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hollyhox 06-13-2004 02:40 AM

thats super, now i gotta find somewhere to practice hahaha

Underoath 06-14-2004 01:21 AM

Norma Jean, how in the hell can I scream like this guy? I used to try all the time but still can not come close. I know he uses some distortion on his voice but if you guys have any ideas on how to scream like him...Please tell me! Thanks ^_^

tr0n 06-21-2004 12:04 AM

I have heard two different people talk about two vocalists excellent at screaming and nobody really seemed to acknowledge them. Tommy Rogers of Between The Buried and Me has such a dynamic array of screams that it's amazing to hear him--especially on their self-titled album. The other vocalist mentioned earlier is M. Shadows who is the vocalist of Avenged Sevenfold. His scream(s) are so powerful and "hardcore" sounding that nobody that I've heard could come even close to reproducing what he does with his voice. I just thought that they should both be acknowledged. Be sure and give em a listen to see what I'm talking about. Yes, I did register just to make this single post. I enjoyed reading this thread a lot. Thanks to everyone who contributed to it.

Poi 06-23-2004 01:41 AM

hey jay
 
Hey jay, I've been reading your replies and it seems to me you know your sh¡t. I am currently seeing a vocal coach but hes away in new york (broadway singer). I guess I have a good singing voice, I can say I have a voice similar range wise to Ace from The Early November up to Kenny from The Starting Line and some stuff by Davey Havok from AFI. I have a few questions for you that maybe you can help with.

1. I'm mixing my chest voice w/ falsetto, but going up towards notes that I cant reach with simply my chest voice I start to strain, neck tenses and I kind of tilt to the right. If I try to slide into falsetto from my chest it sounds almost opera like and quite pússy lol. What is a good excercise to add weight to my falsetto. I do vocal excercises every morning and evening in my car and and practicing on flexing that muscle (forgot the name) but it seems to be right under my tongue, on the underside of my face. Just wondering what else I could do.

2. I have absolutely no scream at all. I've tried but my throat started to kill so I stopped. I can scream where theres absolutely no pain and its fun, but I sound like a chick or Justin Hawkin's range from The Darkness. Trying the falsetto scream its way to high pitched, and I can't seem to bring it down.

3. For the longest time i've been doing what I call "sirens" where i basically make a sound very high up and gradually bring it down from falsetto to chest without making breaks. I've basically passed one break but the lower break, i think it might be a low G, continues to break. I try vocal frying and done what my vocal coach says but I can't get it. He says it comes with time and its one thing thats taking longer for me to get. Any help?

4. I do some chord stretching excercises but I was wondering if you have any more that I could possibly do.

Thank's a lot Jay or whoever else would like to reply to this. By the way Jay, the name of your band would be ______. I'd really like to check it out. Thanks. :thumb:

Harmonisation 06-23-2004 12:48 PM

poi > I aint heard from Jay in adges. So dont expect a reply back too quick. But opefuli he will be back soon!!

Understanding 06-28-2004 07:15 PM

[QUOTE=Underoath]Norma Jean, how in the hell can I scream like this guy? I used to try all the time but still can not come close. I know he uses some distortion on his voice but if you guys have any ideas on how to scream like him...Please tell me! Thanks ^_^[/QUOTE]


if i didn't know any better, there seems to be a clipping in his mic. Josh must've screamed really loud into that thing.


I came home from a band practice a while ago, and we tried to make a song from scratch. While the results are good, I screamed throughout the whole song, like, extensivly. And when i left, my throat was a little sore (my voice was fine, but my falsetto seemed hoarse). I want to replicate my scream so i don't muck up my voice box. But i also want to know if i can strenghten my voice to handle it a little more.

Understanding 06-28-2004 07:17 PM

also, i heard from a friend a guy from a hardcore band lost his voice (i'm not sure what band, or if it was permanent.

shadedlife 06-28-2004 10:16 PM

i tried some growling today. recorded a song for fun, then recorded the vocals a couple days later. put a little bit of distortion on it, and a slight bit of reverb. [url]www.soundclick.com/shagra[/url] (decapitated by a ceiling fan)
am i doing it right/wrong? my voice didn't hurt afterwards, but after a couple takes, my throat felt slightly itchy while growling.

Metallicadrummer 06-29-2004 08:36 AM

Okay, i know this guy isn't well known for screaming, but i want to get somewhere near james hetfields scream...he screams most on kill 'em all, and theres one song in particular i just want to be able to scream like...Phantom Lord...

the bit at the end where he screams "Fall to your knee's!! Bow down to the Phantom Lord!!!"

i don't even klnow if this is what you would technically call a scream, but this was the most suited thread i could find...thanks :D

osirisblind 07-04-2004 12:18 AM

The Refused anyone? Pointers on how to scream in a similar way? Thanks..

Your Tourniquet 07-05-2004 10:15 AM

I have one problem... my falsetto, like Matthew Bellamy, is extremely high pitched o_o

Understanding 07-07-2004 04:03 PM

[QUOTE=osirisblind]The Refused anyone? Pointers on how to scream in a similar way? Thanks..[/QUOTE]


my god, to get a scream like that...

you have to be awesome :thumb:

osirisblind 07-12-2004 12:08 AM

[QUOTE=Understanding]my god, to get a scream like that...

you have to be awesome :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Haha I'm guessing this is sarcastic.. sorry it's kinda hard to tell on here..
But come on whats wrong with my question?

Thrice1700 07-12-2004 08:29 PM

Little Problem
 
Ok, well I tried your techniques...and I was screaming a bit today and my throat hurts. I don't know if my vocal chords hurt or if my muscles hurt. How can u tell which one hurts?

Thanx million

EcolliJK 07-13-2004 03:19 AM

*reminder: be carefull with screaming. Don't go scream your bumbum off immidiatly.
Just build it up.
@Thrice try to use water with honey to protect your throat

Thrice1700 07-13-2004 11:32 AM

[QUOTE=EcolliJK]
@Thrice try to use water with honey to protect your throat[/QUOTE]

How does honey help protect your throut....just curious!

thanx

EcolliJK 07-13-2004 12:47 PM

you get like an extra layer in your throat

Thrice1700 07-13-2004 04:38 PM

that's good
 
[QUOTE=EcolliJK]you get like an extra layer in your throat[/QUOTE]

Oh, well that's awsome! Does it affect your scream though? Thanx man...I'll have to go and buy some then!

Thanx

mia913 07-13-2004 05:09 PM

can ne beginners post a link of themselves screamin? preferably like girls or high pitched guys, thanx

shadedlife 07-14-2004 07:04 PM

[url]www.soundclick.com/shagra[/url]. I'm a beginner. I had a few clips of just screaming, but I took them down... add me msn if you want me to send you the files. "decapitated by a ceiling fan" has lower screaming with a few high parts, and "atmospheric conspiracy" has a small section with a bit of high screaming. tell me what you think.

thefitsrule 07-15-2004 12:48 AM

Have you guys heard henry rollins scream in the my war black flag album? I want to scream like that..

pyrophnx 07-16-2004 03:09 PM

hey guys...ive tryed all the techniques posted here...but i still irritate my throat...but it doesnt when i use honey...so can i just use honey all the time..or is that bad?

shadedlife 07-16-2004 08:13 PM

I doubt it's bad. If you're using these techniques, and you're still irritating your throat, then you're probably not doing them right.

xXSobbingAlwaysXx 07-18-2004 12:14 AM

Hey, does anyone know how to scream like (I dunno the name) Story of the Year or any "scremo" type of scream? I can do the low ones easily but I can't get that high pitched type of scream...I tried today and could but almost threw up afterwards, so I figured I wasn't doing it right. I need to know because a band I just joined wants me to scream like that while I play, so, any help would be thanked.

eski 07-18-2004 02:46 AM

Please look at the screaming topics before posting these questions, they have been discussed and answered many times. The other screaming thread shows how to scream in that screamo style in the first post i believe...

jackblack 07-18-2004 05:44 PM

the half-bred voice
 
erm...anyone heard of Our Lady Peace, specifically Automatic Flowers...i don't think it's screaming per se...but after the second chorus, Raine does a sort of frantic scream, similar to the choruses of 'Sad But True' or 'Enter Sandman' or the verses of 'The Unforgiven' by Metallica...what would that be considered, and how would a 15-year-old vowel-and-tone-obsessed baritone with a relatively mature voice go about trying to imitate it? if anyone can get back to me, thanks, if not, 's all good, i'll try it out and see what i can do...

Also, i have a problem with my falcetto voice...i have been working on covering, so i can make my falcetto sound like chest voice and put lots of strength behind it, but can wouldn't screaming in half-chest-half-falcetto voice be rather dangerous?

xXSobbingAlwaysXx 07-19-2004 12:28 AM

[QUOTE=eski]Please look at the screaming topics before posting these questions, they have been discussed and answered many times. The other screaming thread shows how to scream in that screamo style in the first post i believe...[/QUOTE]
Sorry about that, I just signed into this thing and haven't read everything completely, I'll be sure to be more attentive to what people say

shadedlife 07-19-2004 06:50 PM

jackblack - i listened to it today. he's just singing loudly. if you're a baritone, then i doubt you'll be able to imitate it.

jackblack 07-19-2004 06:59 PM

erm...ok, then, thanks!!! I'm not a baritone, per se, though...i have a range that extends both into mid-bass and mid-tenor, which averages out as a baritone in choir...just tried it and i managed to belt it...barely...with effort, i think i can manage it...

anyway, thanks!!!

whispercore23 07-20-2004 12:59 AM

Ok, I dont know how long this thread has been going but for anyone who knows ive been using more or less the technique mentioned in the first post and I find that afterward my singing voice is way shoddy and for days I lose alot in my range for my singing voice. Can anyone tell me whats up with this

EcolliJK 07-20-2004 11:14 AM

could be multiple things
..you scream to much
..you're not using the technique right
..you don't drink enough water
..you didn't warmed up before singing
etc.
just make sure you use your voice right.
Don't overdo it.

SubsonicWax 07-20-2004 10:53 PM

So someone help me get this straight? Your falsetto voice is like how you talk when you close your throat slightly to "fake wheeze." Im not good at describing what I think it is... but bear with me. Its sort of like talking/ screaming in that fake wheeze sort of tightness in your throat? Like when your quetly singing a screaming song to yourself and you sort of whisper the scream in the back of your throat? This is what I think you mean by falsetto but please PLEASE correct me if Im wrong.

Teh1337Darklink 07-21-2004 06:37 PM

Sorry to burst your bubble, but your wrong :(

Your falsetto is that thing at the back of your throat.. hmm indeed it is hard to explain how to use it. you know how you can hit those high notes , the ones that girls can do except you can do it as well but not with alot of power? (refer to the first post, it explains better what im talking about) but you use that when you scream. Although i havent learned how to do that kind of scream, im still working on it. If you want to know how to do screams like slipknot/korn, i can do those, and can probably teach you how.

Katana 07-21-2004 09:01 PM

You use falsetto to scream? I use falsetto to make fun of my female friends, and since that's often, I'm good at it... I can sing most anything in falsetto.

whispercore23 07-22-2004 12:41 AM

[QUOTE=SubsonicWax]So someone help me get this straight? Your falsetto voice is like how you talk when you close your throat slightly to "fake wheeze." Im not good at describing what I think it is... but bear with me. Its sort of like talking/ screaming in that fake wheeze sort of tightness in your throat? Like when your quetly singing a screaming song to yourself and you sort of whisper the scream in the back of your throat? This is what I think you mean by falsetto but please PLEASE correct me if Im wrong.[/QUOTE]

falsetto is like when you make your voice really high like your balls havent dropped, like if you ever impersonate a little brother or firls your probably using your falsetto voice

whispercore23 07-22-2004 12:42 AM

[QUOTE=EcolliJK]could be multiple things
..you scream to much
..you're not using the technique right
..you don't drink enough water
..you didn't warmed up before singing
etc.
just make sure you use your voice right.
Don't overdo it.[/QUOTE]

thanks alot bud

ktululu 07-23-2004 02:34 PM

Ok guys i've never tried growling or screaming seriously before but could someone tell me how to growl/scream like the black metal singers e.g. Alexi Laiho from Children of Bodom. Actually it is more of a screech, but anyway, some help would be appreciated :thumb: . Thanks in advance.

bigskinny2006 07-24-2004 11:19 AM

What about the Scream in Doomsday Jesus By Black Label Society, i love that scream. I've tried some things from the first post, but dont know if i should use my falsetto or my diaphram. I think i kind of need to use both. But any help would help me out.

TheUsedRules 07-30-2004 04:10 PM

This thread has been pretty helpfull but its easier said than done... everytime I go to scream it gets stuck! its like theres a closed door in my troat and the scream wont get out, it just gets stuck!!!!! It pisses me off... I can scream sometimes but mostly that happens and it sucks, help?

Merkaba 07-31-2004 01:31 AM

[QUOTE=TheUsedRules]This thread has been pretty helpfull but its easier said than done... everytime I go to scream it gets stuck! its like theres a closed door in my troat and the scream wont get out, it just gets stuck!!!!! It pisses me off... I can scream sometimes but mostly that happens and it sucks, help?[/QUOTE]

Read my replies on this post

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214130[/url]

its active in the jam session, the subject is something like "how do i scream, there are no singing forums..."


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