[QUOTE]What kind of cymbals are the BEST: Sabian, Zildjian, or Paiste?[/QUOTE]

no one brand is better than the other. its all down to personal taste really. i dont really care what brand of cymbals or drums i play, as long as they sound nice it doesnt matter.

^ya what he said^pesonally I prefer PAiste and Meinl

[QUOTE=DrummerAoA]What kind of cymbals are the BEST: Sabian, Zildjian, or Paiste?[/QUOTE]
This is getting annoying now. Do your research.

I agree with an original name on this however.

[QUOTE=groomits]Z custom

and its [B]HI[/B] hat[/QUOTE]

Sorry about that....(High... lol what was I thinking?) :)

you dont have to be sorry lol, its just a little error that nobody cares about... but me

Well Bobby I'm looking for a new china cymbal. It will either be an 18" or a 20", I want a swelling, trashy sound, with a pitch that will cut through the mix well. It doesn't have to have a long decay, a medium decay would be better, but it has to be really applicable for riding, which I'm sure an 18" or 20" china would be. Preferrably Zildjan because that's what the rest of my cymbals are, and preferably traditional finish, to match the rest, though brilliant finish doesn't mean I wouldn't get it. The models that stick out to me most are the A Zildjian China High, A Zildjian China Low, and Oriental Classic China.

The A Custom China might surprise you. Instant, bright attack, fairly short decay, high pitched, maybe not as trashy though. Consider trying one.

I like the 20" Oriental china "trash" but as you said you don't want it to stand out...

anyways Is it just me but I was trying a solar china And it didn't actually sound bad.It was not so much Trashy but had some soud characteristics of a gong....

[quote]The models that stick out to me most are the A Zildjian China High, A Zildjian China Low, and Oriental Classic China.[/quote]

The China Low came to mind before i even seen that sentence,...so thats an obvious choice....maybe the China High in a 20"...

18" and 20" oriental china trash/classic china. 18" A china High and 18" and 20" A custom chinas are good. Check out some K's and K customs while your there, you might be surpirsed.

I have created the most bitchen hit-hat ever. I've taken an 18" china and a 14" hi-hat and have made. The TRASH HAT! Dun dun dun. Surprisingly, it sounds bitchen.

i want to get a 16" crash, 14" hihats, and a 21ish" ride i play classic rock, and rock. i dont want anything too heavy or too light.

whats the difference between a crash and a crash/ride?

thanks

[QUOTE]i want to get a 16" crash, 14" hihats, and a 21ish" ride i play classic rock, and rock. i dont want anything too heavy or too light.[/QUOTE]look into some paiste 2002 they're made for that kind of music or some AA Mediums/Medium-thin
or A Zildjian Medium/medium -thin[QUOTE]whats the difference between a crash and a crash/ride?[/QUOTE] A crash has more attack, and as rides are usually pingy when you combine the both you get something like a ride but with a lot more wash and balanced stick definition

hey guys im looking for a crash or entire series that i can use for rock, but i want warmth and relativly quick decay because i enjoy playing funk, jazz and latin styles too. im thinking bout A's or A customs

[QUOTE=Murd_666]thin A crash has more attack, and as rides are usually pingy when you combine the both you get something like a ride but with a lot more wash and balanced stick definition[/QUOTE]

i have a 16" crash and a 20" ride, would it be a better idea to got a 18" crash or a 18" crah/ride?

if you already have a ride, than go for then 18" crash

ok thanks

[QUOTE]i have a 16" crash and a 20" ride, would it be a better idea to got a 18" crash or a 18" crah/ride?[/QUOTE]

what cymbals do you have already? if your just on zbt's or B8's or something then i would suggest that you replace those first, then worry about getting a second crash

^ya^or you'll regret it, more cymbals<better cymbals

[QUOTE=an_original_name]what cymbals do you have already? if your just on zbt's or B8's or something then i would suggest that you replace those first, then worry about getting a second crash[/QUOTE]

my crash is Sabian Pro and my Ride is a Stagg, but i really like the sound they both give so i dont want to replace them


also i have had second thoughts about the 18" crash, would getting a second 16" but a paiste 502 rather than a sabian be a good idea? (is there much difference in the sound?)

I don't Really think so... but I haven't Heard a paiste 502 and besides it not the brand that determins the sound, It's the cymbals itself and how it's made...

yeah, i dont really want to get another sabian crash incase they sound to similar

i was just thinkin that since they are different brands/companies they would just have a different sound

hm...i will have to think about it

just remember that EVERY cymbals are different. Sabian, ziljian and paiste got over 100 (??) different cymbals. you can be sure that you will not take a cymbal that will sound like another.

even if you pick the same model and size...it WILL NOT sound the same as the other.

[QUOTE=breakster]hey guys im looking for a crash or entire series that i can use for rock, but i want warmth and relativly quick decay because i enjoy playing funk, jazz and latin styles too. im thinking bout A's or A customs[/QUOTE]

A's can be used for pretty much anything, but for the styles you described I'd say K Customs would be your best bet. Be warned, they're expensive but worth it.

i'd reccomend the HHX line from Sabian, but like those K Customs, they arent cheap (they are cheaper than the K customs though)

im looking to buy a second crash. A's a pretty tough to get hold of rouynd here but its do-able but A customs are pretty abundant. I want a low tone. which out of the A or A custom models would suit this best?
thanks.

i'd say the regular A's are better for a lower tone...the bigger the better. maybe a 19" Medium-thin Crash

[QUOTE=The Dropper]A's can be used for pretty much anything, but for the styles you described I'd say K Customs would be your best bet. Be warned, they're expensive but worth it.[/QUOTE]
thanks, was looking at k's today. think i might get a k custom session ride. and just mix and match the rest.

thanks bobby jonny

i'm thinking of getting a couple cheap splashes, probably by stagg or UFIP, but i don't know much about either brand. i'm looking for real punchy, kinda glassy splashes, and i was wondering if anybody could recommend a specific series or a specific cymbal by either of these brands, any advice is appreciated. thanks

i dont know anything about stagg or UFIP, but i think an A custom 10" splash fits that description pretty well.

for punk rock, pop rock, wich crash is better?

AAXplosion 17'' crash

or

AAX Stage 18'' crash

I tried some and these are the two that I liked the more

^ I think they would both do nicely, though I would say the Stage crash as it would be slightly more full bodied and stronger.

^^^ i duno. i have a 16" AAXplosion crash and its got alot of body to it.

i'd go with the stage...better for forceful playing. the AAXplosion is a bit too fast and punchy.

I know this must be asked alot but..........
 

hey whats a cheap crash and a cheap ride but both sound good for the money im looking to pay around 100 for each thanks

What kind of sound do you want?

wat would the K constinople med low ride, K dark crash thin and A zildjian & cle vinatge crash be compared to for sabian?