006 05:24 AM

[QUOTE=Dethroned-Emperror88]THEY ARE NOT ****ING METAL.[/QUOTE]
I actually somewhat respected your opinion, despite calling the majority of this threads posters 'fa[COLOR="Black"]g[/COLOR]gots', until I read this. If you do not have the mental capacity to accept the fact that Slipknot [I]are[/I] metal, then take your fu[COLOR="Black"]c[/COLOR]ked up logic elsewhere.
[QUOTE]Burzum- Burzum/Aske (EP)
Mayhem- Deathcrush
DarkThrone- A blaze in the Northern Sky
Bathory- Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Abigor- Supreme Immortal Art
Graveland-Celtic Winter[/QUOTE]
I find humorous that Slipknot haters always attempt to 'educate' us on 'real' metal bands. Why the [I]f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ck[/I] do you assume we don't already listen to those bands? I, and i'm sure I speak for many other Slipknot fans, love Burzum, Mayhem and Bathory.

If you dislike Slipknot gtfo of the thread. Pretty simple, huh?
[QUOTE=TempermentalGoat]
Anyway, does anyone still want to hear the re-tooling of Vermillion 2 on the underworld OST? I'll upload it again if anyone wants. It's consistently always been on my playlist for the past few weeks, it's just one hell of an improvement over the original. The instrumentals and loud/soft dynamics are, well, epic.[/QUOTE]
I'd love to hear it, if it's not too much trouble.

[email]boneseekr@gmail.com[/email]

Leukeh 02-09-2006 06:23 AM

Nice work Josh :lol:
Although, you forgot to point out to this douche, that Slipknot has made 5 albums, not 3. Maybe he should get his basic facts right before stating his unwelcome opinion. Also, maybe he should get a life, instead of pissing people off by insulting bands people like. And he should also get his head out of his arse.
[B]
TempermentalGoat: [/B]Yes please =) [EMAIL="leukeh@gmail.com"]leukeh@gmail.com[/EMAIL]

Sph 02-09-2006 06:40 AM

Welcome to the party. :p

Also...
[QUOTE]They have still stayed the same screaming, ****ty band they have always been.[/QUOTE]
Corey doesn't always scream. He does actually have a nice singing voice. Not perfect, but effective.

vocman 02-09-2006 06:54 AM

[QUOTE=Leukeh]
Slipknot has made 5 albums, not 3. Maybe he should get his basic facts right before stating his unwelcome opinion. Also, maybe he should get a life, instead of pissing people off by insulting bands people like. And he should also get his head out of his arse.
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I know of mate feed kill repeat, S/T, Iowa and Vol 3, but what is the fifth?

I don't listen to slipknot very often anymore, but, like a lot of posters here, Slipknot got me into 'heavier','extremer' music, and that is IMO the main reason why bands like slipknot should exist; without gateway-bands Metal can be a bit inaccessible, I think.

Sph 02-09-2006 07:14 AM

9.0: Live was released not long ago.

I don't listen to Slipknot much either, these days. :-\

UpperDecker 02-09-2006 07:29 AM

[QUOTE=Huber]
Calling the masks a gimmick is a little unfair. You do not know whether they put them on in the first place to gain more fans or not. But I bet I do that they were thinking it'd be more entertaining, and make things a little different then a bunch of normal looking metal heads headbanging like almost any other metal band.QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure they put the masks on to copy off of Mushroomheads idea. Alot of the masks were even similar to Mushroomheads masks when they first started.

Huber 02-09-2006 08:44 AM

[QUOTE=Dethroned-Emperror88]ATTENTION ALL SLIPKNOT F A G G O T S

Slipknot... What a horrible horrible band. I mean not just from the standpoint that they suck balls musically but the fact that with each new album they get ****tier. Let me Explain:

Ok first off, there are 9 people in the band. Who the **** ever herd of 9 people in a ****ing band? Two drummers? and one who just bangs his head around for most of the time? Nobody is even a worthy musician I think they go by the "If we play loud and scream alot people wont realize we all suck" stance.

They have made three albums and havent advanced musically in any of them. They have still stayed the same screaming, ****ty band they have always been. The only thing close to musical talent in that band is the lead guitarist but still, any real metal guitarist could easily play any of there songs.

Second they are not respected by any of the metal community. I believe they have been around since the early 90's and there has never been a tribute or any one saying "I was really influenced by Slipknot" just a bunch of F A G G O T Nu Metal kids saying how metal they are. THEY ARE NOT ****ING METAL. They are complete ****. But since I am a nice person I will leave you with some examples of good solid metal:

Burzum- Burzum/Aske (EP)
Mayhem- Deathcrush
DarkThrone- A blaze in the Northern Sky
Bathory- Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Abigor- Supreme Immortal Art
Graveland-Celtic Winter

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]

Everyone like you should die. I own everyone of those albums except the Graveland one. Don't act like your something special because you don't like Slipknot.

Drunken Viking 02-09-2006 04:38 PM

Oh but he is, he is the first guy I've ever heard say he disliked Slipknot and started to bash them because they have 9 people and scream, his dick must be like massive or something.

A_Guy 02-09-2006 06:56 PM

[QUOTE]ATTENTION ALL SLIPKNOT F A G G O T S

Slipknot... What a horrible horrible band. I mean not just from the standpoint that they suck balls musically but the fact that with each new album they get ****tier. Let me Explain:

Ok first off, there are 9 people in the band. Who the **** ever herd of 9 people in a ****ing band? Two drummers? and one who just bangs his head around for most of the time? Nobody is even a worthy musician I think they go by the "If we play loud and scream alot people wont realize we all suck" stance.

They have made three albums and havent advanced musically in any of them. They have still stayed the same screaming, ****ty band they have always been. The only thing close to musical talent in that band is the lead guitarist but still, any real metal guitarist could easily play any of there songs.

Second they are not respected by any of the metal community. I believe they have been around since the early 90's and there has never been a tribute or any one saying "I was really influenced by Slipknot" just a bunch of F A G G O T Nu Metal kids saying how metal they are. THEY ARE NOT ****ING METAL. They are complete ****. But since I am a nice person I will leave you with some examples of good solid metal:

Burzum- Burzum/Aske (EP)
Mayhem- Deathcrush
DarkThrone- A blaze in the Northern Sky
Bathory- Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Abigor- Supreme Immortal Art
Graveland-Celtic Winter

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
You know, I don't like Sipknot myself, but that was just dumb. Music is subjective, it's opinion. There is no "good" or "bad" music. I don't see why having alot of people in band is a bad thing, in fact, it seems a good way to make new interesting sounds. Also, about not being respected in the metal community, who cares? Nobody should listen to music just because other people do. Please grow up.

Banshee 02-09-2006 07:31 PM

Joey Jordison is a bad drummer.


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